To be fair, I think he means it's a total wasteland.
Oh, and fuck Ukraine. They aren't winning shit except an award for the most useless deaths in recent history.
Is Russia done pretending?
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Oh, and fuck Ukraine. They aren't winning shit except an award for the most useless deaths in recent history.
Looks like another cauldron potentially being set up for Pokrovsk.
Dancing around the tree is going to stop at some point, and some are going to say,... Here's your sign!
Front line drone warfare reminds me of trench warfare with machine guns in the beginning of WW1. What will bust open the present stalemate like tanks in the teens and air power in the 40’s? Does it jump straight to canned sunshine and then WWIV with fixed bayonets?
If #s of dead on either side that i hear are true,then death rates are = to ww1. once the rate of killings becomes known,you have to wonder about volunteering for mil in any country. what i hear about missile and drone attacks sounds like the density of Russ arty in ww2. not very survivable for very long.
I've heard that before... Don't know what WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will almost certainly be fought with sticks and stones.
So, Trump wanted to end the war, but the little faggot is refusing. Too much grift. Putin is refusing because his demands won't be met.
All Trump has left is to try to scare Putin with escalation of support for Ukraine. That is not a winning move.
All Trump has left is to try to scare Putin with escalation of support for Ukraine. That is not a winning move.
There is no winning move here, that was by design before the game started. There is but one conclusion,...
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Top-secret US spy jet spotted circling Russia amid mounting WW3 fears
A US Air Force spy plane was spotted repeatedly circling over Russian airspace amid escalating tensions with Moscow, raising fears of a potential flashpoint that could ignite a third world war.
as i said in the last deleted thread on this topic, putin will continue unless the "cost" of continuing is untenable.
he is committed to "liberating" the remaining portions of the mostly russian speaking regions that wanted autonomy from ukraine.
i see no indication that zelensky is willing to concede any territory, so i don't see peace on the horizon.
unfortunately, zelensky doesn't seem to have to worry about the "cost", since somebody else is footing the bill.
/and i still think it is the natural resources that they are really fighting over.
I hear you, but for comparison:
if the jihadists didnt want the mosques blown up, they shouldnt have stored weapons in them.
if the british didnt want the Lusitania sunk, they should not have transported munitions in it.
if the Dills didn't want fighting in the cities, they should have withdrawn and fought in the open, because "you can't touch me, I'm on safe" has never worked in warfare.
and I do give the russians credit for being civilized. they are absolutely minimizing civilian casualties. They have not firebombed any cities like we did the last time we did the European tour...not to mention our whole Hiroshima/Nagasaki thing.....
and Eastern Europe has had a lot of practice with this stuff. it's not their first rodeo, so they shouldnt play dumb. going back to the mongols, there were two choices and possible repercussions every time an army showed up outside the walls. the Russians haven't done that. they've fed them afterwards and let them vote for God's sake.
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That's . . . not how it's going to go. The expendable populations of Europe aren't the illegals if you listen to what their leaders say.
Liberals will not send the illegals , they will send the legal males of their countries. Liberalism has no problem killing off or being the cause of the decline or elimination of the caucasian race due to white guilt and pure unadulterated stupidity.
Yeah if something big kicked off they'd send the white men first and foremost. They aren't sending any of their precious rapefugees to the frontlines.
A mule from the Russian "Boston Dynamics"
It's strange that this time there is no inscription "to Berlin"
Retards who are paid well for a post are something new.
Or maybe you work for free?
The first sign of a Russian bot or their follower is a cynical lie.
The second sign of a Russian bot or their follower is constant jerking off to the word "nuclear".
Mariupol
Donetsk region, coast of the Sea of Azov
Population in 2021: 431.9 thousand
Area: 166 sq. km
Most important objects: Ilyich and Azovstal steelworks, seaport
Scale of destruction: over 90%
Status: Occupied since May 2022. About 90 thousand local residents remain. Actively settled by Russians.
Bakhmut
Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 72.3 thousand people
Area: 41.6 sq. km
Most important objects: ARTWINERY (Artemivsk champagne wine factory)
Scale of destruction: 80%
Status: Under occupation since April 2023, although the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not officially announced their withdrawal from the city. Fighting continues around Bakhmut. There is no civilian population.
Irpin
Kyiv region
Population in 2021: 62.5 thousand people
Area: 110 sq. km
Most important objects: large-scale housing construction
Scale of destruction: 70%
Status: Liberated from the occupiers on March 28, 2022. Restoration underway.
Rubizhne
Severodonetsk district, Luhansk region
Population in 2021: 56.1 thousand people
Area: 34.1 sq. km
Most important objects: Rubizhne cardboard and packaging plant
Scale of destruction: 90%
Status: Occupied since May 2022. About 10 thousand residents remain in the city.
Izyum
Kharkiv region, Slobozhanshchyna
Population in 2021: 45.9 thousand people
Area: 43.6 sq. km
Most important objects: Izyum Instrument-Making Plant
Scale of destruction: 80%
Status: Liberated from the occupiers on September 22, 2022. Restoration underway.
Avdiivka
Pokrovsky district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 31.9 thousand people
Area: 29 sq. km
Most important facilities: Avdiivka coke plant
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: Occupied since February 17, 2024.
Toretsk
Bakhmut district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 31.5 thousand people
Area: 62 sq. km
Most important facilities: coal industry
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: As of November 14, fighting continues, and about 800 civilians have not expressed a desire to evacuate.
Volnovakha
Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 21.4 thousand people
Area: 11.2 sq. km
Most important objects: railway junction station
Scale of destruction: 90%
Status: Occupied since March 2022.
Lyman
Kramatorsk district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 20.5 thousand people
Area: 20 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 90%
Most important objects: railway sorting station
Status: Liberated in October 2022, continues to suffer from shelling.
Popasna
Severodonetsk district of Luhansk region
Population in 2021: 19.7 thousand people
Area: 29.3 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 90%
Most important objects: Popasna wagon repair plant
Status: Occupied since May 2022.
Vovchansk
Chuguyiv district, Kharkiv region
Population in 2021: 17.7 thousand people
Area: 70 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 95%
Most important objects: Vovchansk aggregate plant
Status: Since May 2024, fighting has been ongoing around the city, residents have been evacuated, so there are probably no civilians left in Vovchansk.
Krasnogorivka
Pokrovsky district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 14.9 thousand people
Area: 11 sq. km
Largest enterprises: Krasnogorivka Refractory Plant
Scale of destruction: significant
Most important facilities: Krasnogorivka Refractory Plant OJSC
Status: Occupied since September 2024.
Vugledar
Location: Volnovakha district, Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 14.4 thousand people
Area: 5.82 sq. km
Most important facilities: coal industry
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: Occupied since October 2024, at that time about 100 residents remained in the place.
Orikhov
Polohivskyi district of Zaporizhia region
Population in 2021: 14.4 thousand people
Area: 10 sq. km
Most important objects: Orikhovskaya railway station, Orikhovskyi agricultural machinery plant
Scale of destruction: 95%
Status: Under constant shelling by Russians, about 800 people remain.
And this is not to mention the daily shelling of civilians in all cities of Ukraine.
It's strange that this time there is no inscription "to Berlin"
Why lie about something that can be verified in two clicks?
Retards who are paid well for a post are something new.
Or maybe you work for free?
The first sign of a Russian bot or their follower is a cynical lie.
The second sign of a Russian bot or their follower is constant jerking off to the word "nuclear".
Mariupol
Donetsk region, coast of the Sea of Azov
Population in 2021: 431.9 thousand
Area: 166 sq. km
Most important objects: Ilyich and Azovstal steelworks, seaport
Scale of destruction: over 90%
Status: Occupied since May 2022. About 90 thousand local residents remain. Actively settled by Russians.
Bakhmut
Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 72.3 thousand people
Area: 41.6 sq. km
Most important objects: ARTWINERY (Artemivsk champagne wine factory)
Scale of destruction: 80%
Status: Under occupation since April 2023, although the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not officially announced their withdrawal from the city. Fighting continues around Bakhmut. There is no civilian population.
Irpin
Kyiv region
Population in 2021: 62.5 thousand people
Area: 110 sq. km
Most important objects: large-scale housing construction
Scale of destruction: 70%
Status: Liberated from the occupiers on March 28, 2022. Restoration underway.
Rubizhne
Severodonetsk district, Luhansk region
Population in 2021: 56.1 thousand people
Area: 34.1 sq. km
Most important objects: Rubizhne cardboard and packaging plant
Scale of destruction: 90%
Status: Occupied since May 2022. About 10 thousand residents remain in the city.
Izyum
Kharkiv region, Slobozhanshchyna
Population in 2021: 45.9 thousand people
Area: 43.6 sq. km
Most important objects: Izyum Instrument-Making Plant
Scale of destruction: 80%
Status: Liberated from the occupiers on September 22, 2022. Restoration underway.
Avdiivka
Pokrovsky district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 31.9 thousand people
Area: 29 sq. km
Most important facilities: Avdiivka coke plant
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: Occupied since February 17, 2024.
Toretsk
Bakhmut district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 31.5 thousand people
Area: 62 sq. km
Most important facilities: coal industry
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: As of November 14, fighting continues, and about 800 civilians have not expressed a desire to evacuate.
Volnovakha
Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 21.4 thousand people
Area: 11.2 sq. km
Most important objects: railway junction station
Scale of destruction: 90%
Status: Occupied since March 2022.
Lyman
Kramatorsk district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 20.5 thousand people
Area: 20 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 90%
Most important objects: railway sorting station
Status: Liberated in October 2022, continues to suffer from shelling.
Popasna
Severodonetsk district of Luhansk region
Population in 2021: 19.7 thousand people
Area: 29.3 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 90%
Most important objects: Popasna wagon repair plant
Status: Occupied since May 2022.
Vovchansk
Chuguyiv district, Kharkiv region
Population in 2021: 17.7 thousand people
Area: 70 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 95%
Most important objects: Vovchansk aggregate plant
Status: Since May 2024, fighting has been ongoing around the city, residents have been evacuated, so there are probably no civilians left in Vovchansk.
Krasnogorivka
Pokrovsky district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 14.9 thousand people
Area: 11 sq. km
Largest enterprises: Krasnogorivka Refractory Plant
Scale of destruction: significant
Most important facilities: Krasnogorivka Refractory Plant OJSC
Status: Occupied since September 2024.
Vugledar
Location: Volnovakha district, Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 14.4 thousand people
Area: 5.82 sq. km
Most important facilities: coal industry
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: Occupied since October 2024, at that time about 100 residents remained in the place.
Orikhov
Polohivskyi district of Zaporizhia region
Population in 2021: 14.4 thousand people
Area: 10 sq. km
Most important objects: Orikhovskaya railway station, Orikhovskyi agricultural machinery plant
Scale of destruction: 95%
Status: Under constant shelling by Russians, about 800 people remain.
And this is not to mention the daily shelling of civilians in all cities of Ukraine.
There is no winning move here, that was by design before the game started. There is but one conclusion,...
edit to add
Top-secret US spy jet spotted circling Russia amid mounting WW3 fears
A US Air Force spy plane was spotted repeatedly circling over Russian airspace amid escalating tensions with Moscow, raising fears of a potential flashpoint that could ignite a third world war.www.dailymail.co.uk
Tic Tac Toe. There's no winning. They made the movie back in the 80's.
A mule from the Russian "Boston Dynamics"
It's strange that this time there is no inscription "to Berlin"
Why lie about something that can be verified in two clicks?
Retards who are paid well for a post are something new.
Or maybe you work for free?
The first sign of a Russian bot or their follower is a cynical lie.
The second sign of a Russian bot or their follower is constant jerking off to the word "nuclear".
Mariupol
Donetsk region, coast of the Sea of Azov
Population in 2021: 431.9 thousand
Area: 166 sq. km
Most important objects: Ilyich and Azovstal steelworks, seaport
Scale of destruction: over 90%
Status: Occupied since May 2022. About 90 thousand local residents remain. Actively settled by Russians.
Bakhmut
Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 72.3 thousand people
Area: 41.6 sq. km
Most important objects: ARTWINERY (Artemivsk champagne wine factory)
Scale of destruction: 80%
Status: Under occupation since April 2023, although the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not officially announced their withdrawal from the city. Fighting continues around Bakhmut. There is no civilian population.
Irpin
Kyiv region
Population in 2021: 62.5 thousand people
Area: 110 sq. km
Most important objects: large-scale housing construction
Scale of destruction: 70%
Status: Liberated from the occupiers on March 28, 2022. Restoration underway.
Rubizhne
Severodonetsk district, Luhansk region
Population in 2021: 56.1 thousand people
Area: 34.1 sq. km
Most important objects: Rubizhne cardboard and packaging plant
Scale of destruction: 90%
Status: Occupied since May 2022. About 10 thousand residents remain in the city.
Izyum
Kharkiv region, Slobozhanshchyna
Population in 2021: 45.9 thousand people
Area: 43.6 sq. km
Most important objects: Izyum Instrument-Making Plant
Scale of destruction: 80%
Status: Liberated from the occupiers on September 22, 2022. Restoration underway.
Avdiivka
Pokrovsky district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 31.9 thousand people
Area: 29 sq. km
Most important facilities: Avdiivka coke plant
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: Occupied since February 17, 2024.
Toretsk
Bakhmut district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 31.5 thousand people
Area: 62 sq. km
Most important facilities: coal industry
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: As of November 14, fighting continues, and about 800 civilians have not expressed a desire to evacuate.
Volnovakha
Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 21.4 thousand people
Area: 11.2 sq. km
Most important objects: railway junction station
Scale of destruction: 90%
Status: Occupied since March 2022.
Lyman
Kramatorsk district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 20.5 thousand people
Area: 20 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 90%
Most important objects: railway sorting station
Status: Liberated in October 2022, continues to suffer from shelling.
Popasna
Severodonetsk district of Luhansk region
Population in 2021: 19.7 thousand people
Area: 29.3 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 90%
Most important objects: Popasna wagon repair plant
Status: Occupied since May 2022.
Vovchansk
Chuguyiv district, Kharkiv region
Population in 2021: 17.7 thousand people
Area: 70 sq. km
Scale of destruction: 95%
Most important objects: Vovchansk aggregate plant
Status: Since May 2024, fighting has been ongoing around the city, residents have been evacuated, so there are probably no civilians left in Vovchansk.
Krasnogorivka
Pokrovsky district of Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 14.9 thousand people
Area: 11 sq. km
Largest enterprises: Krasnogorivka Refractory Plant
Scale of destruction: significant
Most important facilities: Krasnogorivka Refractory Plant OJSC
Status: Occupied since September 2024.
Vugledar
Location: Volnovakha district, Donetsk region
Population in 2021: 14.4 thousand people
Area: 5.82 sq. km
Most important facilities: coal industry
Scale of destruction: significant
Status: Occupied since October 2024, at that time about 100 residents remained in the place.
Orikhov
Polohivskyi district of Zaporizhia region
Population in 2021: 14.4 thousand people
Area: 10 sq. km
Most important objects: Orikhovskaya railway station, Orikhovskyi agricultural machinery plant
Scale of destruction: 95%
Status: Under constant shelling by Russians, about 800 people remain.
And this is not to mention the daily shelling of civilians in all cities of Ukraine.
Laughing, if Russia decides it's had enough of your B/S it will just step on you like the ants you are. You still don't have a clue as to how big of a pawn uke land is. When the US changes policy you'll be swinging in the breeze like wet laundry an your euro fags will never step up, as they have a long history of talking out their ass/s,...
convenient story, but not really buying it.
sure it may have been a factor, but i think the war started because western oil companies had already invested billions preparing to exploit the natural resources in the donbas (russian speaking) region. of course burisma was involved in that...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
sure it may have been a factor, but i think the war started because western oil companies had already invested billions preparing to exploit the natural resources in the donbas (russian speaking) region. of course burisma was involved in that...
"The Truth Is Coming Out"... Russian President's Special Envoy: Biden "Provoked the War in Ukraine to Cover Up His Family's Corruption" | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
The entire world knew Joe Biden was corrupt and conflicted.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
The ukes have the ability to change their gov, yet they remain on their knees & keep swallowing.
Great non answer leading straight into
mentions of gay sex. Bravo.
Given your prior lackluster performance in answering questions pertaining to basic targeting doctrine perhaps you should refrain from commenting on that subject.
I literally replied to a post using the word questioning its use. Is English your first language?
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Bazinga ... send me to the burn unit.
Yes, strategic and moral/ethical are not always in lock step.
e.g. Vietnam, Korea
Can you explain how, in your mind, maternity and children's cancer hospitals are strategic targets?
Medical infrastructure and supplies for example.
Again, for the sake of English, strategic does not always include morals or ethics.
Attacks on food, fuel and power infrastructure can also be strategic without the baggage of morals or ethics.
Elaborate on your opinion in a non-question form.
This topic is about Russia. You mixed up the thread.
But you, as the number 1 content generator on this forum, can be forgiven.
Just in case, I'll remind you since you're already here anyway
Quoting the whore Panchenko from Medvedchuk's entourage is the same as eating shit in front of people.
So what's the problem? Why have they been storming the backyards and barns of Donetsk villages with cannon fodder for 4 years?
It's always funny when a paper tiger, claiming half the world, sprays everyone around with nuclear diarrhea.
38% of oil refining is gone (and our Flamingos haven't even flown yet), the nuclear triad has lost one head, gasoline is being given out on coupons for 20 liters per person.
They raised the retirement age, civilian planes are crashing without Western spare parts, oil is being smuggled out for half the price, the legislation has already surpassed North Korea - for entering the square with a blank piece of paper without slogans, you are put in prison.
But on their television they are already on the verge of Warsaw.
"Give a Russian a star chart, and he'll return it to you in the morning, corrected"
Fedor Dostoevsky.
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Don’t laugh seriously now how fucked up one has to be to post shit like those idiots here do… This is really the level of i will burn my brother to keep myself alive for a month more mentality. It’s sad and pathetic to the point of utter unhuman being.
I doubt these two clowns ever got out of moms basement, for their ability to think is kindergarten grade at best.
Hohols (acting confused): we keep housing troops and storing military supplies in hospitals. Why do the Russians keep bombing them? they aren't supposed to bomb hospitals!
back when the Russians first started liberating Donbas, I remember seeing so many pics by the Ukes of their troops hiding in places they were not supposed to be. I remember one, a Ukrop unit in a kindergarten building, with all the kiddie art and crayons drawings on the walls. Now granted, Ukrainians are famous for being simpletons, so it might have been a community college, but either way, it was still a "school building" so when the Russians made it go boom, with all the Ukrops inside, they were "bombing a school" and the hohols were counted as students.
I understand people who cheerlead for puccia; they'll excuse anything they do as justified and outright deny and then deflect any mention of mass-scale, institutional and doctrine based murder. I fail to grasp how people with critical thinking skills and even the most boot lieutenant-brained concept of warfare and politics see the expenditure of long ranged precision guided munitions to terror bomb non-military targets (hospitals, apartment blocks and even playgrounds) as a valid strategy to overcome an enemy belligerent.
This guy doesn't understand what this word means
Shouldn't you be out snatching young men off the streets and forcing them into service for your country?
My country has a thing called selective service. Of which, depending on which data you're looking at and with secwar's renewed calls to kick out fat "people" and women, between 70-80% of potential fighting age men are ineligible due to being fat and retarded- something you may be very familiar with.
Nice way of saying fuck you peasant, die for my greed & power. Just like, taxes are nothing more than legalized theft.
