Thats one of them for sure. North Korea doesnt either. And Cuba perhaps.
And, cough cough, ahem, guess what family was absolutely instrumental in pressuring the Brits into giving them the land they stole...Those sweet little Rothschilds.
Iran go boom
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And, cough cough, ahem, guess what family was absolutely instrumental in pressuring the Brits into giving them the land they stole...Those sweet little Rothschilds.
the Iranian theocracy is awful. Islam is satanic. but Im sick of Israel's bullshit. we owe them nothing and we should give them nothing. all they do is scream how they are the ultimate eternal victim ......while ethnically cleansing everyone whose land they want to take, or who threatens their genocidal aspirations. fuck that. this country needs less Pat Robertson Christians and more Ferdinand and Isabella Christians, and then we can sort out who is for us and who is against us.
They just need to hit a few ships for insurance companies to shitcan the route.
No, this one doesn't fuck pigeons out of spite, hence the defiantly.
The holes are the penetration part, the explosion is deep underground.
Beat me to it. The Islamists, like Democrats, will deny the reality you can see right in front of you til their last breath. Lying is their sustenance. “We sustained no damage”, equivalent to “Men can get pregnant.”
Anyone have any guesses what Israel will want next from us?
Whole shit show seems to have been manipulated to kick off by Palantir
Donnie is is being played buying Palantir tools to surveil US citizens. We will see predictive AI used to bust down your door without someone calling in a SWATing in matter of years if not months.
The AI That Triggered a War: How Palantir and the IAEA Fueled Israel’s Strike on Iran
A $50M software built for counterinsurgency now steers nuclear diplomacy... and may have lit the fuse for a regional war.ddgeopolitics.substack.com
Sure you can be sceptical , but just a taught for the hamster between your ears.
Given the history of Trump-Iran kabuki theatre, kung-fu air fighting .One has to consider the possibility that strike was mostly a preformative act with little to no effect on a nuclear program that migh not exist .
Given that strikes are not ongoing and repetitive, i would almost bet money its a performative action to get warhawks and foreign parasite running US to went some pressure.
Frodow is 90m deep at shallow end at least 500m deep at where centrifuges are strikes look like they are on the hill side so thick end , Those things did not come even remotely close to penetrate it,
There are basic physics that do not favor bunker busters at all.GBU-57 A/B is believed to be able to penetrate about 200 feet (61 meters) if the surface hit is perpedicular to the strike ,so would need to be capable of 800-900% more than it is , bunker buster track record are poor they always underpreformed, or rather they have been fraudulently advertised , if they used them on the shallow entrances even there efficacy would be marginal ,dropin them on sloped hillside drasticaly cuts already marginal penetration ..Assuming Iran's engineers took some basic precautions ,blast impulse is relatively easy to diffuse to levels where there will be no damage
A 45 degree turn in tunnels diffuse a blast wave by 50%. 4 x 45 degree turns will reduce blast pressure to 6.25% Add a 45 degree stairway going downwards and the blast is 3.125% at the end of that stairway . And we are not even talking any blast doors or vents, just tunnel geometry.
To make up for such a loss of pressure, the weight of the explosives has go up exponentialy for each 45 degree turn in the tunnel, you quickly run out of payload capacty of a B2 .Limited capability of GBU-57 would have US runing multiple strikes over multiple days to have a chance of getting trough the bed rock.
Like said odds of GBU57 working at FORDOW are next to nothing.
Grain of salt but US-Iran and Iran-US actions have for many years been of extremely preformative in nature ,trying real hard to avoid casualties and retaliation spiraling into a shooting war while sating the warmongers.
Like said its hard to know too many impulsive turns and some smoke and mirrors in US- international affairs these days.
Who knows
''BIG: High-ranking Iranian source tells @amwajmedia that Trump team gave advance notice of bombings of nuclear sites and insisted they're intended as "one-off". Signs of Trump seeking repeat of Jan 2020 (Soleimani killing=>symbolic Iranian retaliation).''
It is a shame our military experts and intelligence agencies do not have the deep understanding of the subject matter that you do. Are you available for consult to explain it to them?
Illegal? Who gets to say what is “legal” for another country? Every country spies on every other country…
Do you think that Iran has been holding back? Israel seems to be doing OK so far.
They’ve spent trillions trying to acquire them. If they had them, they’d use them. They don’t care about retaliation. The mullahs are on a religious quest.
What a pithy and brilliant retort… ad hominem, much?
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I believe attacking foreign countries without explicit direction from Congress is unconstitutional.
I could be wrong.
Well, I meant what does the Constitution actually say about it? It grants Congress the sole power to declare war, but an attack is not a declaration of war. The last time Congress actually declared war was in WWII. A lot of serious war has happened since then with no declaration from Congress. The War Powers Act of 1973 states the President is required to inform Congress of any commitment of troops to a military action (attack, etc) within 48 hrs, and to remove them within 60 days if Congress doesn't authorize it by that time. In this instance, they were notified within a couple of hours, and the troops were already withdrawn.
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The people we put heavy sanctions on don’t trade in US dollars so they come up with other methods.
Libya 1986
Iraq 1990
Iran1979
Which is long before nutters starter making up stories about the petro dollar
Sanctions are a massive fuck yous, economic warfare, makes it harder for them to conduct foreign trade with US global partners. Many times this over the long run leads to fighting and potentially wars, as they tend to struggle.
None of these countries are economic powerhouses, most get fucked after decades of being shunned by society
Jews are generally higher educated than hillbillies, rednecks, and racist cops/excops.
Edit- and I have never met a Jewish Cop.
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Just out of curiosity, are the aircraft themselves sufficiently classified that we couldn't sell one to the Israelis? Obviously, their payloads are (Bunker Busters, etc.) so, if we ever did it, we'd sell only the aircraft without the payload....
The US is the only country flying the B2 and the F22, and will be the only country flying the B21.
It wouldn't be prudent to sell your VERY best hardware to other countries, even allies...especially when it comes to low observable, nuclear-capable, ADS-penetrating strategic bombers.
Oh lordy. There was the Candece Owens I know. If it was just audio I would have though it was AOC. 
Or brick layer or plumber or any other actual productive job.
They are above that
Obama birth certificate, Las Vegas shooting, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Russia collusion hoax, impeachment one and two, cocaine in the white house, assassination attempt in Butler, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Jan 6, Epstein suicide, JFK and a hundred others all brought to you by the alphabet agencies then propegated by the Pravda media.
Did Iran really have weapons grade material? Did we actually hit the real targets? Is what they are saying actually true?
I don't trust a single thing that comes from the government.
All the world is a stage.
Did Iran really have weapons grade material? Did we actually hit the real targets? Is what they are saying actually true?
I don't trust a single thing that comes from the government.
All the world is a stage.
Is there an actual list somewhere
Need to add
Nashville RV bombing
Ca fires
Hawaii fires
Maybe a place for honorable mentions like when that sub lit a missile off our west coast
The government schools have been very successful with brainwashingThis has to be true....
Add in “melting pot “ and all people are the same no genetic difference just cultural differences to that list of successful lies
Ceasefire No Longer Valid': Yemeni Houthis Launch Military Action Against US Ships and Vessels in Red Sea in Response to Iran Attack
The comment you dipshit. Not your atisemtic propagandaizing. I don't doubt or care that the big bad jew called me a mean name. Seems most races have words for other races.....
Nord Stream Pipeline, agent Orange, the water on Camp Lejeune, anthrax vax,
I have not searched for a list but there's enough in my memory to fill a page or two.
We still have troops on the ground in Syria. Syria is a sovereign nation. US invaded Syria without a declared war on Syria - using some kind of stretch logic on GWOT. Where was or is the outrage?
Let's, for the sake of discussion, take classification out of the mix.
I spent close to 17 years of my USAF career in the B-1B program.
The logistics of giving them an airframe or two isn't as simple as buying or renting a car for a trip.
There is a giant footprint of training, support and maintenance that has to be accounted for.
You don't just send a couple of guys over with the aircraft and tell the RSPs to have fun and try not to break it.
The maintenance support alone is huge with the number of crew chiefs, avionics specialists, powerplant, hydraulics, electrical, fuel systems, egress systems, flight control, and a host of other specialized maintainers.
Then you get to add in ground support equipment, fuel delivery, in hangar maintenance, phase inspections, depot level maintenance too.
Oh, I forgot, the entire purpose of them borrowing a couple of Bones is Armament.
Now you need equipment, load crews, armament storage and delivery.
Did I even touch on spare parts?
Nope. That's an entirely new group of people, storage, delivery and logistics.
On top of all of that, the support equipment and personnel have to have a place to work, eat and sleep (yes, in that order).
Bomber aircraft don't fit into fighter ground operations and ground space.
If you have any doubt about that, ask the folks at NAS Fallon.
Lastly, and most important are the actual personnel responsible for flying and maintaining the aircraft.
The time it takes to qualify a pilot, co-pilot, OSO and DSO aren't quick.
Qualifying maintainers takes even longer. On most airframes, qualification from the trainee level to basic qualification is 12-15 months. On the Bone it was 18-20 months. And that wasn't due to a lack of a good training program.
Tech schools, designed to get the new recruit to a trainee level are anywhere from 2 months to 11 months. That also has to be factored in.
Let's not even factor in Technician level (or the old Master Technician) levels of understanding and qualification.
Who would be responsible for their initial and upgrade training? The US?
So I ask: if we handed over a couple of Bones to them, how long do you think it would take to get them up and going?
I suppose we'd also have to build the big bunker buster bombs for them...
Might be hard to find some here, although if one inquired into the upbringing and religious backgrounds of ALL brick layers and plumbers in the US you might find a few. Bet you could in Israel.
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