I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve
Merry Christmas!
Steve
Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
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Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Makes too much sense.
I was going to suggest several rails until I properly read your post.
But with a flat rail, you can get prodigious depression with Burris Signature Zee rings using their eccentric inserts. It's like extreme shimming, only without fear of binding or kinking your tube. Easier than my previous solution, shim/bedding the scope in the rings.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=712472
I think I got my shims individually (in pairs for 1 ring) for about $4 @ optics planet but I cant find them right now. Delivery was slow.
Makes too much sense.
I was going to suggest several rails until I properly read your post.
But with a flat rail, you can get prodigious depression with Burris Signature Zee rings using their eccentric inserts. It's like extreme shimming, only without fear of binding or kinking your tube. Easier than my previous solution, shim/bedding the scope in the rings.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=712472
I think I got my shims individually (in pairs for 1 ring) for about $4 @ optics planet but I cant find them right now. Delivery was slow.
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Here is an EGW Rail you could add;
http://egw-guns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=39_128&products_id=218
Here is an EGW Rail you could add;
http://egw-guns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=39_128&products_id=218
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Yeah, that or Rimfire Technologies.
But he says he wants an aftermarket receiver with integrated rail.
Yeah, that or Rimfire Technologies.
But he says he wants an aftermarket receiver with integrated rail.
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Not that I know of. You could go with one of the MOA receivers that use the threaded barrel (eliminating the possibility of barrel droop), and then install a 20 moa base. The MOA receivers also have an extra hold down screw in the rear of the receiver which helps in free floating the barrel. Here is the link to the receivers on the MOA website.
http://www.moaguns.com/rec10_22.html
Not that I know of. You could go with one of the MOA receivers that use the threaded barrel (eliminating the possibility of barrel droop), and then install a 20 moa base. The MOA receivers also have an extra hold down screw in the rear of the receiver which helps in free floating the barrel. Here is the link to the receivers on the MOA website.
http://www.moaguns.com/rec10_22.html
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Yeah, I would also like a base with about 40 or 50 moa for a 10/22.
-dan
Yeah, I would also like a base with about 40 or 50 moa for a 10/22.
-dan
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
I cured barrel droop by drilling and tapping a 8x32 hole in the V-Block to push up on the barrel. I was about 3in high from my previous zero after doing that.
I cured barrel droop by drilling and tapping a 8x32 hole in the V-Block to push up on the barrel. I was about 3in high from my previous zero after doing that.
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve </div></div>
Nope. Even the best high-end custom 10/22s' such as the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">L.H. Precision, LLC</span></span>, and after-market 10/22 receiver clones don't offer <span style="font-style: italic">built-in canted rails</span>. You can get receivers with built-in rails but so far they are all flat (0 degree) rails.
<span style="font-weight: bold">L.H.P.</span> manufactures a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Custom 10/22 Action</span></span>, which can be manufactured from <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Fortal aluminum</span></span>, chromoly steel, or stainless steel. You can get the receiver with rear lug or without, and a flat (zero) rail on top or the "plain" top to accept any base available for the 10/22. These billet-machined, CNC'ed actions are badass with a price to match - $799.00 for steel and aluminum and $849.00 for SS. I spoke to Larry Huettel (L.H.P. owner) and he said that all parts are proprietary, so Ruger and aftermarket parts will not fit the L.H.P. receiver or bolt or vice versa. They seem to be the ultimate 10/22 receiver, though. I spoke with Larry (L.H. Precision owner), and at the time he was only building full rifles - mostly magnums, but he will build a .22LR if you order it.
<span style="font-weight: bold">L.H. Precision Receiver with MOA-style rear lug and flat (zero cant) rail:</span>
The only other 10/22 receiver that incorporates a rear lug and is made of SS is the MOA Receiver. I built-up a custom "MOA 10/22" early this year. It uses an MOA 17-4 SS Receiver mated to a 19.25" Kidd barrel (threaded 3/4-16), Volquartsen CNC Bolt + CS Spring, Power Custom Guide Rod, Kidd Receiver Pins, and a Kidd Two-Stage Trigger. Sitting on top is an EGW Extended Picatinny Rail that I shortened to suit me. The action is bolted into a McMillan Sporter.
A 10/22 receiver with a built-in rear lug is really the way-to-go if you want to free-float the barrel, because the action needs more than the 10/22's single action screw on the front lug. Some people over at Rimfire Central have also pinned their receivers through stock towards the rear of the receiver. This less-than-ideal because the pin(s) can introduce lateral force and stress on the sides of the receiver as well as the somewhat thin sides of the stock.
<span style="font-weight: bold">EGW 20 MOA Extended Picatinny Rail on custom MOA 10/22 w/threaded Kidd barrel - no V-Block!</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Shortened EGW 20 MOA Extended Picatinny Rail & Falcon 4-14X 44 FFP on custom MOA 10/22 w/threaded Kidd barrel</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Tactical Solutions 15 MOA Picatinny Rail & Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14X 40 SFP on custom MOA 10/22 w/threaded Kidd barrel</span>
Keith
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve </div></div>
Nope. Even the best high-end custom 10/22s' such as the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">L.H. Precision, LLC</span></span>, and after-market 10/22 receiver clones don't offer <span style="font-style: italic">built-in canted rails</span>. You can get receivers with built-in rails but so far they are all flat (0 degree) rails.
<span style="font-weight: bold">L.H.P.</span> manufactures a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Custom 10/22 Action</span></span>, which can be manufactured from <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Fortal aluminum</span></span>, chromoly steel, or stainless steel. You can get the receiver with rear lug or without, and a flat (zero) rail on top or the "plain" top to accept any base available for the 10/22. These billet-machined, CNC'ed actions are badass with a price to match - $799.00 for steel and aluminum and $849.00 for SS. I spoke to Larry Huettel (L.H.P. owner) and he said that all parts are proprietary, so Ruger and aftermarket parts will not fit the L.H.P. receiver or bolt or vice versa. They seem to be the ultimate 10/22 receiver, though. I spoke with Larry (L.H. Precision owner), and at the time he was only building full rifles - mostly magnums, but he will build a .22LR if you order it.
<span style="font-weight: bold">L.H. Precision Receiver with MOA-style rear lug and flat (zero cant) rail:</span>
The only other 10/22 receiver that incorporates a rear lug and is made of SS is the MOA Receiver. I built-up a custom "MOA 10/22" early this year. It uses an MOA 17-4 SS Receiver mated to a 19.25" Kidd barrel (threaded 3/4-16), Volquartsen CNC Bolt + CS Spring, Power Custom Guide Rod, Kidd Receiver Pins, and a Kidd Two-Stage Trigger. Sitting on top is an EGW Extended Picatinny Rail that I shortened to suit me. The action is bolted into a McMillan Sporter.
A 10/22 receiver with a built-in rear lug is really the way-to-go if you want to free-float the barrel, because the action needs more than the 10/22's single action screw on the front lug. Some people over at Rimfire Central have also pinned their receivers through stock towards the rear of the receiver. This less-than-ideal because the pin(s) can introduce lateral force and stress on the sides of the receiver as well as the somewhat thin sides of the stock.
<span style="font-weight: bold">EGW 20 MOA Extended Picatinny Rail on custom MOA 10/22 w/threaded Kidd barrel - no V-Block!</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Shortened EGW 20 MOA Extended Picatinny Rail & Falcon 4-14X 44 FFP on custom MOA 10/22 w/threaded Kidd barrel</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Tactical Solutions 15 MOA Picatinny Rail & Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14X 40 SFP on custom MOA 10/22 w/threaded Kidd barrel</span>
Keith
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Check this guys out, if you don't mind a charging handle.
http://www.tacticalinc.com/ch22™-charging-handlebrreplacement-1022-receiver-p-1205.html
Check this guys out, if you don't mind a charging handle.
http://www.tacticalinc.com/ch22™-charging-handlebrreplacement-1022-receiver-p-1205.html
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hilbillee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not that I know of. You could go with one of the MOA receivers that use the threaded barrel (eliminating the possibility of barrel droop), and then install a 20 moa base.</div></div>
Now you're talking. Precision machining in combination with a threaded barrel-to-receiver connection not only eliminates barrel droop, but helps to ensure that the boltface and breech face are square, which not only helps accuracy but aids reiability. Precision machining beats clusterfuck work-arounds everytime.
You can build very accurate 10/22s' if the right work is well-executed. The uneducated and mis-informed will call BS on this, but the best 10/22s' are accurate enough to shoot with some highly thought-of bolt .22s'.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hilbillee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The MOA receivers also have an extra hold down screw in the rear of the receiver which helps in free floating the barrel. Here is the link to the receivers on the MOA website.
http://www.moaguns.com/rec10_22.html </div></div>
Yep. But the ultimate (but also most expensive) 10/22 receiver and action are built by <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">L.H. Precision, LLC</span></span>. See photo below of CNC'ed L.H. Precision custom 10/22 action with optional rear lug and Flat Picatinny Rail.
<span style="font-weight: bold">CNC-machined L.H. Precision Receiver with MOA-style rear lug and flat (zero cant) rail:</span>
And my custom "MOA 10/22" barreled action w/Kidd barrel (threaded 3/4-16), Volquartsen CNC Bolt + CS Spring, Power Custom Guide Rod, Kidd Receiver Pins, and a Kidd Two-Stage Trigger. Notice the absence of the V-Block (barrel attachment device). An EGW 20 MOA Extended Picatinny Rail is mounted on top:
Keith
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hilbillee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not that I know of. You could go with one of the MOA receivers that use the threaded barrel (eliminating the possibility of barrel droop), and then install a 20 moa base.</div></div>
Now you're talking. Precision machining in combination with a threaded barrel-to-receiver connection not only eliminates barrel droop, but helps to ensure that the boltface and breech face are square, which not only helps accuracy but aids reiability. Precision machining beats clusterfuck work-arounds everytime.
You can build very accurate 10/22s' if the right work is well-executed. The uneducated and mis-informed will call BS on this, but the best 10/22s' are accurate enough to shoot with some highly thought-of bolt .22s'.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hilbillee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The MOA receivers also have an extra hold down screw in the rear of the receiver which helps in free floating the barrel. Here is the link to the receivers on the MOA website.
http://www.moaguns.com/rec10_22.html </div></div>
Yep. But the ultimate (but also most expensive) 10/22 receiver and action are built by <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">L.H. Precision, LLC</span></span>. See photo below of CNC'ed L.H. Precision custom 10/22 action with optional rear lug and Flat Picatinny Rail.
<span style="font-weight: bold">CNC-machined L.H. Precision Receiver with MOA-style rear lug and flat (zero cant) rail:</span>
And my custom "MOA 10/22" barreled action w/Kidd barrel (threaded 3/4-16), Volquartsen CNC Bolt + CS Spring, Power Custom Guide Rod, Kidd Receiver Pins, and a Kidd Two-Stage Trigger. Notice the absence of the V-Block (barrel attachment device). An EGW 20 MOA Extended Picatinny Rail is mounted on top:
Keith
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Imurhuckleberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check this guys out, if you don't mind a charging handle.
http://www.tacticalinc.com/ch22™-charging-handlebrreplacement-1022-receiver-p-1205.html </div></div>
Unless they've come out with a 20 MOA version the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">CH22™ "CHARGING HANDLE" REPLACEMENT 10/22 RECEIVER</span></span> has a flat (0 MOA) rail. The OP was asking about a receiver with 20-25 MOA.
Nice try, although personally I consider the larger port a solution to a non-existent problem. The <span style="font-style: italic">"effective"</span> port size with the bolt open is no larger than the smaller port of the CH22 Receiver. I can see the CH22 going over with people who run the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Archangel Rifle System</span></span>.
Keith
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Imurhuckleberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check this guys out, if you don't mind a charging handle.
http://www.tacticalinc.com/ch22™-charging-handlebrreplacement-1022-receiver-p-1205.html </div></div>
Unless they've come out with a 20 MOA version the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">CH22™ "CHARGING HANDLE" REPLACEMENT 10/22 RECEIVER</span></span> has a flat (0 MOA) rail. The OP was asking about a receiver with 20-25 MOA.
Nice try, although personally I consider the larger port a solution to a non-existent problem. The <span style="font-style: italic">"effective"</span> port size with the bolt open is no larger than the smaller port of the CH22 Receiver. I can see the CH22 going over with people who run the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Archangel Rifle System</span></span>.
Keith
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve </div></div>
You can get your 20 MOA up adjustment by increaseing the pressure point at the front of the stock.
Here is how I did mine. Two Layers of electrical tape two inches long laid completely around the inside surface of the barrel channel. Quick, simple, cheap, works.
This actually raised my POI 8" at 25 yards (32 MOA).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a company making Ruger 10-22 receivers with a machined in integral scope rail with 20-25 MOA angle???
Merry Christmas!
Steve </div></div>
You can get your 20 MOA up adjustment by increaseing the pressure point at the front of the stock.
Here is how I did mine. Two Layers of electrical tape two inches long laid completely around the inside surface of the barrel channel. Quick, simple, cheap, works.
This actually raised my POI 8" at 25 yards (32 MOA).
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Thanks for all the info and pics guys.
Looks like there might be a niche in the 10-22 market for a dedicated long range receiver
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Steve
Thanks for all the info and pics guys.
Looks like there might be a niche in the 10-22 market for a dedicated long range receiver
Steve
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
Look at tactical inovations. They make an elite 22 receiver that I just ordered for a customer and he loves it. It has a 20 MOA rail.
Look at tactical inovations. They make an elite 22 receiver that I just ordered for a customer and he loves it. It has a 20 MOA rail.
Re: Is there a 10-22 reciever with 20 MOA
i was honestly shocked that a company called MOA offers none. surely one of these companies will be the first to offer one. they already have everything they need to make one but the cad program
i was honestly shocked that a company called MOA offers none. surely one of these companies will be the first to offer one. they already have everything they need to make one but the cad program
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