Rifle Scopes is this possible ?

[black_ump]

I have every now and then seen you guys claim you got a canted cross hair but i never really though it to be possible until i went out shooting today it was the first time this summer that i dropped some rounds i came home slightly upset at a few things and decided i would slide my scope back a tad bit more so my charging handle could clear the end of the scope.

i remember i made a post saying something about my rifle not being level or some crazy shit. well i leveled my rifle front to back and back to front its all square. then i put my arms mount on and leveled the bottoms of the rings all level the arms mount is level... then i put the scope on and leveled off the top turret its level looked threw the scope and the cross hair horizon doesnt seem level i always have to turn the rifle to the right to get it to "level" or look right

scope is a falcon menace 10x42 what do ya think ? send it back and let some one look at it or ????

advice please

 

[264win]

Re: is this possible ?

ive seen a number of scopes come apart internally , including the reticle rotating . if the turret is square to the scope , it sounds like you may need to send it back

 

[MinorDamage]

Re: is this possible ?

Looking through the scope is not always the best indicator of checking for reticle cant. When situated behind the rifle with proper eye relief, your eyes will sometimes do funny things. You can always place a plumb bob on the wall, level up the rifle/scope, and then do a cursory check. If the reticle is canted as far as you seem to think, it should show up. Also, some manufacturers allow a certain amount of cant to a reticle before calling it "unsat". Sometimes it is as much as 3 degrees which can present itself readily.

Josh

 

[black_ump]

Re: is this possible ?

so what your saying is i should hang a plum bob and then level my rifle out to see it the center line is straight with the string correct ?

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: is this possible ?

Most rifle butt pads are mounted with screws that line up vertically with the bore/scope mounting axis. If you can get the screws aligned with a plumb line, the rifle part is usually level enough. Some pad makers get cute and make the holes tiny, so the screwdriver needs to expand them on the way in. Put a toothpick or matchstick in each hole, they'll be visible then.

I then view a house with siding through the scope. I've installed a bunch of siding professionally, and can tell you it's a poor installer who doesn't line their laps up with a spirit level. If the pad screws are vertical, and the horizontal crosshair is parallel to the siding, you're at least as close as most folks can get. This method is based on direct evidence, and not on assumptions.

Using a level on knobs or knob caps is making a bet they are plumb with the reticle. An assumption. I wouldn't be willing to make that bet. Shims/blade guages and reticle housings? Same bet.

Greg

 

[black_ump]

Re: is this possible ?

the plumb bob doesnt lie... off just a wee wee bit i guess maybe that 3 degrees you all where talking about... it sux i already lock tight all the screws but oh well i will go threw it all again

 

[MinorDamage]

Re: is this possible ?

If the reticle is visibly canted and the scope is "level" you need to send it back for service. The issue is, even if you plumb the reticle, the adjustments will now be off by the degree of reticle cant. In other words, you will be adjusting a perfectly plumb reticle at an angle equal to that of the reticle cant. This will make it where the scope no longer adjusts straight up and down...or left and right for that matter. See what the scope company says.

Josh

 

[samnev]

Re: is this possible ?

Your right the plumb bob doesn't lie as long as the rifle is leveled. Been doing it that way for 30 years.

 

[black_ump]

Re: is this possible ?

its not canted, it was just me.... ( go figure )