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Interesting use of words there Wapo - the moderate republican was "dispatched" - not the conservative "won"

Dispatch:
1: to send off or away with promptness or speed
dispatch an ambulance to the scene​
2: to kill with quick efficiency
dispatched the deer with one shot​

And Wapo is saying it's the extreme right instigating stuff - Words Matter
 
RINO turncoats here, Zelensky there. same playbook. they rape everything of value until the jig is up, and then they run away, scott free, and spend their loot. The utter devastation they leave behind means nothing to them at all.


Intel Slava Z
"This is what will happen (remember my words later). Zelensky and his gang will run away just like Yanukovych did. Those of the Ukrainian soldiers who do not die will curse him, as they cursed Yanukovych. But neither Yanukovych nor Zelensky will be neither cold nor hot from this. Zelensky will end up in the USA or in Europe, it doesn’t matter.

Here's what's important. They will not stay close to their people. They will not share the fate of the army. And they won't die. And even more so, no one commits suicide and does not ask to burn his corpse in a pit. They are calm because they know they have somewhere to run and what to live on after fleeing. They will not bear any responsibility for the country they have devastated and plundered.

And the only fools in this situation will be ordinary Ukrainians, as once were ordinary Germans who believed in their Fuhrer. Every Ukrainian should ask himself: are the authorities of the country ready to share our fate with us? And listen to your heart. It will give a bitter but honest answer. They and their attendants have somewhere to run. And you have nowhere. You die only so that they can steal a little more and take it away."
 
RINO turncoats here, Zelensky there. same playbook. they rape everything of value until the jig is up, and then they run away, scott free, and spend their loot. The utter devastation they leave behind means nothing to them at all.


Intel Slava Z
"This is what will happen (remember my words later). Zelensky and his gang will run away just like Yanukovych did. Those of the Ukrainian soldiers who do not die will curse him, as they cursed Yanukovych. But neither Yanukovych nor Zelensky will be neither cold nor hot from this. Zelensky will end up in the USA or in Europe, it doesn’t matter.

Here's what's important. They will not stay close to their people. They will not share the fate of the army. And they won't die. And even more so, no one commits suicide and does not ask to burn his corpse in a pit. They are calm because they know they have somewhere to run and what to live on after fleeing. They will not bear any responsibility for the country they have devastated and plundered.

And the only fools in this situation will be ordinary Ukrainians, as once were ordinary Germans who believed in their Fuhrer. Every Ukrainian should ask himself: are the authorities of the country ready to share our fate with us? And listen to your heart. It will give a bitter but honest answer. They and their attendants have somewhere to run. And you have nowhere. You die only so that they can steal a little more and take it away."
Spot on. He’s got badass mansions in Switzerland and Florida. Many(and I include myself in this camp) figure he ain’t even in Ukraine, at least not permanent. He probably goes there every so often and stays just long enough to greet visiting American politics and get his money then GTFO’s.
 
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But but but, muh news still says Ukraine is winning and is the Victim in all this?!!??!!!??!!

I only stop by this thread to see if the bean counters who yelled "Po Russia is muh bad!!!" are still hanging around as the narrative changes and our sanctions fall apart. What ever happened to that guy who put up pics of his new Support Ukraine stickers? lol
 
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While it's hard to say because the tyrannical Zelenky regime arrests and tortures and kills anyone who says the truth about things, I would chance an educated guess and say that both sides are essentially playing the cannon fodder game, but the Russians have a lot more cannon fodder to keep putting up and the Ukranians are taking a lot more losses than they let on so they are losing the whole game of who runs out of blood first.

I somehow also suspect that a good part of all those billions in high tech weapons that are supposedly going there are being diverted to be sold for even more money so Zelensky and cohorts have fat European bank accounts for when they cut and run.
Why else would some Ukrainian plane have crashed caring a full load of weapons headed to one or more other countries when they are so desparate for weapons to fight their own war?
 
While it's hard to say because the tyrannical Zelenky regime arrests and tortures and kills anyone who says the truth about things, I would chance an educated guess and say that both sides are essentially playing the cannon fodder game, but the Russians have a lot more cannon fodder to keep putting up and the Ukranians are taking a lot more losses than they let on so they are losing the whole game of who runs out of blood first.

I somehow also suspect that a good part of all those billions in high tech weapons that are supposedly going there are being diverted to be sold for even more money so Zelensky and cohorts have fat European bank accounts for when they cut and run.
Why else would some Ukrainian plane have crashed caring a full load of weapons headed to one or more other countries when they are so desparate for weapons to fight their own war?
same old stupidity. The ARVN would sell US supplied weapons to the Reds before the receipt even made it back to Da Nang.

it's only our tax money. nobody cares or asks for our consent.
 
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The Russians got kicked off Snake Island. Russia lost most of its Army level ammo supply dumps within 100Km of the front the last two months. And we are seeing lots of pictures of splintered artillery tubes. Russia was never very good at maintenance and that is taking its toll as well. Going to get to next to impossible for Russia to sustain anything.

I know there are despair trolls on here and some Russian propogandists, too, ( privyet), but here is the playbook now. There are lots of open source indicators that this is the runbook.

1. Continue to isolate the battlefield using HIMARs to take out supply dumps and SAM/AA.
2. Disrupt Regimental and below command and control using precision artillery.
3. Build a complete order of battle using both MI and Recon.
4. Analyze various maneuver options.
5. Raise maneuver unit capabilities via training and maintenance cadences
6. Decide on a course of action and brief to it. Clear any bottlenecks raised by unit commanders.
7. Begin deception operations.
8. Run the table.
 
The Russians got kicked off Snake Island. Russia lost most of its Army level ammo supply dumps within 100Km of the front the last two months. And we are seeing lots of pictures of splintered artillery tubes. Russia was never very good at maintenance and that is taking its toll as well. Going to get to next to impossible for Russia to sustain anything.

I know there are despair trolls on here and some Russian propogandists, too, ( privyet), but here is the playbook now. There are lots of open source indicators that this is the runbook.

1. Continue to isolate the battlefield using HIMARs to take out supply dumps and SAM/AA.
2. Disrupt Regimental and below command and control using precision artillery.
3. Build a complete order of battle using both MI and Recon.
4. Analyze various maneuver options.
5. Raise maneuver unit capabilities via training and maintenance cadences
6. Decide on a course of action and brief to it. Clear any bottlenecks raised by unit commanders.
7. Begin deception operations.
8. Run the table.

Whoa

First hand knowledge from the guy who thinks the ATF has balls when burning kids alive

Everyone stop what your doing and read, we may just be witnessing the Ukrainian militaries plan of action.

Remember, anyone who disagrees or raises questions a about Ukrainr is a Russian proganda spreader...#fake news, #saveukraine, #bootsonthegroundfirsthandknowledgeOldLoser
 
Wheat back to pre-invasion price even in the inflationary times.

 
All the snazzy scenarios will be over in one big blast for show.

Z will magically be gone.

Question is has the biden cartell stolen all the money it can yet?

He will push that button not Putin .
 
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The Russians got kicked off Snake Island. Russia lost most of its Army level ammo supply dumps within 100Km of the front the last two months. And we are seeing lots of pictures of splintered artillery tubes. Russia was never very good at maintenance and that is taking its toll as well. Going to get to next to impossible for Russia to sustain anything.

I know there are despair trolls on here and some Russian propogandists, too, ( privyet), but here is the playbook now. There are lots of open source indicators that this is the runbook.

1. Continue to isolate the battlefield using HIMARs to take out supply dumps and SAM/AA.
2. Disrupt Regimental and below command and control using precision artillery.
3. Build a complete order of battle using both MI and Recon.
4. Analyze various maneuver options.
5. Raise maneuver unit capabilities via training and maintenance cadences
6. Decide on a course of action and brief to it. Clear any bottlenecks raised by unit commanders.
7. Begin deception operations.
8. Run the table.

I'd be careful of listening to too much glorious propaganda from the Ukranians and our local Pravda outlets.
In my opinion, the chances of mass winning and pushing all the Russians back into Russia and ethnically cleansing all the undesirables in the Donbas and establishing the new Reich is a bit over hyped.

More than likely it will be fought to somewhat of a stalemate and then be ended by negotiations.

Chances are if this war drags out into mid winter, the Russians and everyone that is using the Ukrainians as their proxy army are going to all get pretty serious about negotiating an end to things.
 
Whoa

First hand knowledge from the guy who thinks the ATF has balls when burning kids alive

Everyone stop what your doing and read, we may just be witnessing the Ukrainian militaries plan of action.

Remember, anyone who disagrees or raises questions a about Ukrainr is a Russian proganda spreader...#fake news, #saveukraine, #bootsonthegroundfirsthandknowledgeOldLoser

More first hand than yours. I went through several cycles just like this in the late 80s and early 90s.

HIMARS is a weapon built to do a specific thing as part of the old AirLand battle doctrine. Not much has changed.

As for the ATF.. He genius, my comment was that the ATF had more balls than the Uvalde police department and did stay engaged in a firefight..
Whether what they did was right or wrong is another topic, or how they did it was right or wrong is yet another topic. My opinion is negative on both of those. But I cant expect critical thinking from a keyboard commando sitting in his skidmarked underwear who cuts and pastes photoshopped images from propoganda sites.
 
More first hand than yours. I went through several cycles just like this in the late 80s and early 90s.

HIMARS is a weapon built to do a specific thing as part of the old AirLand battle doctrine. Not much has changed.

As for the ATF.. He genius, my comment was that the ATF had more balls than the Uvalde police department and did stay engaged in a firefight..
Whether what they did was right or wrong is another topic, or how they did it was right or wrong is yet another topic. My opinion is negative on both of those. But I cant expect critical thinking from a keyboard commando sitting in his skidmarked underwear who cuts and pastes photoshopped images from propoganda sites.
😆 🤣 I'm the keyboard commando. Find thicker skin champ, your gonna need it. Good to know your boots on the ground in Ukraine, we need the inside scoop. And you know nothing about my past, I don't need to eflex to prove superiority.

But thanks for explaining, wasn't necessary as I didn't care... but nice job. Anyone at this point who still calls an opposing opinion russian propaganda is Helen Keller blind.

Move along, your drunk. This is the pit, get thicker skin, or don't click on it.
 
I'd be careful of listening to too much glorious propaganda from the Ukranians and our local Pravda outlets.
In my opinion, the chances of mass winning and pushing all the Russians back into Russia and ethnically cleansing all the undesirables in the Donbas and establishing the new Reich is a bit over hyped.

More than likely it will be fought to somewhat of a stalemate and then be ended by negotiations.

Chances are if this war drags out into mid winter, the Russians and everyone that is using the Ukrainians as their proxy army are going to all get pretty serious about negotiating an end to things.

The Ukrainians will try to turn this into a maneuver battle first to see what they can prove. I think they can do it.

Unfortunately for them, the winter freeze and the resulting required trafficability will not come until Europe runs out of Natural Gas and shuts down.

That's why Gerhard Schroder is in Moscow to get this negotiated.
 
😆 🤣 I'm the keyboard commando. Find thicker skin champ, your gonna need it. Good to know your boots on the ground in Ukraine, we need the inside scoop. And you know nothing about my past, I don't need to eflex to prove superiority.

But thanks for explaining, wasn't necessary as I didn't care... but nice job. Anyone at this point who still calls an opposing opinion russian propaganda is Helen Keller blind.

Move along, your drunk. This is the pit, get thicker skin, or don't click on it.

Its "you're drunk" grammar whisperer.

I see nothing in your posts to indicate any skillset or experience that would apply to analyzing a conflict of any scale other than maybe a fight by two crack whores over a few drops of vodka in a bottle in a dumpster outside a bar in Tijuana.
 
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For those who care, here is the daily map of strikes. I check it every few days. Knowing where the FEBA is, it looks like Ukraine is pounding the shit out of the Russians. I could be wrong. But its a data point.

 
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Its "you're drunk" grammar whisperer.

I see nothing in your posts to indicate any skillset or experience that would apply to analyzing a conflict of any scale other than maybe a fight by two crack whores over a few drops of vodka in a bottle in a dumpster outside a bar in Tijuana.

Yea, im definitely the keyboard commando. You did solid with the grammar correction.

I feel no need to project my thoughts (as in what is actually taking place) on the current conflict in any shape because it screams ignorance. There isn't a single person this side of the ocean that knows what's happening. But hey, You did great. #bootsonthegroundoldloser

I'll say it again, work on that skin, gotta get it thicker with all that experience.
 
Chances are if this war drags out into mid winter, the Russians and everyone that is using the Ukrainians as their proxy army are going to all get pretty serious about negotiating an end to things.

I think regardless of sanctions, Putin realizes Russian gas is King esp. with PedoPeter restricting US production. EU can't increase is coal/nuclear fast enough. "Under my thumb" Putin will be saying to the EU come winter.
 
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I think regardless of sanctions, Putin realizes Russian gas is King esp. with PedoPeter restricting US production. EU can't increase is coal/nuclear fast enough. "Under my thumb" Putin will be saying to the EU come winter.
Are people so dumb they don't remember Pedo killing gas exploration and drilling in his second week in office. Oh and those 10k jobs with the XL pipeline.

Ironically we have lead the way in emissions reducrions by relying on natural gas. So we should obviously shut that down, so Obama gets his way now. Yet here's Pete sucking Klaus Schwabs dick, and getting ass reamed by Arab states.
 
The Russians got kicked off Snake Island. Russia lost most of its Army level ammo supply dumps within 100Km of the front the last two months. And we are seeing lots of pictures of splintered artillery tubes. Russia was never very good at maintenance and that is taking its toll as well. Going to get to next to impossible for Russia to sustain anything.

I know there are despair trolls on here and some Russian propogandists, too, ( privyet), but here is the playbook now. There are lots of open source indicators that this is the runbook.

1. Continue to isolate the battlefield using HIMARs to take out supply dumps and SAM/AA.
2. Disrupt Regimental and below command and control using precision artillery.
3. Build a complete order of battle using both MI and Recon.
4. Analyze various maneuver options.
5. Raise maneuver unit capabilities via training and maintenance cadences
6. Decide on a course of action and brief to it. Clear any bottlenecks raised by unit commanders.
7. Begin deception operations.
8. Run the table.
You do realise that so far Ukraine has failed to take back anything of significance by force of arms right?
 
Relativity unbiased source on Ukrainian losses late Feb to 4th April.




25% of Ukrainian forces were wiped out around Lysychans'k.




Russian outgunning Ukraine by an unknown amount, 4-20:1.



So yeah, Ukrainian manoeuvre warfare counter attack any time now.
 
Exactly, nothing has been gained. But we will keep this protracted as possible.

Relativity unbiased source on Ukrainian losses late Feb to 4th April.




25% of Ukrainian forces were wiped out around Lysychans'k.




Russian outgunning Ukraine by an unknown amount, 4-20:1.



So yeah, Ukrainian manoeuvre warfare counter attack any time now.

Milley should go over there since he cares so much, he's so full of shit. He speaks like an idiot.
 
You do realise that so far Ukraine has failed to take back anything of significance by force of arms right?
No he doesn't, and no he doesn't care. Based on his comments I've seen he's one of the:

- I have the only correct answers
- If you share any information that I disagree with your spreading propaganda
- If you question me your x, y, z insult
- I have the experience to speak on these topics and you don't bc you disagree


Easy to read, easy to spot, and no need to reason with em bc it's pointless.
 
Its quite interesting how reporting on Ukraine changed of late, no more wining, freedom fries , the bulwark of the free world, ever more articles in MSM criticizing Ukrainian leadership in all venues from corruption to managing the war.

Before the Russian invasion, CIA reports linked Zelensky to an oligarch so dirty and so mired in “significant corruption” that the State Department banned him from entering the U.S.Then propaganda portrayed Zelensky as nobler than Winston Churchill and saintlier than Mother Theresa.
Will the Real Volodymyr Zelensky Please Stand Up

Remember when Sen.Rand wanted supervision over bags of cash and everyone was upset over it . Now that money is doled out we can start with 'concerns'




The inspector of the army, Lieutenant General Alfons Mais, gave an interview to the Handelsblatt.

The inspector of the army is happy about the 100billion special fund for the Bundeswehr, but he also urges caution. It will be a while before the money for projects is approved and is reflected in reality in better armaments and more personnel.

He continues: “Even if the money is there now, the question remains how quickly Parliament will approve the specific projects and how quickly the industry can deliver. Germany is not the only customer, the armed forces are currently being better equipped throughout Europe. It would be worth the sweat of the nobles to sit down and see who is actually doing what and who is going first.. But of course, that's not easy, because all nations understandably also have their own needs in mind. This approach is therefore still a very ambitious project.”
You have to reckon with a period of five to eight years until the Bundeswehr is fully operational again. The state of the Bundeswehr is not particularly good at the moment, and the aid to Ukraine is weakening its ability to defend itself. In addition, the Bundeswehr must be operational enough to be able to react quickly on the eastern flank - especially in Lithuania.

The Bundeswehr inspector general also confirms that Russia is making progress in the Ukraine war. “After Russia failed in the first phase and was unable to take Kyiv, it has been regrouping its troops since the end of March, massing them in a smaller area and refocusing the offensive. With its artillery superiority, the Russian army is apparently working its way forward kilometer by kilometer. This is a war of attrition and attrition that will raise the question of how long Ukraine can hold out. I'm not only talking about material, but also about the personnel.” The inspector is surprised at the brutality of the war.
He says: "It is evident that the assumptions were wrong about how future warfare will develop. We see no cyberwar and no surgical, high-tech dominated, 'clean' war. A dirty land war is raging in Ukraine, including with brutal attacks against civilians, which I did not think we would have to experience again in Europe.”
Russia started the war naively, and the attack on Kyiv was a disaster. Nevertheless: “But I warn against underestimating Russia. Armies that have sailed close to defeat learn the fastest.” Since the country is an autocracy, the losses suffered by the Russian army do not matter much. “Of course, the armed forces there are learning from the experience of the Ukraine war. The Russian army is getting stronger. And Russia has resources that are almost inexhaustible. In an autocratic system, the casualty rate among your own soldiers doesn't seem to matter. The media have been brought into line, and public support is evidently still high. That would probably not be conceivable for us.”
 
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The Bundeswehr inspector general also confirms that Russia is making progress in the Ukraine war. “After Russia failed in the first phase and was unable to take Kyiv, it has been regrouping its troops since the end of March, massing them in a smaller area and refocusing the offensive. With its artillery superiority, the Russian army is apparently working its way forward kilometer by kilometer. This is a war of attrition and attrition that will raise the question of how long Ukraine can hold out. I'm not only talking about material, but also about the personnel.” The inspector is surprised at the brutality of the war.

He says: "It is evident that the assumptions were wrong about how future warfare will develop. We see no cyberwar and no surgical, high-tech dominated, 'clean' war. A dirty land war is raging in Ukraine, including with brutal attacks against civilians, which I did not think we would have to experience again in Europe.”

Russia started the war naively, and the attack on Kyiv was a disaster. Nevertheless: “But I warn against underestimating Russia. Armies that have sailed close to defeat learn the fastest.” Since the country is an autocracy, the losses suffered by the Russian army do not matter much.

Finally, a post remotely close to showing the Russian strategy and processes around executing it.

He's right and he is wrong. He is right about the massed artillery fires and the umbrella of SAM. Its called a hedgehog.

As long as the Russians could mass fires, maintain SAM coverage, and have fire superiority they could make it work.

The Russians can only maintain the hedgehog strategy if they have intact logistics bases, SAM, and lines of communication (LOC).

That is where he is wrong.

HIMARs took away the bases and SAM and now the Ukrainians are taking away the LOC. They are currently systematically reducing the LOC by taking out bridges or making those bridges incapable of handling heavy traffic. For example, the Antonovsky bridge was holed in about a dozen places and now it cannot handle heavy traffic - on July 21.

As mentioned in a previous post, the Ukrainians are currently isolating the battlefield. Particularly around Kherson with the final goal looking like Crimea.

Keep in mind that the Ukraine sank a bunch of Russian ships and took away the ability to supply over the beach in South Ukraine. They also took away Snake Island as an observation post. This set the stage for isolating Southern Ukraine and the operations listed above. Ukraine is executing a disciplined strategy.

Neither Russia nor Ukraine have infinite resources. The Russian manufacturing base is bad. And their ability to train replacements is not good. They have horrible maintenance. The Ukraine has Western logistics and Western training resources but limited manpower.

At some point both sides will declare limited victory and end the fight. Ukraine takes back Southern Ukraine, maybe Crimea, and protects Odessa. It can then export grain. And threaten Russia in the Black Sea. A key thing.

Russia keeps the majority Russian oblasts it took in Eastern Ukraine. Putin gets to claim he protects Russians. Which is 75% of his goal. And I admire him for being the nationalist he is and that is why he is popular in Russia.
 
The media have been brought into line, and public support is evidently still high. That would probably not be conceivable for us.”
I don't understand this statement...

HIMARs took away the bases and SAM and now the Ukrainians are taking away the LOC. They are currently systematically reducing the LOC by taking out bridges or making those bridges incapable of handling heavy traffic. For example, the Antonovsky bridge was holed in about a dozen places and now it cannot handle heavy traffic - on July 21.
Are you talking about supply lines? LOC/Lines of communication are mostly over radio and satellite these days.
Also, pretty sure Russia has drones and recon planes. They don't really need snake island for that.
 
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About a month ago, I was in an Uber in Houston with a guy who said he was a NASA employee. He said that when this whole thing kicked off and we were threatening sanctions, the Russians responded by essentially saying “Fine, we just won’t bring your astronauts back from the ISS.” I guess we rely almost exclusively on them for rockets and transport to the ISS which is a stupid way to do business. I also read a story that Musk originally went to Russia to buy ICBMs for SpaceX but they told him to pound sand so he started building his own rockets.

If only we had Space Force!!!
 
About a month ago, I was in an Uber in Houston with a guy who said he was a NASA employee. He said that when this whole thing kicked off and we were threatening sanctions, the Russians responded by essentially saying “Fine, we just won’t bring your astronauts back from the ISS.” I guess we rely almost exclusively on them for rockets and transport to the ISS which is a stupid way to do business. I also read a story that Musk originally went to Russia to buy ICBMs for SpaceX but they told him to pound sand so he started building his own rockets.

If only we had Space Force!!!

I'm pretty sure if Pedopeter was willing to leave hundreds (minimally) of Americans behind enemy lines in Afghanistan he won't mind leaving a dozen astronauts behind...they will probably make up something like they were returning on a shuttle and it exploded.
 
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