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As of today that’s a non-issue, but I get what you mean. I’m one of those people who parents try to convince kids are great, and I still just don’t like them.
Kids are the best thing you can do

I don’t like other peoples kids either.

But when they’re your kids. It’s different then.



Took a big leap. Like my dog didn’t like other ppls dogs.
 
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Well we could vote for political parties that spend less on military, raise taxes instead of cutting them to offset the deficit spending, greater spending on social services/education/healthcare, but we don't because we're selfish and it's all commie talk to us, so enjoy the videos of bombs dropping on sand people.
What is this gibberish
Raise taxes to pay off debt then you say spend more on socialist programs ?
Are you retarded. Schools have nothing to do with spending and everything to do with the parasitical teachers unions making sure we never have voucher programs. Look up how much Maryland taxpayers pay to educate Baltimore children. And their illiteracy rates. Moneys got nothing to do with it



And we did vote for the tea party. Then both sides of the organized crime oligarchy use the power of the soup agencies to crush it
 
I would have preferred that we stayed out of this one, now I will at least hold out hope that we aren’t committing anything more than bombing nuke sites.

No troops, no regime change, no nation building bullshit.
My view exactly. I didn't want this shit, even though I can see it's necessity. Now that we stepped in it, I hope we don't fall in it, and we can just clean it off our boot before we get on the porch.
 
My view exactly. I didn't want this shit, even though I can see it's necessity. Now that we stepped in it, I hope we don't fall in it, and we can just clean it off our boot before we get on the porch.
Yes absolutely no boots on the ground for sure. No regime changes. I bet Lindsey grahams pussy is so wet right now. Fucking asshole has never seen a country he doesn’t want to bomb.
 
Trump is trying to get those numbers up for.........next time? I hear that selling out completely is a good way to make your opponents like you.

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Woah… he gained 15 percent in the Jewish community over past Republicans!

Thats some strong numbers!!

Don’t let the fake news tilted polls fool you… his popularity is at record high with Red Sea Pedestrians!!!

Sirhr
 
Part of me: Iran was on the way to nuke capability, and would have erased Israel.
The other part of me: China has nukes, Russia has nukes, Saudi has nukes (ahem) - any one of them could have already given Iran the capability and Iran could have already erased Israel.

The real part of me - How many red pills do I need to take before I finally wake up?
 
Didn’t Obama kill a 16yo American?

He droned a few Americans. Including a minor. The left thought it was all dreamy.



But droning an America minor was definitely pushing the bounds of due process, though they claimed it was an accident. He was hit days after his AlQaeda leader father.

Not that I shed any tears for the little wizard. But American born shitbags are supposed to get different due process from foreign born shitbags.

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I understand why Israel felt they had to attack Iran as an existential threat.

I understand why taking this moment in time, with Iranian capabilities severely degraded, to take their nuclear facilities & program off the table would be pragmatic.

I don't have to like getting involved in a fight somebody else started and, to this point, wasn't ours.

I can only imagine all the naval & air power surged to the region in the last week is to prevent Iran from closing the Strait of Hormuz and ensure CENTCOM assets are as protected as possible.
Just stop it . FAR too rational a post for the Pit.
 
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The other part of me: China has nukes, Russia has nukes, Saudi has nukes (ahem) - any one of them could have already given Iran the capability
None of them want them to have it either.

Only interest they have is the energy they sit on, no one gives a fuck about supporting their religious fundamentalist war. The Chinese literally have muslim re education work camps.

While I personally would have liked to sat back and let Israel do this, thats not what happened.

Grand scheme, Fuck Carter for letting Iran cause over 40 years of chaso in the middle east. Had he not been a little bitch and squashed the up rising, the hell that has been the middle east would have never happened.
 
Yes absolutely no boots on the ground for sure. No regime changes. I bet Lindsey grahams pussy is so wet right now. Fucking asshole has never seen a country he doesn’t want to bomb.

I certainly get "No Boots on the ground." As for Regime Change, are you saying that there should be no Regime change at all, or that the USA should not be "in charge/responsible" for affecting that regime change? Point being, if the regime doesn't change, somehow, those same leaders will just start their nuclear campaign over again. We'll be doing this again and again. Each time we destroy it, they'll rebuild it. I think the regime needs to change, but we in the US don't have to be the ones doing it. It should be the Iranian people, themselves.
 
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Year 33 of bombing the middle east. Ya. It'll work this time.

We are led by fucking morons.

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A person at this point should be able to look back and ask why is it that presidents who are opposed to each other wind up in the same places to fight wars. What are the fundamental aspects of the USG that require preservation through kinetic action in a shithole? What is the overriding factor that causes uniparty agreement on war?
 
Why enrich uranium to 60% when it has no reason for "peaceful purposes"?
Therein lies the issue IMO.

There are *very few* civil reasons to enrich uranium above 60%, and practically all of those (medical, industry, etc.) require tiny amounts that can be obtained from elsewhere. Instead, Iran had some above 80% and more than a hundred kilograms above 60%. Given that's an expensive and risky endeavor for "because I can so fuck you that's why", one can reasonably deduce the reason behind it.
 
But that’s my question: where is the documentation from the iaea or some such regarding this?
It was literally released days before Israel attacked, around the time IAEA announced that Iran was in breach of their nonproliferation obligations.


 
I certainly get "No Boots on the ground." As for Regime Change, are you saying that there should be no Regime change at all, or that the USA should not be "in charge/responsible" for affecting that regime change? Point being, if the regime doesn't change, somehow, those same leaders will just start their nuclear campaign over again. We'll be doing this again and again. Each time we destroy it, they'll rebuild it. I think the regime needs to change, but we in the US don't have to be the ones doing it. It should be the Iranian people, themselves.
I’m saying we have a poor history of being involved I regime change including in Iran. Yes I believe there should be a change but it shouldn’t be a western puppet. Let the Iranian people get the regime they want.
 
It was literally released days before Israel attacked, around the time IAEA announced that Iran was in breach of their nonproliferation obligations.


“The IAEA report only speaks about “particles,” suggesting that Iran isn’t building a stockpile of uranium enriched above 60% — the level it has been enriching at for some time.” From the AP.

60% is an average, you will have various degrees of purity along both sides of a Pareto distribution, so particles at 83+% would be expected.

My point is that the data doesn’t totally match up to the narrative. That article didn’t help.
 
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I certainly get "No Boots on the ground." As for Regime Change, are you saying that there should be no Regime change at all, or that the USA should not be "in charge/responsible" for affecting that regime change? Point being, if the regime doesn't change, somehow, those same leaders will just start their nuclear campaign over again. We'll be doing this again and again. Each time we destroy it, they'll rebuild it. I think the regime needs to change, but we in the US don't have to be the ones doing it. It should be the Iranian people, themselves.

Who replaces a regime in Iran once the current one is taken out? Who fills that vacuum, as their country is being bombed by hostile nations?

Is any new regime expected to be more friendly to us under those circumstances?
 
But that’s my question: where is the documentation from the iaea or some such regarding this? And how is it that they have been weeks away from getting this 60% to weapons grade for two decades?


They talk out both sides of their mouths.

I realize that this is not "proof" you seek.

Regardless if they had it or not, we just destroyed their ability to even threaten it.
 
So by this attacks same logic we should be bombing North Korea right now.

They have nukes.

Ballisitic Missiles that can reach multiple times further than Iran.

And they chant death to America daily.

So...lets start a 5th war. Based on principle.
No its not the same thing, also Korea is not sitting on or next to 1/4 of the worlds energy supply. They are in check up there.

Not all problems require the same solution.
 
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No its not the same thing, also Korea is not sitting on or next to 1/4 of the worlds energy supply. They are in check up there.

Not all problems require the same solution.


And yet we've been applying the same solution in the middle east since 1992.

And here we are.

Further broke. And still bombing.
 
No its not the same thing, also Korea is not sitting on or next to 1/4 of the worlds energy supply. They are in check up there.

Not all problems require the same solution.
I just heard a record scratch.

So you a saying that the reason we are going into Iran under the excuse of protecting Israel is to secure the oil fields? That would mean that solar and wind are shit renewables and we actually DO require oil. And that carbon credits require the use of fossil fuels to create revenue. That would also tie neatly fit with the plans for the canal through Gaza that has been floated for some time now.

This whole thing can’t be just about money can it?
 
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Since 1984 the propaganda has been they are X months or years away from getting a bomb.

Yesterday's events will do nothing but guarantee now they will pursue a bomb.
Wrong again.

Yesterdays actions will keep them from achieving their goals of building a nuke they have been pursuing since the 80's.
And yet we've been applying the same solution in the middle east since 1992.

And here we are.

Further broke. And still bombing.
I am not broke, I got a roof over my head, food in my belly, A/C keeping me cool.

If you want broke check out central Africa.

Bombs will never stop falling, until we invent a better way. Get over it.
 
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I just heard a record scratch.

So you a saying that the reason we are going into Iran under the excuse of protecting Israel is to secure the oil fields? That would mean that solar and wind are shit renewables and we actually DO require oil. And that carbon credits require the use of fossil fuels to create revenue. That would also tie neatly out with the plans for the canal through Gaza that has been floated for some time now.

This whole thing can be just about money can it?
No thats what you are saying.

What I am saying is 1/4 of the worlds energy supply comes from that region. And ain't no fucking way, the cats that run the show are going to back off of it. Any one who wants to Fuck around and threaten it, is going to find out.

Thats the way things are. Like it or not.
 
Wrong again.

Yesterdays actions will keep them from achieving their goals of building a nuke they have been pursuing since the 80's.

For how long? A year? A few? So we just continue to bomb them each time Israel tells us they are close?

Sounds retarded and right on brand for our foreign policy.

I am not broke, I got a roof over my head, food in my belly, A/C keeping me cool.

If you want broke check out central Africa.


I was referring to our national debt.

Bombs will never stop falling, until when invent a better way. Get over it.

Warhawk gonna warhawk.
 
For how long? A year? A few? So we just continue to bomb them each time Israel tells us they are close?

Sounds retarded and right on brand for our foreign policy.
Whats your suggestion, go french and runaway?

I was referring to our national debt.
Then stop financing shit you can't afford.

Warhawk gonna warhawk.
What to you tell a woman with one black eye?
 
I’ll be honest I’m split on this. The patriot and the American in me has a Boner for a successful attack and a successful mission and showing our dominance. The other side of me is like do we really need another war?
Sums up my feelings as well. Over the past couple days, Netanyahu has been openly saying Israel did not need our intervention and they had pans for taking down the underground reactors without our help. I think we should have just let Israel continue to pound Iran. They had full air superiority over Iran. The regime is in shambles, it was only a matter of time before the Iranian people took advantage of that situation and effected their own regime change. Now, there is a real possibility that the regime just gained a lot more support with the Iranian people. It is what it is now I guess. All it will take is one successful retaliatory strike by Iran on US assets and the MIC will have their excuse to put American boots on the ground.
 
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