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Israel and the USA does NOT want opposition groups to succeed in peacefully (or mostly peacefully) overthrowing the government and establishing a nice modern country that is at peace.

That would ruin the wet dreams and money laundering of the entire MIC and the ruling class in Israel and the USA.


They want a very expensive forever war that will last for like 10 or 20 years and take tons of time and blood and then eventually will end when something else more interesting to do with all the money comes up.
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Israel and the USA does NOT want opposition groups to succeed in peacefully (or mostly peacefully) overthrowing the government and establishing a nice modern country that is at peace.

That would ruin the wet dreams and money laundering of the entire MIC and the ruling class in Israel and the USA.


They want a very expensive forever war that will last for like 10 or 20 years and take tons of time and blood and then eventually will end when something else more interesting to do with all the money comes up.
You mean like all the money the U.S. taxpayer has been forced to spend by its crooked ass politicians and government since 911 on foreign nation wars/rebuilding and on arms bought from the MIC? Trillions and trillions, anyone know the actual number and how much it goes up every day? To me, 911 is when the whole scheme went on steroids.
 
You mean like all the money the U.S. taxpayer has been forced to spend by its crooked ass politicians and government since 911 on foreign nation wars/rebuilding and on arms bought from the MIC? Trillions and trillions, anyone know the actual number and how much it goes up every day? To me, 911 is when the whole scheme went on steroids.

9/11 was what was needed to move things along for the next phase.
The Cold War meant big $$$ Everybody loved that.
No big boogeyman = poors...

Yugoslavia was too quick and didn't give the $$$ high they wanted

Gulf War 1 gave them a taste that the sandwars could give them $$$$$$ and lots of raging wood.

But it ended kind of quickly and wasn't the forever war they needed, so they had to have 9/11 to kick start folks being willing to be stupidly jingoistic and spend like the next 30 years fighting a war on everyone around the world that doesn't like us...

Iran is just the next stage of the same forever war.
 
Was holed up here at the house catching up on some reloading, had the Dish Network TV on for some background noise. The shameless fucks were running commercials for donations for Israel because they were being attacked by those big meanie Iranians. You’d have thought it was all one sided aggression by the tone of the commercial.
 
9/11 was what was needed to move things along for the next phase.
The Cold War meant big $$$ Everybody loved that.
No big boogeyman = poors...

Yugoslavia was too quick and didn't give the $$$ high they wanted

Gulf War 1 gave them a taste that the sandwars could give them $$$$$$ and lots of raging wood.

But it ended kind of quickly and wasn't the forever war they needed, so they had to have 9/11 to kick start folks being willing to be stupidly jingoistic and spend like the next 30 years fighting a war on everyone around the world that doesn't like us...

Iran is just the next stage of the same forever war.

We are now on the final country of pre-planned wars that General Wesley Clark talks about:

 
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Was holed up here at the house catching up on some reloading, had the Dish Network TV on for some background noise. The shameless fucks were running commercials for donations for Israel because they were being attacked by those big meanie Iranians. You’d have thought it was all one sided aggression by the tone of the commercial.

Israel our welfare Queen crying for more money because they started a war they wanted.
 
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Was holed up here at the house catching up on some reloading, had the Dish Network TV on for some background noise. The shameless fucks were running commercials for donations for Israel because they were being attacked by those big meanie Iranians. You’d have thought it was all one sided aggression by the tone of the commercial.
TV/computer is filled with those types of pleas for help/go fund me from all sides . Some make me laugh while some make me very angry ....some i block/report but mostly SMH . In a few months it will be donations for iranian children starving .
 
We actually had an Iranian dude in my graduating class in HS (in the mid 70's). He wrote a statement on his yearbook page where he lamented a bit (was tired of explaining where he comes from) and everyone asking him things like who he was, what his name means and where he's from. He explains in that statement that his name is Persian, etc. and that they don't speak Arabic but "Persian" ("Farsi" actually).

Still, he concluded his statement by saying,



"And wasn't that ironic... don't you think...".

Iran is a modern country just like ours. They have the same freeways, shopping malls, movie theaters, hillbilly towns out in the sticks and shitty and incompetent government.

Was holed up here at the house catching up on some reloading, had the Dish Network TV on for some background noise. The shameless fucks were running commercials for donations for Israel because they were being attacked by those big meanie Iranians. You’d have thought it was all one sided aggression by the tone of the commercial.

Feel free to donate to the Muslim Refugees all you like:



Or just give to the Demoncrats via Actblue, then some of it will end up in the hands of Muslims after the trannies and illegals get their share:

www.actblue.com

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Asshole? - eh, whatever. I will say I'm amused that you see this as off topic. I am linking info that shows you one of the greatest hoaxes in any Boomer / Xer's life......that mimics much of what you see around you; you've spent the last several years here discussing events and happenings that you seem to think are siloed and not driven by the same crew. And I get an even bigger laugh. watching others bloviate about things they are so sure about, even though they personally have no reference, and by day are middle management in Retail or run a piece of equipment.

Me? I know I am in a cave being showed shadow puppets - but I am looking for the way out. It starts by understanding that what has been and what is currently going on around me, is bullshit orchestrated by a very small number of people who have been doing it for a very long time.

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I bet you expect me to read that.
 
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Hardly supprising but turns out Israelis has been selling bullshit in terms of their impact in Iran , first bloggers noted that IDF stream of hits on Iranian missile launchers included multiple takes or angles of same hit being presented as new on different days sometimes with some image filtering applied.


Now Bloomberg is publishing an article Nuclear sites are barely grazed and could be repaired in months!? Getting desperate to get US involved.



Purge continues ,alien parasite slowly taking over its host .

Gt-HGmdXMAAi5MC
 
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Hardly supprising but turns out Israeli has been selling bulshit in terms of their impact in Iran , first blogers noted that IDF stream of hits on Iranian missile launchers included multiple takes or angles of same hit being presented as new on . Now Bloomberg is publishing an article Nuclear siter are barely grazed and could be repaired in months!? Getting desperate to get US involved.



Purge continues ,alien overlord moves in.

Gt-HGmdXMAAi5MC
Reacted with sad face because true…
 
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Hardly supprising but turns out Israeli has been selling bulshit in terms of their impact in Iran , first blogers noted that IDF stream of hits on Iranian missile launchers included multiple takes or angles of same hit being presented as new on different days . Now Bloomberg is publishing an article Nuclear sites are barely grazed and could be repaired in months!? Getting desperate to get US involved.



Purge continues ,alien parasite slowly taking over its host .

Gt-HGmdXMAAi5MC
Many of the gun camera shots hitting targets in iran do look a little off/iffy....especially compared to hits in gaza where the buildings are hit with block b gone bombs . Could be BDA censorship but damn those hits on the parked tomcats should have been way more dramatic even the tractortrailer hits look almost like an UXB strike .
 
there is a fairly large persian community near me, which means decent persian grub.


it has always been hard to tell,since the 90s anyway,what really goes on in Iran and what their lives are really like. what is the real control of the radicals in charge? never have known. so much propaganda going both ways that who can really know unless you are there.
i do find it interesting that Trump has said he will wait 2 weeks to decide on his actions. saw a post on here quoting Putin as saying Russia had 250 nuc workers at 1 of the plants and was upping that to 600. maybe Trump decided that directly killing a bunch of Russians was a bad plan. it is. we have killed 1000s in Ukraine but our finger has not been directly on the trigger.
this mess isn't over by a long sight.
 
it has always been hard to tell,since the 90s anyway,what really goes on in Iran and what their lives are really like. what is the real control of the radicals in charge? never have known. so much propaganda going both ways that who can really know unless you are there.
i do find it interesting that Trump has said he will wait 2 weeks to decide on his actions. saw a post on here quoting Putin as saying Russia had 250 nuc workers at 1 of the plants and was upping that to 600. maybe Trump decided that directly killing a bunch of Russians was a bad plan. it is. we have killed 1000s in Ukraine but our finger has not been directly on the trigger.
this mess isn't over by a long sight.
i see no big negatives for waiting to see what israel can do on their own, and what the regime or the people might do.
at this point, i don't want to be involved unless or until iran attacks americans.
i think people that think we can drops some bombs and walk away might be high as a kite.
 
how will they know what has happened to all the fissionable materials?
I do not think they have the really really nasty stuff but what they can do is just dozer it over and put up signs saying no digging for 25k years and monitor it ....kinda like all the nuclear sunk subs.....do not hunt/fish/camp/anchor here .....ever
 
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if they have gpr that doesn't have to be on the ground...that would open up all kinds of secrets.
There are commercially available drone units but they can’t see very deep.
Dude they totally have aerial GPR. That’s how the stuff under the pyramids was discovered. But we can’t seem to fully map Antarctica or find those nazi bases under the ice.

/sarc/
Dude, the sercert Nazi bases are in Argentina not Antarctica.


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Asshole? - eh, whatever. I will say I'm amused that you see this as off topic. I am linking info that shows you one of the greatest hoaxes in any Boomer / Xer's life......that mimics much of what you see around you; you've spent the last several years here discussing events and happenings that you seem to think are siloed and not driven by the same crew. And I get an even bigger laugh. watching others bloviate about things they are so sure about, even though they personally have no reference, and by day are middle management in Retail or run a piece of equipment.

Me? I know I am in a cave being showed shadow puppets - but I am looking for the way out. It starts by understanding that what has been and what is currently going on around me, is bullshit orchestrated by a very small number of people who have been doing it for a very long time.

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First, dont try to have a reasonable discussion with him, he knows it all and that leaves little room for compromise.

Second- Ah, Plato's Cave and the Theory of Forms. What a magnificent piece of work.
 
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TBH, I'm not in favor of the destruction of Israel. For the simple reason that Christianity is based on Judaism and so many sites/artifacts, etc, that are meaningful to Christians are found in Israel. I want to go see them, once things cool down. It's the only place where I can actually see tangible evidence that go towards what the Bible wants me to take on faith. That said, there's another place I'd want to see, but that might be a much more Herculean effort. I want to visit Saudi Arabia to visit Jabal Maqla to see for myself it that really could be the "alternate" site for M. Sinai. I guess I'll have to wait for my passport to renew again after I visit Israel.
Their is no judeo in my Christianity- as a matter of fact I have it on Good authority that they are not His children because they don’t hear His voice
 
This whole thing (movement of the B2s) reminds me of this West Wing clip



Although I am a bit curious about Guam vs. some other base in Europe or North Africa. Is Iran closer to Guam? Or, maybe, it's a "Sneak around behind them" sort of thing.

right now the message is the B2 's are on the move , I bet the next flight of them will not be noticed until....."ally ark bark where the heck did that explosion come from " says a 37MM AA gun loader around fordow drinking coffee with his favorite goat
 
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Their is no judeo in my Christianity- as a matter of fact I have it on Good authority that they are not His children because they don’t hear His voice
You remind me of a college classmate of mine. She strongly believed that Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. Out of curiosity, I once asked her, "Well, if that's true, what's going to happen to all the Jews?" She replied rather coldly/"matter of factly," "Well... they're going to Hell!" Thank goodness we were talking alone on the outside of the campus where no one else heard us (the campus was, roughly 40% Jewish). I asked the same curious question to another classmate who I knew was a strong BAC. He made a habit of always sitting down at the cafe table after getting his meal, and very demonstratively saying grace... (ie. sliently, but with hands folded and head bowed demostratively, as kids are taught to do). It was clear to all what he was doing. No mistake. When he answered my question, at least he was a bit more "diplomatic" about it... ("Well, I don't know but, hopefully, God will work it out").

Trust me, I get it. I am fully aware of Christ's saying, "I am the way... the truth.. the light. No man commeth unto the Father, but by me." But remember, it was a Jew who said those words. I won't ever deny Judaism''s Historical link to Christianity. A link that, perhaps, is not as strong these days, but it's still there. Half of the Bible is about the Jews (Old Testament). The land where Jesus was born, raised and preached has significance to me. I want to see it, someday. Hopefully, it will strengthen my faith in Christ by being a witness to where he lived and worked.

And that is why I don't want it destroyed.
 
You remind me of a college classmate of mine. She strongly believed that Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. Out of curiosity, I once asked her, "Well, if that's true, what's going to happen to all the Jews?" She replied rather coldly/"matter of factly," "Well... they're going to Hell!" Thank goodness we were talking alone on the outside of the campus where no one else heard us (the campus was, roughly 40% Jewish). I asked the same curious question to another classmate who I knew was a strong BAC. He made a habit of always sitting down at the cafe table after getting his meal, and very demonstratively saying grace... (ie. sliently, but with hands folded and head bowed demostratively, as kids are taught to do). It was clear to all what he was doing. No mistake. When he answered my question, at least he was a bit more "diplomatic" about it... ("Well, I don't know but, hopefully, God will work it out").

Trust me, I get it. I am fully aware of Christ's saying, "I am the way... the truth.. the light. No man commeth unto the Father, but by me." But remember, it was a Jew who said those words. I won't ever deny Judaism''s Historical link to Christianity. A link that, perhaps, is not as strong these days, but it's still there. Half of the Bible is about the Jews (Old Testament). The land where Jesus was born, raised and preached has significance to me. I want to see it, someday. Hopefully, it will strengthen my faith in Christ by being a witness to where he lived and worked.

And that is why I don't want it destroyed.
i think i was in the same place until recently when i realized jews are trying to destroy christianity and the traditional family.
change my mind.

and i don't mean "all jews" or my jewish friends... i mean the power structure...media, porn, news and hollywood. soros, weinstein and company.
 
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I understand exactly what is going on.

"The price at the pump will fluctuate" NO SHIT. who the fuck do you think you are spewing shit like that.

When I was a child mowing lawns I could buy a gallon of gas for the mower and two tootsi rolls for a quarter. That 25 cents for your bumb ass.

When I got my licence to drive things happened in the ME and the fucking price jumped to 33 cents. Keep up here, that's a third of a US dollar.

Then before I enlisted the price went to 1/2 a dollar that's 50 cents if you can do the math, fuck head.

While I was stationed in the UK the price off base was a dollar a liter. I never knew what the fuck a liter was till then.

At the time didn't matter as it was the price to drive around and get some local pussy. Not that you would know anything about that iether.

In summation fuck off.
I know English is hard, given you've obviously gotten through life with a limited set of cognitive abilities, I applaud you.

One question, what did you mean by this? "It does not matter in the USA what happens in the ME as far as gas prices." That would lead me to believe that you think gas prices in the US aren't affected by the world oil market, is that right?
 
I know English is hard, given you've obviously gotten through life with a limited set of cognitive abilities, I applaud you.

One question, what did you mean by this? "It does not matter in the USA what happens in the ME as far as gas prices." That would lead me to believe that you think gas prices in the US aren't affected by the world oil market, is that right?
well, you would think that domestic energy producers would sell to americans at an affordable price before they raped foreign markets that cannot produce their own energy, but you point out the unfortunate truth. american companes will fuck over americans for a price. not all, but some.
 
i think i was in the same place until recently when i realized jews are trying to destroy christianity and the traditional family.
change my mind.

and i don't mean "all jews" or my jewish friends... i mean the power structure...media, porn, news and hollywood. soros, weinstein and company.

Do you think it's an "organized" effort, or are they just individuals doing their own thing?

Oh, and don't forget Marx.... :eek:
 
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Do you think it's an "organized" effort, or are they just individuals doing their own thing?

Oh, and don't forget Marx.... :eek:
Free market effect based on supply and demand. In that case you could argue it is "organized" because a choice is being made on how much companies are going to charge for the product BUT that price is being paid by the consumer. It is a pretty shitty cycle for US consumers and US produced oil. For comparison, gas costs $0.62/liter ($2.35/gallon) in Saudi. That could be done here in the us also.
 
Do you think it's an "organized" effort, or are they just individuals doing their own thing?

Oh, and don't forget Marx.... :eek:
obviously i don't blame them all, but my pattern recognition is triggered.
schumer, schiff, nadler, raskin, garland, blinken, mayorakas, soros...
what is driving them?
i cannot pretend to know.

the jewish friends i grew up with (i had my own dreidel) told me their messiah would not come until there was total peace on earth, or complete chaos and destruction. part of me thinks they are pushing for the latter by encouraging mass migration and islamic domination over white christian countries.

this guy is a true american hero.

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Some manufacturers with a product to sell, dual source or better the raw materials needed.

The oil refineries let thier profit driven, backup supply (domestic) become unprofitable to use here.

If they had maintained the ability to use light crude at a profit we would have not needed to get into all these ME wars, with our spilled blood and at great monetary expense.

We could just let all the goat fuckers kill each other at will and buy oil from the latest winner when it became expedient.

No need to gaf about any of them.


The assholes running the oil industry cost us lives and money.
And we sit like sheep and let them continue.

WTF
 
Free market effect based on supply and demand. In that case you could argue it is "organized" because a choice is being made on how much companies are going to charge for the product BUT that price is being paid by the consumer. It is a pretty shitty cycle for US consumers and US produced oil. For comparison, gas costs $0.62/liter ($2.35/gallon) in Saudi. That could be done here in the us also.
No

It is a shit ton cheaper to produce there. Like $5 a barrel in Saudi.

While wells here are anywhere from $30 to $50 or more per barrel or so.
 
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