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Rifle Scopes Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

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radmcg

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I don't know a lot about nightforce scopes but was thinking of putting one on my AR-10. Can the regular turrets be reset to zero after sighting in like USO number 3 etc? On the zero stop I understand you sight the scope in then set the zero set screw so you can't go past that zero ie 100 yards. Other than being able to return to zero by feel any other advantage?
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#2
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

You can zero out turrets after getting on target at your desired range.Zero stop is just as you said,only for the purpose of not going past your zero setting. Non zero stop scopes will have hash numbered lines under turrets so you have a reference point to base yourself from. It's up to you if you think the zero stop feature is worth $200-$250.
 
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Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

FWIW, I have 2 5.5-22x50's, one with zero stop and one without. I shoot quite a bit @ 600 yards and it is nice at the end of the day to just twist back to zero.

That being said, it is a small convience for the $, and I always look at the turrets anyway.

At longer yardages, where you will make more than 2 revolutions, I think it would be money well spent.
 
#5
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

I would recommend the zero stop if you plan to use the scope in rifle field matches. It is very easy to lose where your zero is and twist past it when shooting targets at different distances. I have both seen it happen to others and have done it myself when i owned a NF.
 
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Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

If you go with a compact NXS (e.g. 2.5-10X32) you will want it. Those turrets have no markings to indicate the number of turns and it sure sucks to go shooting out to 600-800 yards and put the rifle back in the case without remembering to reset it to zero.
 
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Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

USO #3 only offers a zero stop for the windage knob.

The #3 is both a good example and a bad example for the usefulness of a zero stop. On a windage knob, the stop means there is no way you can get off a full turn - no way.

The #3 though without a zero stop facilitates not getting off a turn because its clicks are close together, so you rarely turn it past a quarter turn one way or the other anyway.

I have #3s with and without the stop. The stop is nice, but they function the same with or without - unless someone effs with your rifle while you are not looking, then the non-zero stop can leave you in sad shape.

Elevation is a whole nuther deal. Leupold #1 turrets are a good example. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone get off a turn with those damned things. Unless you did the right thing and know your zero counted up from the bottom, you can lose a bunch of shots before you figure out what has happened.

An EREK and #3 windage with zero stop are good insurance against being off a turn, though if you try real hard you can still eff up the elevation with an EREK. Correcting yourself though is very easy.
 
#11
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

radmcg,
I think nightforce has allowed the dealers to discount the zero stop nxs models. When I ordered a new night force 2 weeks ago from euro optics the zero stop was the same price as the non zero stop so if the delta in price is holding you up it shouldn't be a factor if you can find what you want in stock.
 
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Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldgrayone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">radmcg,
I think nightforce has allowed the dealers to discount the zero stop nxs models. When I ordered a new night force 2 weeks ago from euro optics the zero stop was the same price as the non zero stop so if the delta in price is holding you up it shouldn't be a factor if you can find what you want in stock. </div></div>

I'm not positive, but I believe the discounted prices are for the standard knobs (10MOA/5MIL) as NF is now only issuing zero-stop scopes with the newer knobs (20MOA/10MIL). So get one while you can! Unless you really want the hi-speed knobs.
 
#13
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldgrayone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">radmcg,
I think nightforce has allowed the dealers to discount the zero stop nxs models. When I ordered a new night force 2 weeks ago from euro optics the zero stop was the same price as the non zero stop so if the delta in price is holding you up it shouldn't be a factor if you can find what you want in stock. </div></div>

I'm not positive, but I believe the discounted prices are for the standard knobs (10MOA/5MIL) as NF is now only issuing zero-stop scopes with the newer knobs (20MOA/10MIL). So get one while you can! Unless you really want the hi-speed knobs. </div></div>

That is correct.
 
#14
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

I picked up my NF 3.5-15x50 NXS mil-dot, mrad, zero-stop at a small discount a couple of weeks ago. It has the regular speed turrets. I am still keeping an eye on prices and many places seem to be discounting models with regular turrets if they are still in stock. I spoke to NF before buying mine and they confirmed that they are producing and shipping only high turrets now. I have not had the chance to mount and shoot with it yet, but did choose to go zero-stop route. It seems that anyone buying it new or used has zero-stop on their shopping list.
 
#15
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

I cannot count the number of times I have been out with shooting buddies who either did not reset their scopes to zero after the last session, or forgot where zero was, and wound up thinking something was wrong with the scope or rifle, when all they had to do was run the knob back to zero.

I have memorized where my non zero-stop NXS rests for zero, but I too have ended up one full revolution off on at least one or two occasions--usually from not paying attention.

I will be sending mine back for zero-stop and mil conversion(currently mil ret and MOA knobs).

In the mean time, I put a plastic washer under my turret cap, and that stops my knob about 2.5 MOA below zero, but it was a PIA to get to set up, and is not totally repeatable.
 
#16
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

Definitely worth it!! 427Cobra nailed it, its not required, but nice to have. Since you already spent close to $2k on a scope, why miss this feature? Plus, it maintains in the resell value "IF" you have to sell it later on.
 
#17
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

Worth it for sure. I don't see the need on a scope with 13 mils per turn, but certainly on a non hi-rev Nightforce it would be a good thing to have.
 
#18
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

Its not really worth the extra 200 dollars. You just need to know where you zero is. It should be on the 0 hash mark and just figure out which line it is one and twist it back down. It you are shooting in the dark then YES, You should buy it becuase you can just twist until it stops and you know right away you are on your zero. Do you plan to shot in the dark?
 
#20
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Worth it for sure. I don't see the need on a scope with 13 mils per turn, but certainly on a non hi-rev Nightforce it would be a good thing to have. </div></div>

One of my favorite designs is is the S&B PM-I 3-12 with the single turn, 14 mil elevation knob.
 
#21
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

Is it worth it? Absolutely! It's a feature you will use every time you crank the knobs, and when your dropping that kind of cash on a optic another $200 really isn't that much.
 
#22
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Required NO
Nice to have YES </div></div>

Yup.
I have had two times where I was one full rotation off, and of course as Mr Murphy does things, those were both days were I was shooting a match and doing very well otherwise (enough that one blown shot affected my day).

If scope do not have them available, I make something. If I cannot make one, I put the info on the scope.
 
#23
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

Depends on the scope and how often you are cranking on it. If it's like my IOR and has 10 mils per turn (and only goes 10 up, 10 down) then I don't see how it's worth it. I can never go fully around anyways. If it's a scope with say 5 mils/12-15MOA a turn and you are regularly shooting distance then I think it is worth it.
 
#24
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The world functioned just fine without zero stop for many years.</div></div> The world functioned fine without automobiles at one point also, but their is no reason to live in the stone age if you don't have to.
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You won't regret ponying up for a Z-stop model.
 
#26
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

On three of mine I have 40 MOA bases and I'm only about a lap and a half from the bottom.

Puts me almost half way to a new scope in the savings.....
 
#27
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doorkicker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The world functioned just fine without zero stop for many years.</div></div> The world functioned fine without automobiles at one point also, but their is no reason to live in the stone age if you don't have to.
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</div></div>The high-end optics industry lives not in the stone age but in the Medieval age. There are similarities between the modern production of high-end optics and the Japanese economic miracle of the 70's: the triumph of modern industrial practice on top of a Medieval system of organization. How else does one explain a $3400 Mil Dot scope that adjusts with MOA knobs.
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#28
Re: Is zero stop worth it on nightforce

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doorkicker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The world functioned just fine without zero stop for many years.</div></div> The world functioned fine without automobiles at one point also, but their is no reason to live in the stone age if you don't have to.
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</div></div>The high-end optics industry lives not in the stone age but in the Medieval age. There are similarities between the modern production of high-end optics and the Japanese economic miracle of the 70's: the triumph of modern industrial practice on top of a Medieval system of organization. How else does one explain a $3400 Mil Dot scope that adjusts with MOA knobs.
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</div></div> Well played sir...well played
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