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Israel/iran

This is just another facet of already ongoing WW3, mostly to curb BRICS from overtaking the west economically.
It will happen, but not without us throwing temper tantrums and getting a few million people killed.
It’s all about cutting oil flow to China.

Secondary, you can take that oil to Europe and impact Russia as a bonus.

This is the US play.

Israel has a different agenda.
 
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It’s all about cutting oil flow to China.

Secondary, you can take that oil to Europe and impact Russia as a bonus.
Or sell it to India instead of them buying more and more from Russia. Which if you look at the maps Netanyahu held up of the blessing and the curse, you'll see India included in the blessing. Right now, the West is pressuring India not to buy Iranian oil. Earlier in the year US sanctioned around 30 Indian companies for doing just that.

Also, it's about control over the flow to China while being able to profit from it, not stopping it, but having the ability to if they wanna start getting pushy, that has been a long term policy of the US and why we are so involved in the Middle East and why we should continue to be, if we don't others will. China, who gets a portion of their energy from Iran, which is basically US and Eu putting money back into the Ayatollahs pocket. BP, Shell, Exxon/Moble etc want that revenue.

Plus now it will keep them from fucking with two shipping choke point in the Gulf and Red Sea.

And on top of this Iran was 100% trying to make a nuclear bomb. There is no reason to enrich other wise. And why they would use it as a threat. And many of the reasons above are why this is happening.
 
I think for a nuclear free Middle East, Israel should be made to give up it's nuclear stockpiles (technology they stole from us btw), and for Iran to agree to not pursue nuclear weapons.

And both countries to agree to regular inspections to ensure they are not pursuing nuclear weapons.
kinda sounds like a fair deal but we really do not live in a fair world nor do i see israel warming up to the idea of no nuke weapons and the US will side with them .
 
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Removing both of those country's over there, would solve three issues at once,...
You really think that letting the Canaanites destroy The Little Satan will stop them from trying to destroy The Great Satan?

While the rest of the Arabs seem to finally accept that the Joos are going nowhere, the 12er Satanists do not and never will. Even after loosing the bulk of their technological military it will not dissuade what they see as a religious imperative. You can not use rationality to understand irrationality. You just have to accept it and act accordingly. Maybe 50 years of totalitarian indoctrination have not managed to turn the bulk of the Iranian people into terrorists like it has the Canaanites.
 
You really think that letting the Canaanites destroy The Little Satan will stop them from trying to destroy The Great Satan?

While the rest of the Arabs seem to finally accept that the Joos are going nowhere, the 12er Satanists do not and never will. Even after loosing the bulk of their technological military it will not dissuade what they see as a religious imperative. You can not use rationality to understand irrationality. You just have to accept it and act accordingly. Maybe 50 years of totalitarian indoctrination have not managed to turn the bulk of the Iranian people into terrorists like it has the Canaanites.
Considering we are the mothers of both, and some to many agree with post abortion, depending how the question is framed & fazed, Yes.
 
kinda sounds like a fair deal but we really do not live in a fair world nor do i see israel warming up to the idea of no nuke weapons and the US will side with them .

It's a pipe dream. It would never happen. But I think the Western world should push for it.

The biggest foreign threat to the USA is Israel. Not China or Russia, or North Korea. Israel.

They drag us into catastrophic regime change operations in the ME which turn into unwinnable "forever wars" at the cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. They are the largest recipient of US aid. They spend hundreds of billions influencing our elections, to the benefit of a foreign government. They spy on us, and one of the achievements from that is stealing our nuclear technology and illegally building a stockpile of nuclear weapons. They are the most provocative force in the ME, waging constant warfare against its neighbors.

Hell, the only country you can't legally criticize in the United States is Israel. We can criticize our own government, but it's illegal to criticize Israel. How messed up is that?
 
It's a pipe dream. It would never happen. But I think the Western world should push for it.

The biggest foreign threat to the USA is Israel. Not China or Russia, or North Korea. Israel.

They drag us into catastrophic regime change operations in the ME which turn into unwinnable "forever wars" at the cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. They are the largest recipient of US aid. They spend hundreds of billions influencing our elections, to the benefit of a foreign government. They spy on us, and one of the achievements from that is stealing our nuclear technology and illegally building a stockpile of nuclear weapons. They are the most provocative force in the ME, waging constant warfare against its neighbors.

Hell, the only country you can't legally criticize in the United States is Israel. We can criticize our own government, but it's illegal to criticize Israel. How messed up is that?
Well, it appears you just did.

When are you going to prison?
 
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Is this real or is this a psy op? The WOE guys are very plugged in and have hit a lot of nails On the head…. Their articles are top notch. Screw the Economist. I read WOE.

Again, does it matter if it’s true?

What matters is that it might be true.

And it is certainly technologically child’s play…

Sirhr
 
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We should have sent half the force right through Iran when we went into Iraq and the other half left and then double back up through Turkey. Give the Kurds and Armenians Turkey and then let Israel handle Lebanon and Palestine. What fun that would have been;)
 
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Actually, if you just got rid of Israel, 98% of the problems would clear up on their own. Back to tribes frighting tribes over chickenshit differences in Islam. And they'd stop hating us so much because we wouldnt be supporting Israel. Win/win

And fuck Bibi.
 
It's a pipe dream. It would never happen. But I think the Western world should push for it.

The biggest foreign threat to the USA is Israel. Not China or Russia, or North Korea. Israel.

They drag us into catastrophic regime change operations in the ME which turn into unwinnable "forever wars" at the cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. They are the largest recipient of US aid. They spend hundreds of billions influencing our elections, to the benefit of a foreign government. They spy on us, and one of the achievements from that is stealing our nuclear technology and illegally building a stockpile of nuclear weapons. They are the most provocative force in the ME, waging constant warfare against its neighbors.

Hell, the only country you can't legally criticize in the United States is Israel. We can criticize our own government, but it's illegal to criticize Israel. How messed up is that?
I'll criticize Israel right her right now. Brutal, murderous thugs who seek world domination by whatever means available.
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We should have sent half the force right through Iran when we went into Iraq and the other half left and then double back up through Turkey. Give the Kurds and Armenians Turkey and then let Israel handle Lebanon and Palestine. What fun that would have been;)
Goo plan. Turks have repeatedly fucked both the Kurds and Armenians.
 
One of the great ironies of this war is that it's allegedly being waged because a country who doesn't have nuclear weapons and is a member in good standing of the non-proliferation treaty, is being accused by a country that secretly has nukes and isn't part of the non-proliferation treaty of attempting to build nukes (with no evidence to back up that assertion and counter to US intelligence assessments).

Things that make you go 🤔
 
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One of the great ironies of this war is that it's allegedly being waged because a country who doesn't have nuclear weapons and is a member in good standing of the non-proliferation treaty, is being accused of a country that secretly has nukes and isn't part of the non-proliferation treaty of attempting to build nukes (with no evidence to back up that assertion and counter to US intelligence assessments).

Things that make you go 🤔
Like you said earlier, Israel is the biggest threat right now.
 
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