Israel/iran
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Israel has also been targeted from day one. Bombings, invasions, hijackings, mass shootings, kidnappings, embassies targeted, rockets, missiles, incursions…. 24x7x365 for 70 years ish.
We have one harbor bombed and we unleash Armageddon. A couple of buildings dropped and we go berserk.
If the ME left Israel alone and focused on their economies, the place would be an economic powerhouse and a paradise for everyone. But the a-rab shitheels are too backwards to think anything but tribal revenge.
TE Lawrence predicted it in a book on 1920. He was dead nuts right.
Belligerent? We have been worse than Israel
For 130+ years…. Trying to spread Jeffersonian democracy around the world. While claiming “we’re the guys who want to be left alone.” The Global Mrs. kravitz. Busybody do gooders.
Israel would not mess with anyone if everyone (including a ton of folks here in USA) weren’t an existential threat. But everyone is. Because everyone needs an enemy and for 3,000 years+ it’s been the Heebies.
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I agree that our foreign policy is unhinged. We are good bedfellows with Israel on that front.
We should have nothing to do with the ME. Israel can fight its own battles.
Supporting Israel in all of its wars and conflicts in the region is inherently against US interests. All the previous regime change wars we've fought on their behalf has been nothing but disastrous for us. Iran will be another one.
If Israel the welfare Queen wants to fight Iran, it can have at it. Just leave us the fuck out of it.
I do see the irony.
I don't think Iran is smart enough to have a nuclear arsenal.
But if you look at slices of our history some of our President's were so stupid they shouldn't have had a stapler within reach.
That's my take on some of them. That's internal to the US what do you think some of the rest of the world sees our competence leval at with Democrat clowns in charge every few years.
Luckily we have a semblance of checks and balances that I don't think exists in many countries.
At least I hope it's still in place having serviced delivery platforms and at times been on orders to guard tnw's.
It's a little unnerving.
I don't think Iran is smart enough to have a nuclear arsenal.
But if you look at slices of our history some of our President's were so stupid they shouldn't have had a stapler within reach.
That's my take on some of them. That's internal to the US what do you think some of the rest of the world sees our competence leval at with Democrat clowns in charge every few years.
Luckily we have a semblance of checks and balances that I don't think exists in many countries.
At least I hope it's still in place having serviced delivery platforms and at times been on orders to guard tnw's.
It's a little unnerving.
Have to get rid of the lobbyists first. Good luck with that; its the root of a majority of our problems. That and term limits.
I know.
The amount of foreign flags (Israel's) in the halls and offices of Congress and the Senate is sickening.
AIPAC spends hundreds of billions buying off politicians and influencing our politics for the gain of a foreign power.
How that's been allowed is absolutely disgraceful.
Bill Clinton's once-secret cable to Iran a reminder Tehran's terror killed hundreds of Americans
Toll from Tehran’s terrorism and proxy attacks are a serious factors in Trump’s decision on whether to support or even join the Israeli war effort.
justthenews.com
I think that thomas sowell may be correct, and that trying to negotiate peace with the current regime is like talking to a suicide bomber.
they simply want us to die more than they want to live. you can't reason with that.
they don't give a fuck.
now this doesn't mean that i support going to war or bombing this or that. my opinion or feelings don't mean shit.
i just hope that whatever happens doesn't involve me paying to kill a bunch of innocent persians.
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After toppling Saddam's regime I was at Bmt base watching one of my sons graduation ceremonies.
There was one person in my sons Squadron that stood out he was way older and didn't fit in .
My son called him over to talk .
Come to find out he was an Iraqi informant that had helped us in that conflict and to gain citizenship he was enlisted in our army.
He told me to pay attention because he had only one thing to say.
Tell your government " You must attack and destroy Iran" and he walked off.
There was one person in my sons Squadron that stood out he was way older and didn't fit in .
My son called him over to talk .
Come to find out he was an Iraqi informant that had helped us in that conflict and to gain citizenship he was enlisted in our army.
He told me to pay attention because he had only one thing to say.
Tell your government " You must attack and destroy Iran" and he walked off.
Israel needs to put boots on the ground in the area between Iraqi and Iran and take out the launchers. When the launchers come out of hiding hit them with identifiers and their planes or drones take them out. With no way to launch they will change their tune. Doesn't require the US. Let the ME kingdoms bring back the Iranian Monarchy, does not require the US. Let the new government destroy the nuclear facilities in exchange for economic trade. Stay the fuck out of it.
my questions remain the same.
how many Americans were killed at Tonkin as opposed to how many died on the Liberty? and yes,that the Liberty was an accident is just plain bull shit.
how many Persians were amongst the 9/11 hijackers as opposed to how many Saudis?
when Pakistan and NK (and Israel) were trying to join the nuc club,why were they not threatened with a massive bombing attack?
when/if the regime change planned for Iran goes down,which other terrorist outfit gets the prize? we have installed same in Iraq,Afganistan and Syria.
is working for Israel instead of the US by US citizens and officials treason like it would be if it were for Russia,China,India,Zambia,Monaco etc?
yes,yes,yes i know Iran is an enemy that hates us. is that a unique feeling on the planet? are they the only sworn enemy that hates us and actually has hidden terror cells in our borders? if we're gonna bomb everybody that hates us we really need to ramp up production.
So now we know why Matt Gaetz was not allowed in this administration.
Notice how several key Iranian govt & military figures were Iranian assets? Seems that we have a similar (and worse ) situation within our government and every other mechanism of control.
How do you figure the First Seal has been broken?
In that youre wrong, my friend. They have been an enemy for 3500 years. Read the story of what they did to the original inhabitants when they crossed the Jordan River. Nearly every place they go they make enemies. Their intent is global domination and will destroy the world trying to achieve that.
I have nothing against good, decent, compassionate Jewish folks, but Fuck the Israeli's.
BTW, did I say
FUCK THE ISRAELI'S
"Nearly every place they go they make enemies".........Wait, are you talking about Jews or females?
Real quick, look at the USA. There are weirdo trannies in our country do some radical shit. That doesn’t mean every American is a weirdo tranny. I assume you aren’t.
Fyi, you know the currier that led the US to Usama was Kuwaiti?
Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti - Wikipedia
These wacko islamic fundamentalist are not bound by lines drawn on a map by the British, they move through the entire area.
Being Saudi not da issue, ya should focus on. You aren’t a weirdo tranny are ya… like those other Americans I saw on TV??
Its somewhat interesting how they censor any missile impacts then bring all the MSM to show some neighboring building that got damaged in the blast . Of course snitching on your neighbour is name of the game
Prophet was a pedo whole muslim world stil practices that , remember US allies in Afghanistans had bunch of fuckboys in their bagage train
But its kinda like the whole house of AIPAC and Epstein list , no one got charged and loose ends got suicided
But its kinda like the whole house of AIPAC and Epstein list , no one got charged and loose ends got suicided
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>Tucker should get a TV network
Was he trying to remind everyone he's an out of touch 80 year old?
How dumb to think that they were looking to take over the world. I mean, honestly. HOLY FUCK HOW FUCKING STUPID
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true enough. the shah did as well. our regime change obsession has gotten us nothing over the last many years. Syria being the latest disaster leading to slaughter by the zealots we have installed. the hope that we will cut it out seems empty. not much dif between who we put in,who they replace,who removes them always adds up to big loses for most of the people in those countries. not getting us far with hearts and minds.
Intercepting a ballistic missile is EXTREMELY difficult. There's reason there has been development of PAC3, SM6, THAAD, David's Sling, Arrow 2/3, etc...and none of them guarantee hit-to-hit kills.
I saw a news story earlier today that about 10% of Iranian missiles have made impact. If that's accurate, 90% intercept rate is REALLY fuckin' good.
I saw a news story earlier today that about 10% of Iranian missiles have made impact. If that's accurate, 90% intercept rate is REALLY fuckin' good.
Israelis telling Fordow could be destroyed by boots on the ground , here we go full invasion. For non existing nuclear program according to all US intelligence agencies' assessment.
Following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, analysis of sites that had been attacked with bunker buster bombs revealed poor penetration and inadequate levels of destruction ,same in Kosovo
Trump told defense officials the U.S. should only strike Iran if the “bunker buster” bomb could definitively destroy the Fordow uranium enrichment site.
The effectiveness of the GBU-57 bunker-buster has been a source of ongoing debate at the Pentagon since the start of Trump’s presidency. Only a tactical nuclear weapon might be capable of destroying Iran’s deeply buried Fordow enrichment facility, according to officials.
Trump is not considering the use of a tactical nuclear weapon on Fordow, and the option was not presented during Situation Room meetings.
Defense officials were also told that completely destroying Fordow—which Israeli intelligence estimates to be buried as deep as 300 feet—would likely require first softening the ground with conventional bombs, followed by a tactical nuclear strike delivered by a B-2 bomber.
your slide to the usual juvenile insults is refreshing.Real quick, look at the USA. There are weirdo trannies in our country do some radical shit. That doesn’t mean every American is a weirdo tranny. I assume you aren’t.
Fyi, you know the currier that led the US to Usama was Kuwaiti?
Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
These wacko islamic fundamentalist are not bound by lines drawn on a map by the British, they move through the entire area.
Being Saudi not da issue, ya should focus on. You aren’t a weirdo tranny are ya… like those other Americans I saw on TV??
yes,terrorists know no map lines. that's why we call them non state actors. your seeming suggestion that we should bomb Iran and stay deeply committed to the ME to keep oil from China is not yours alone. how did that sort of thing work for us in 12/41?
still no answer on why we shouldn't have bombed Pakistan and NK when they were going nuc. Trump was working on NK and had a shot. the Dims sunk that in '20. Pakistan is as crazy as Iran,hates us as much. just more careful and subtle (smarter?). you can make a great point that we need to keep nucs away from Iran. the debate comes with how to do that.
the Liberty issue is going nowhere. those in power have no intention of dealing with it. they didn't in the past. if it was a deliberate attack,it will go into the JFK Epstein pile. if was truly an accident,then our rulers don't care enough to prove it to the serfs. we are expected to believe anything they say-covid ring a bell?
in toto a nuc free ME would be terrific,esp keeping them out of the most homicidal country there-Israel LOL. not much chance for Libya,Iraq,Syria,Jordan,the emirates,Qatar to acquire them. Egypt? no they're broke. Israel the most likely to use them 1st. they are pretty sure we wouldn't nuc them back. we need to stay in the ME? fuck no. let our good friend Israel protect us there.
the cheap way, is a tac nuke
the expensive NON nuclear way, is a telephone length pole, accelerated at high speeds from orbit....... just saying
The other route, is just DECLARE - imminent domain, and take 99% of IRAN for low income housing, and ship most of our prison population over there to help build the houses. Bacon and burgers for the workers.
seems like that could have dropped one on solid rock to see what it does or doesn't do by now.
speculation is that it may require at least 2 or more of them on top of each other.
seems the entrance and exists would be softer targets.
Hell with this it's too late.
Take this opportunity and change the regime at a minimum.
Take out every military asset .
Then do the moonwalk out.
Well Iran invasion would be much more costly than Iraq , the cheapest solution by far is cutting of Israel , let them fight their wars
According to US intelligence agencies?
That is laughable. Our intelligence agencies suck dick at foreign intelligence gathering. They concentrate solely on preventing the election of anyone who isn’t a totalitarian leftist in this country.
So if you’re aware they are none state actors, why you’re making it such a big deal about them being saudi.
Seems kind of contradictory
The rest of that stuff at the moment, I have no desire to Delve into. One topic at a time.
A good point.
Deport all our illegal aliens to Iran.
They will show them what goats are good for.
Barria, not sex.
Well Israelis have clearly been lying for 30+years and got US involved into number of wars based on those lies cost 50+k US casualtes and 3-8trillion $ depending on how you count it ,so what is the interest in repeating it again? Remember Donnie explicitly ran on not going to war with Iran in both terms.
Right now they have all the incentive to lie , as they can't finish what they started.
NETANYAHU’S FAMILY WAS HIT HARD
Netanyahu: “There are personal costs in war, my son even had to postpone his wedding”
not making a big deal about the Saudi citizens involvement in 9/11. you are making a big deal about an simple observation that our "friends" in the ME are not uniformly our friends. any direct Saudi involvement in 9/11 has never really come up. don't deal with my other questions as you will. not necessary. i am aware of the obsessive love for Israel present in a lot of places including congress,MIC,exec branch,CIA and the many Zionist fundamentalist Christians in this country. we'll see where that leads in the next few days or weeks. maybe Iran will be totally devastated,maybe not.
I find it interesting you don't take the time to capitalize letters at the start of sentences but do take the time to capitalize Saudi, MIC, CIA, Zionist and Christian.
Yet don't take the time to capitalize your pronoun.
Why?
Well Israelis have clearly been lying for 30+years and got US involved into number of wars based on those lies cost 50+k US casualtes and 3-8trillion $ depending on how you count it ,so what is the interest in repeating it again? Remember Donnie explicitly ran on not going to war with Iran in both terms.
Right now they have all the incentive to lie , as they can't finish what they started.
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NETANYAHU’S FAMILY WAS HIT HARD
Netanyahu: “There are personal costs in war, my son even had to postpone his wedding”
I’m not suggesting we get involved…. Unless there’s a huge amount of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ being paid to us by Israel.
I’m just point out that basing any decision off our intel agencies is totally laughable.
