Is something going on in Ukraine?

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I'm real tired of the jump on the next bandwagon BS. Sometimes everyone's just assholes and you don't have to pick sides.

Ukraine should be pissed at their government and NATO that had a huge part in starting this whole mess.

Wasn't there a bunch of "ethnic cleansing" type shit azov was doing back somewhere around 2014? I seem to remember a lot of ethnic Russian civilians getting attacked.


Not an excuse for Russia, but everyone on one side isn't innocent either.

Whole things a clusterfuck.

it's not just a clusterfuck.

it's a clusterfuck that the government is demanding American citizens pay 125 billion dollars for, while our own country is falling apart.

I don’t need a ride, I need ammo!
your m91/30 and 5 rounds will be provided by the CIA guy right outside of Bakhmut, when you arrive. good luck!
 
Great name calling now. Your ignorance shows. Have a good one. haha!
Moron isn't a name it's a descriptor, you're ignorance is showing.

"The word moron, along with others including "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists."

Fuck face is a name. Moron is what you are not who you are.
 
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I think he really needs 40-50 billion more dollars 🙄


....where most of it magically disappears...
I'm going about this all wrong, I should hang out at the LAX airport in an Adidas track suit with my luggage, draped in a ukranian flag I'll ask for handouts. Bet I could clear a thousand bucks a day.
 
Moron isn't a name it's a descriptor, you're ignorance is showing.

"The word moron, along with others including "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists."

Fuck face is a name. Moron is what you are not who you are.
Your ability to understand that videos made today on the computers that are around make insane videos, give me a good laugh. Then add filters and boom makes you look twice. Not all are experts like yourself. haha!


PS didnt say anything about super computers. I stated high end PC's that do insane things this day in age.
 
Boris, stop pretending you don’t understand why I called you a liar. Everyone here understands why. And, again, go fuck yourself.

See, you insult, I insult.
olek, you're an idiot and your clown (z of ukraina) paid cock sucker.

Consider this as my final verdict.

But I will take a liberty of going after you (olek) as I wish, so get ready.

To my Bear Pit brothers and moderator: I sincerely apologies for my bad language.

olek, where is the proof of my lies? Push and deliver something, will you? Asking you the same question for at least 3 times.
 
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olek, you're an idiot and your clown (z of ukraina) paid cock sucker.

Consider this as my final verdict.

But I will take a liberty of going after you (olek) as I wish, so get ready.

To my Bear Pit brothers and moderator: I sincerely apologies for my bad language.

olek, where is the proof of my lies? Push and deliver something...

The only cock sucker here is you.

Are you threatening me fuck face?
 
Your ability to understand that videos made today on the computers that are around make insane videos, give me a good laugh. Then add filters and boom makes you look twice. Not all are experts like yourself. haha!


PS didnt say anything about super computers. I stated high end PC's that do insane things this day in age.
This was before all the AI and deep fake bs was mainstream it was known video games, and I play and read about zero video games. I have common sense which is lacking anymore.

It's called sarcasm, sorry I didn't post a spongebob meme to help you understand.
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The only cock sucker here is you.

Are you threatening me fuck face?
Of course, not. Your life is in no danger, unless you go to fight for ukraina, but it is clear now that it is not in your immediate plans.

Give me the proof of my lies, you stupid fuck. Just a proof, as I do not know when I've lied, so remind me...
 
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The only cock sucker here is you.

Are you threatening me fuck face?
at some point all the bluff and bluster is laid out for the bullshit that it obviously is.

He's asked you an easy, direct question multiple times.

you have avoided it, and it's painfully obvious that you are avoiding it because you've talked yourself into a corner and can't get out.


and if you don't answer, it also becomes obvious to any objective person reading this thread that you have no credibility.
 
Of course, not. Your life is in no danger, unless you go to fight for ukraina, but it is clear that it is not in your immediate plans.

Give me the proof of my lies, you stupid fuck. Just a proof, as I do not know when I've lied. Remind me.

Stupid fuck is the lying bitch you see when you look in the mirror.

Go, read back, and figure out for yourself since your dumb ass can’t remember it’s own lies.

See, you insult, I insult. You should be able to figure out this one soon. (Hopefully)
 
Just ignore little Aleks as it brings nothing to conversation or thread. I guess little bitch is happy with disruption as in any offtopic is better than facts that if seen by rational thinking person make anyone suspect of motives and goals of western leaders. If one looks at west as a whole its pretty evident that there are forces that are actively destroying civilization, gained norms and standards not to mention the way of life that was probably best ever on this planet (albeit a fraction of time). What has been gained in blood through decades - even centuries if you take into account French revolution, Magna carta and other experiments in human decency, will be squandered in few years.
 
at some point all the bluff and bluster is laid out for the bullshit that it obviously is.

He's asked you an easy, direct question multiple times.

you have avoided it, and it's painfully obvious that you are avoiding it because you've talked yourself into a corner and can't get out.


and if you don't answer, it also becomes obvious to any objective person reading this thread that you have no credibility.

Go read back, it’s pretty obvious. Unless you don’t care about truth.
 
Just ignore little Aleks as it brings nothing to conversation or thread. I guess little bitch is happy with disruption as in any offtopic is better than facts that if seen by rational thinking person make anyone suspect of motives and goals of western leaders. If one looks at west as a whole its pretty evident that there are forces that are actively destroying civilization, gained norms and standards not to mention the way of life that was probably best ever on this planet (albeit a fraction of time). What has been gained in blood through decades - even centuries if you take into account French revolution, Magna carta and other experiments in human decency, will be squandered in few years.

Oh no, another cock sucker! 😂

Too many of you.

I feel surrounded (the 3 side surrounded) 😂😂😂

See, you insult, I insult.
 
Listen to this jack ass... Start at 40:20 give it a minute or two...


Same guy who called for a preemptive nuclear strike on Moscow. He is a menace to the world.

I would ask the question if anyone takes this creep seriously? The answer, sadly, is yes.

Too many of our faggot loving political masters have bought into his creepiness and BS to the point that they are giving away our money and our weapons to this idiot.

Here's hoping that he sticks a pistol in his mouth in the Führerbunker.

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This was before all the AI and deep fake bs was mainstream it was known video games, and I play and read about zero video games. I have common sense which is lacking anymore.

It's called sarcasm, sorry I didn't post a spongebob meme to help you understand.
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I think you may be arguing with an actual retard.
 
Your ability to understand that videos made today on the computers that are around make insane videos, give me a good laugh. Then add filters and boom makes you look twice. Not all are experts like yourself. haha!


PS didnt say anything about super computers. I stated high end PC's that do insane things this day in age.
Have you ever heard of Captain Disillusion? If you know what to look for trickery is easy to see. Watch a few of these and you might get a clue what we are talking about.
 
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Will you guys give it a rest, I have a feeling I am not the only one that used the scroll wheel more then reading the last entries of this thread, we get it now stow it please. I might have to figure out how ignore works again.

On a side note, was talking to a buddy that did a few things in the army, he is now also an "old boomer" like myself. And he told me the Ukraine .gov is now "drafting" people that are "foreign" and currently living in Ukraine. That they are also on their 5th round of their "draft". And any male coming "of age" in the next 9 months can not leave the country, and basically "register".

If any or all that is true, these are not the actions of people that are "winning".

I just think how many people would be alive today if it was not for the idiots running "the west".

The more I learn the more I think we are not the "good guys" anymore.
 
I just think how many people would be alive today if it was not for the idiots running "the west".
As has been mentioned frequently on this thread, the Ukrainian population has lost much of the best and bravest of their male population.

In terms of second and third ordered effects, this affects the next generation growing up in Ukraine and the generation after that.

The quality of the "men" left in Ukraine is questionable as so many have been ground up in the meat grinder already.

Once the men from other countries with means swarm into Ukraine looking for wives and a "ground up" opportunity for businesses and rebuilding, that will affect the genetics of the next gen of Ukrainian people and the culture.

I'm NOT pushing for ethnic purity or any of that stupidity. Just repeating the concept that the genetic makeup of Ukraine will never recover/be the same after this war is over.

I refer to WW3 between the US, UK, EU vs Russia, China, Iran, NK, and now apparently to some degree Brazil. Not Putin's "Special Military Operation" as that was only the opening days a year ago.

Just because the battlefield is mostly in Ukraine doesn't mean that multiple countries aren't engaged in wartime support and funding. WW3 has already begun, hopefully the body count will be lower than the previous two.

We can call ourselves "Back to Back World War Champs!", but remember the roles Russia in WW1, and Russia under the Soviet umbrella in WW2 took in helping to win the wars.

In WW2, greater than 50% of households in the Soviet Union lost a nuclear member. That is a LOT of households.

The Russians have always been good at grinding it out in war when attrition is high. We have always been good at tucking tail once the bodybags begin piling up.

Past the stupidity of fighting Russia in a ground war in Ukraine, and a maritime war with China in the "South China Sea" area...

I sincerely fear we are setting ourselves up for a major crisis once this is all over (Ukraine and assuming that Taiwan is blockaded)

If we incur major losses in battle in either theatre, added to our current generation's apathy to patriotism and downright hatred for this great nation, and the overall attitude of the current and upcoming generation (less service minded, less sacrificial... more blue hair, cross gendered, egocentric, professional victims), and the growing distrust of our "dear president" and leaders' decisions, and fear/anger regarding the vaccine being mandatory previously, and making living on base difficult for people under 25 because they will not be allowed to own firearms (I think that's right)...

I fear our volunteer military will collapse completely. Who will join up? Who will serve?

Who will trust the VA to take care of them after? Who will trust the gov to make the honorable and noble decisions on whom/when/where to fight? Versus being used as a pawn for corporate interests (Military industry, rebuilding Ukraine, dear president kickbacks, Dem kickbacks, etc). How many of the green haired teens and 20 year olds working at fast food and Starbucks you see will be willing to shave their head, submit to being yelled at, and told what to do? Can you imagine them in combat?

Apologies if I sound like I'm anti-American. I am not. Simply fearing for the future of our great nation given the pattern of short sighted "leadership" we have been getting. I wonder if the corruption is as deep as it was in Ukraine.

What is it about human nature that the most capable and honorable are always looking to make a difference doing the hard work, while sociopaths, narcissists, Milley types are always only looking to increase, power, prestige, pay, and seek higher and higher positions above others to force the people that can and do the actual work to bend to their will when they can't and refuse to actually do work?

Same applies to politicians. You can't get that high up there without getting your hands dirty to some degree.
 
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