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Ivan's done playing.

Why does that track suit look familiar???
He's just "sleeping".
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That is the Russian way. Many, many years ago they caught a guy raping a 10 yo boy. They took him to and old shack, nailed his dick to the floor with a 14 penny ring shank, gave him a dull rusty knife then set the shack on fire. After he cut his own dick off and walked out, they cut his balls off then slashed his belly & his guts fell out. The hogs ran off with his guts. The Russians left him for the hogs.

Not good enough…

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I wonder if he is holding a remote to the implant in that dude's ass. They ask him a question and he refuses to talk. Ivan squeezes the remote in his left hand and hadji squeals like Ned Beatty
That guys face already tells a story....he has nothing left to hide, hes praying for quick death right now.....he just wants it all to end!

Wishing he had just worn the suicide vest.
 
Word is they cut off the one guy’s ear and fed it to him already, the one with the bandage.

Middle Easterners still don’t get these messages though, and only escalate with retaliations back and forth.
 
After 9/11 I had a conversation with a very friendly but terrifying old Rusky that rarely spoke at all.

He advised we hang potential informants from chains on the ceiling next to each other in rows, walk in without saying a word and skin the first one alive.

He assured me that the rest of them would sing like canaries.

And I believe him.
Question- how do you skin them? In strips or in sections or capes, like Buffalo Bill?

Quid pro quo, Clarice. Quid pro quo.

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And it doesn't take much effort to really put the hurt on a SOB that deserved it. A single knife cut across the lower shin about an inch deep, then smear some soil from a farm hog enclosure onto the wound. Put him back into his cell and when that wound starts looking and smelling interesting and the hadji is starting to feverishly sweat and panic, let him know that he has roughly 5 more hours to divulge all the info and intel that is demanded from him. Do so and he gets powerful antibiotic cocktail and might not even need amputation. Refuse to answer or omit details and he is going to be left in his cell for the infection to spread untreated. Let's see even the toughest hadji refuse that offer LOLOLOL...
Shit I had a rooster a couple years ago that spurred me in the ankle bone and I was feeling like that by the next morning. I had the highest fever of my life and I was borderline delirious
 
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Waiting to read the first news story over here or out of Europe on how the terrorists’ human rights have been violated. Written by some self important lefty author who might think that any Russian (even those opposed to Putin) GAF.

Those boys were terribly misguided about where they were and must’ve been horribly optimistic about getting out alive. Whoever didn’t bother to tell them to eat the last round had a cruel sense of humor.
 

Moscow Terror Attack Suspects Hauled Before Court, One Literally Unconscious​


Nah he was just getting some beauty sleep
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While the defense might think its a great idea ,i imagine if one walked out of the court room he would not make it far.



How much ya wanna bet that the guard in the lower pic has several Cold Steel Safemaker I's and II's or similar push daggers on his person which he is just itching to repeatedly jam and twist into these scum if they even made one wrong move? 😂
 
I think you don’t get it. You’re operating on premises that are simply not reality.

The CIA isn’t competent enough to get bags of AKs and HE placed for shooters to pick up and use in Moscow, for starters.

Even the older Cold Warriors wouldn’t do something that stupid, since it doesn’t produce any beneficial effects for anyone.
So you are under the assumption that the CIA could not pull the planning/planting off.
Got it.
You have seriously deep seated issues with the CIA.
Got it.

If you are naive enough to think that an intelligent and motivated 16 year old kid couldn't plan this shit and then place the supplies to do it, man you need to get out more.
Not to make it sound like a pun, but it would be childs play.

But alas, my post was meant to be jest, and that flew right over your head so fast and far you never even heard the sonic boom.
 
So you are under the assumption that the CIA could not pull the planning/planting off.
Got it.
You have seriously deep seated issues with the CIA.
Got it.

If you are naive enough to think that an intelligent and motivated 16 year old kid couldn't plan this shit and then place the supplies to do it, man you need to get out more.
Not to make it sound like a pun, but it would be childs play.

But alas, my post was meant to be jest, and that flew right over your head so fast and far you never even heard the sonic boom.
If you’ve ever lived in Russia, you would understand that obtaining AKs, tons of mags, and explosives is something that requires access to military supply lines, either inside or outside of the country. The primary means for doing that are through terrorist organizations or Russian organized crime, which is really run by the Oligarchs, military, and police.

Especially under Biden (who has been a Soviet mole in the Senate since 1973 before becoming VP under Obama), the CIA leadership is currently stacked with pro-Russian plants who are trying to not look like Russian plants. The Soviets saturated the CIA with assets from its inception. This is regardless of any of our perspectives on it, just the historical truth about how it was formed.

A 16yr-old could plan this, but doesn’t have the connections for the logistics to make it happen.

A lot of you who are inexperienced and not well-traveled or read, don’t have any clue about the history, let alone the basic roadmap of any of these topics. Trying to peer through a phone or screen to gain perspective is an artificial reality with tons of layers of manipulation built into the system, so you have no ground truth perspective from which to make any sense of it all.
 
Shit I had a rooster a couple years ago that spurred me in the ankle bone and I was feeling like that by the next morning. I had the highest fever of my life and I was borderline delirious
Would that be the definition of a cock bite?
 
none of this is hard to believe. sucks to say that russian (our enemy since 1917) info is more believable than most US sources,at least mainstream ones.
When the CIA wanted to counter the Russian IOJ (International Propaganda front) with Mockingbird in the late 1940s, Russian moles at senior levels in the CIA reported back to Moscow that the silly Yankees were trying to get into the propaganda game against them, then they laughed and hijacked Mockingbird, turned it against the US from within the CIA with guys like Walter Cronkite, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, and Anderson Cooper. Mockingbird worked by feeding stories to “journalists”, but it was supposed to be pro-US stories to counter all the IOJ anti-US garbage being spewed out of Prague and through the puppets in European, Central American, and Asian media.

This also worked in concert with their AGITPROP in the universities, especially journalism programs and PoliSci retard professors drunk on Marx without even reading Marx or Engels thoroughly, but who were fully onboard with the international communism/worker’s party movement.

But the idea that Russian internal propaganda is believable is preposterous on its face if you’ve ever seen it. It is devised for a child-like peasant mind, common in Russia. Even a low-IQ person in the US would laugh at it, it’s so bad.

Remember Pravda saying how the Moskva sank due to rough seas, just as an example.

I wouldn’t ever praise Russian propaganda in public if I wanted to be taken seriously.
 
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When the CIA wanted to counter the Russian IOJ (International Propaganda front) with Mockingbird in the late 1940s, Russian moles at senior levels in the CIA reported back to Moscow that the silly Yankees were trying to get into the propaganda game against them, then they laughed and hijacked Mockingbird, turned it against the US from within the CIA with guys like Walter Cronkite, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, and Anderson Cooper. Mockingbird worked by feeding stories to “journalists”, but it was supposed to be pro-US stories to counter all the IOJ anti-US garbage being spewed out of Prague and through the puppets in European, Central American, and Asian media.

This also worked in concert with their AGITPROP in the universities, especially journalism programs and PoliSci retard professors drunk on Marx without even reading Marx or Engels thoroughly, but who were fully onboard with the international communism/worker’s party movement.

But the idea that Russian internal propaganda is believable is preposterous on its face if you’ve ever seen it. It is devised for a child-like peasant mind, common in Russia. Even a low-IQ person in the US would launch at it, it’s so bad.

Remember Pravda saying how the Moskva sank due to rough seas, just as an example.

I wouldn’t ever praise Russian propaganda in public if I wanted to be taken seriously.
point being,i wouldn't take anything from our or european mainstream media seriously either. i that vein russian BS is as or more likely to contain some realism. but,who can know?
 
At this point... I'm not sure who the enemy is. Or who this "we" is.
Part of ideological warfare is creating chaos, confusion, disunity, and distractions so the prime actor spewing the lies can maneuver.

From the Russian intelligentsia perspective (an old and dying breed from the Cold War), they are a 1000yr-old civilization who see themselves as infinitely-experienced and bigger than the infantile US, who barely has emerged on the geopolitical chessboard within the past few hundred years (having spent the first 100 years relatively isolated).

On the one hand, their instinct is to not take the US seriously and be dismissive, while also being forced to accept that most of the technology in their country came from the US dating back to the Tsarist times, and our command of the global trade routes is indisputable.

They genuinely believe their weapons, equipment, and resolve is superior, but are annoyed at the power and influence the US has over other countries in their periphery.

Since they have infused generations of moles and assets into the US and other nations for centuries, it’s hard for many to discern who your countrymen are from traitors when you are young and have been indoctrinated by communists/socialists within our schooling system from Kindergarten-forward.

As an adult, being fed anti-US sentiment from the establishment media really creates a cognitive crisis in the observer, so most people just tune out because it’s too much to process. It’s one of the main reasons why we have so much voter apathy in the US (lack of participation in elections).
 
OK. doesn't have any weight but here is my take on and timeline of this whole affair.
russia sold us alaska at a good price turns out
some real hostility over the sea otter market
not much interaction until 1917 when we entered ww1
lenin takes over and russia is easily described as an enemy. undermining and trying to damage us begins.
intervention in murmansk and vladivostoc. not much done in a real sense. effective intervention was declined by the west.
europe was wrecked by ww1 and there was a real pandemic going on.
stalin takes over and slaughters millions. ww2 starts in europe.
hitler invades and is beaten at high cost in russ deaths with very much help from us. espionage and subversion by soviets continues thru 80s.
vietnam and afganistan involvement by russia.
russai/sov union tanks in 89. a point could be made that we mishandled the results of that.
huge corruption ensues. ultimately putin takes over. soviet style communism is about finished in russia.
nato stays hostile but agreements are in place to keep it off russia's border.
that is ignored. putin invades like he said he would. i believe our response is generated by protecting biden corruption,MIC profit seeking and neocon insanity,which i fail to understand.
russia IS an enemy,always will be. so is china,no.korea,iran,most of muslim world. i don't think a hot war with any of them will be a good thing.
if we could maintain our overwhelming power (that's gone) and neutrality (that's gone),we can trade with hostile players and keep them at arms length in west hemisphere. trump did have the beginnings of a rational foreign policy going.
we have no business or gain by screwing around in europe,africa and prob asia. spendin 60+++ billions we don't have to appease those 3 groups is part of our ultimate and i fear inevitable destruction.

sorry,lot of words.
 
Part of ideological warfare is creating chaos, confusion, disunity, and distractions so the prime actor spewing the lies can maneuver.

From the Russian intelligentsia perspective (an old and dying breed from the Cold War), they are a 1000yr-old civilization who see themselves as infinitely-experienced and bigger than the infantile US, who barely has emerged on the geopolitical chessboard within the past few hundred years (having spent the first 100 years relatively isolated).

On the one hand, their instinct is to not take the US seriously and be dismissive, while also being forced to accept that most of the technology in their country came from the US dating back to the Tsarist times, and our command of the global trade routes is indisputable.

They genuinely believe their weapons, equipment, and resolve is superior, but are annoyed at the power and influence the US has over other countries in their periphery.

Since they have infused generations of moles and assets into the US and other nations for centuries, it’s hard for many to discern who your countrymen are from traitors when you are young and have been indoctrinated by communists/socialists within our schooling system from Kindergarten-forward.

As an adult, being fed anti-US sentiment from the establishment media really creates a cognitive crisis in the observer, so most people just tune out because it’s too much to process. It’s one of the main reasons why we have so much voter apathy in the US (lack of participation in elections).
i don't see anything outrageous in this, and i can also see how people might avoid feeling responsible for the things the government does with their taxes by ignoring anything about those activities. hey, there's a sportsball game on!!

i don't know about moles and assets...i don't think these people are assets. i think they are straight up traitors.

 
They got what they deserved.

If the punishment here was more severe, we wouldn't have nearly the issues we do in the USA
 
OK. doesn't have any weight but here is my take on and timeline of this whole affair.
russia sold us alaska at a good price turns out
some real hostility over the sea otter market
not much interaction until 1917 when we entered ww1
lenin takes over and russia is easily described as an enemy. undermining and trying to damage us begins.
intervention in murmansk and vladivostoc. not much done in a real sense. effective intervention was declined by the west.
europe was wrecked by ww1 and there was a real pandemic going on.
stalin takes over and slaughters millions. ww2 starts in europe.
hitler invades and is beaten at high cost in russ deaths with very much help from us. espionage and subversion by soviets continues thru 80s.
vietnam and afganistan involvement by russia.
russai/sov union tanks in 89. a point could be made that we mishandled the results of that.
huge corruption ensues. ultimately putin takes over. soviet style communism is about finished in russia.
nato stays hostile but agreements are in place to keep it off russia's border.
that is ignored. putin invades like he said he would. i believe our response is generated by protecting biden corruption,MIC profit seeking and neocon insanity,which i fail to understand.
russia IS an enemy,always will be. so is china,no.korea,iran,most of muslim world. i don't think a hot war with any of them will be a good thing.
if we could maintain our overwhelming power (that's gone) and neutrality (that's gone),we can trade with hostile players and keep them at arms length in west hemisphere. trump did have the beginnings of a rational foreign policy going.
we have no business or gain by screwing around in europe,africa and prob asia. spendin 60+++ billions we don't have to appease those 3 groups is part of our ultimate and i fear inevitable destruction.

sorry,lot of words.
US-Russian relations even back then were sparse at-best, because Russia is so geographically-isolated and not well-established into the trade routes as a result. It’s also extremely cold there with no deep water sea ports, and the only warm ports are in Krim (Crimea).

Britain, France, and later the US were allies with Tsarist Russia during the Great War.

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The Germans backed a Russian revolutionary in exile named Vladimir Lenin, who had been living in Switzerland after escaping from Siberia, and was a provocateur who pitted people against each other effectively. He was given transit pass by the German high command because they knew that if he fomented the revolution in Russia, it would weaken the large Russian Army in Central Europe due to a need for the Tsar to focus on his strategic rear and internal security.

Between academics and politicians in the US at the time, there was already a major ideological divide between Marxists and Capitalists. The Russian Revolution didn’t happen overnight, as it became the Russian Civil War lasting into the early 1930s by some accounts, but surely from 1917-1923. This was between the Russian nationalists who fought to save Russia from the communist Bolsheviks, one of the 3 main periods in Russian history where there was chaos and no clear leadership.

Lenin and Stalin presided over the mass-murder of millions of Russians, and when Stalin assumed command after Lenin’s death, he expanded the murder campaign, to include arbitrary death quotas across the various oblasts of Russia. He also ordered the repression against the Russian farming families, the Kulaks, as well as the Ukrainians with the Holodomor, an artificial famine that was one of the worst genocides of the 20th Century.

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Stalin conspired with Hitler via the Molotov-Ribbontrop Pact in August of 1939 to divide Europe in a war they planned in advance, which commenced with their dual-invasion of Poland and the Slovak Republic in September, 1939. Stalin then invaded Finland on 30 Nov, 1939. This triggered WWII in Europe. There was also a covert campaign to penetrate the US diplomatic and political circles to build up support for Russia via subversion and coercion.

Russia still was not an enemy to the US, but an ally at that point and throughout WWII. In fact, the US provided Russia with billions worth of war material in Lend Lease to fight Nazi Germany and their invasion of Ukraine and Russia. Russia would have been overrun had it not been for Lend-Lease from the US.

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One existential threat that Stalin saw for Russia was the US’s Manhattan Project and our creation of the first successful atomic weapons program. This was heavily-seeded with Soviet moles who passed technical data back to Moscow via rat lines out of Los Alamos, as several of the scientists had been assisted in escaping Progroms in Europe by Russia into the US.

It was an imperative for Russia to also get the bomb, and a combination of traitors in the State Dept, FDR’s White House, and the scientific community passed along the critical developments and precursor technologies to Stalin so that Russia could demonstrate capability in 1949.

Russia adopted a very hostile attitude towards the US because of their lust for conquering Central Europe and its prized sea ports, and ideology of Marxism-Leninism, casting capitalism as a great evil to the people’s revolution. Despite international scientific attempts to build relationships of trust, like with the International Geophysical Year, Soviet Russia exploited these agreements to foment a new arms and space race.

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They hated the fact that we blocked them from taking over Europe in the wake of the vacuum of the Reich’s collapse. Because of the inherent failures of Marxist and communist political-economic theory and utter mismanagement of the Soviet economies, of course the USSR collapsed and that collapse has not ceased. It’s more like a snowball effect rather than a singular event.

During the later Soviet times, from 1962-forward, they had a subversive program that used political action fronts in the West to prop-up major and minor candidates wherever possible. One such front was called Council for a Livable World, with has helped over 420 US politicians get elected, ranging from Congressmen to Presidents.

They financed the hopeless political campaign of a pedophile in 1972 in Delaware, hoping to unseat the incumbent since DE is such a small State and the money goes much farther in places with less turnout. They were able to get their pedophile stooge into the Senate in Delaware that year, and have cashed-in on him many times since with treasure troves of influence and exploitation.

He continued to be an asset for them throughout the 1980s, negotiating on their behalf in the US Senate for SALT II and other nuclear weapons bans that got rid of thousands of US warheads and delivery systems, while the Soviets tried to produce as many as they could. Once the USSR collapsed, he continued to be an asset through the program because he was compromised anyway, and worked to make sure Russia’s neighbors were weakened during the 1990s, especially Ukraine.

Once Putin took over in 2000, he began to plot for the Russian resurgence, and manipulated these stooges to help him with that effort. Using Obama as a Senator, he came in on the tail end of Nunn-Lugar to try to classify conventional artillery warheads in Ukraine as WMD, which would help prepare Ukraine for takeover by Putin at a later date.

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Once Putin lost his puppet in Kiev, Yanukovych, one of his Oligarch sex-trafficking billionaires wired $3.5 million to the pedophile traitor’s son’s shell company, which was also headed by the US Secretary of State’s stepson.

The Russian asset and mole all these years is none other than Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., and the no-show son running the front companies is Hunter Biden. The then SECSTATE’s stepson was Chris Heinz.

The purpose of putting Hunter Biden into Ukraine was to act as an insurance policy against investigations into the money laundering vehicle that was Burisma, when Putin-Yanukovych-Zlochevsky controlled it. With the new Ukrainian President Poroshenko, Burisma became vulnerable to records-searching that Putin could no longer control.

There is something about Burisma that was damning enough to get the high-level Russian asset in US government to compromise himself and his family by being involved with Burisma. They tried to assassinate the Chief Prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, at least twice. When that didn’t work, Biden was sent in by Obama to demand that Poroshenko fire him, or else Ukraine would not get $1 Billion.

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Biden’s history as a Russian asset is long and well-documented. It isn’t like the intelligence agencies didn’t notice, but because there are so many high-level moles in the system, good dudes have been threatened with violation of NDAs because of the sources and methods used to monitor international monetary traffic are quite sensitive and guarded by the NSA and FBI.

That story about Biden’s brother James is a great clue in proving that they have been under surveillance for decades.
 
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If you’ve ever lived in Russia, you would understand that obtaining AKs, tons of mags, and explosives is something that requires access to military supply lines, either inside or outside of the country. The primary means for doing that are through terrorist organizations or Russian organized crime, which is really run by the Oligarchs, military, and police.

Especially under Biden (who has been a Soviet mole in the Senate since 1973 before becoming VP under Obama), the CIA leadership is currently stacked with pro-Russian plants who are trying to not look like Russian plants. The Soviets saturated the CIA with assets from its inception. This is regardless of any of our perspectives on it, just the historical truth about how it was formed.

A 16yr-old could plan this, but doesn’t have the connections for the logistics to make it happen.

A lot of you who are inexperienced and not well-traveled or read, don’t have any clue about the history, let alone the basic roadmap of any of these topics. Trying to peer through a phone or screen to gain perspective is an artificial reality with tons of layers of manipulation built into the system, so you have no ground truth perspective from which to make any sense of it all.
It doesn't help when Russia willingly uses social media to their advantage.
They create twitter and Facebook accounts posing as Americans and use these accounts to sow division amongst us.

Boomers log on and see a maga hat in the profile picture and then believe everything that account posts as facts.
Same for far left people.
 
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i don't see anything outrageous in this, and i can also see how people might avoid feeling responsible for the things the government does with their taxes by ignoring anything about those activities. hey, there's a sportsball game on!!

i don't know about moles and assets...i don't think these people are assets. i think they are straight up traitors.


Since Russia has almost no trade with the US, they have leaned heavily on political subversion for the past 90 years. There aren’t any of the normal common ground connections in-place from which to build and maintain a relationship, so they went full court press with saturation attacks with moles and subterfuge. They already had plenty of willing ideological assets from communists, socialists, and union types back in the early 1900s. Remember that Russia is largely driven by Asiatic culture regarding foreign affairs, with all the fronts, layers, and webs of deception to throw opponents off-base.

I agree on that list. Look at the last names.
 
JakeM you are indeed all knowing since you know what everyone of a certain age does,sees and believes. you are probably all powerful as well. only you can see the truth of these issues using your deep knowledge of facebook and ability to know all.
 
It doesn't help when Russia willingly uses social media to their advantage.
They create twitter and Facebook accounts posing as Americans and use these accounts to sow division amongst us.

Boomers log on and see a maga hat in the profile picture and then believe everything that account posts as facts.
Same for far left people.
They have been very effective at convincing a lot of younger guys that Putin is great, Ukraine is bad, America = globohomos, demoralization, destabilization, always deflecting away from the fact that Putin ordered this invasion.

Russian assets were so focused on attacking the American family, Christian faith, and core social structures during the Cold War through their leftists in the institutions of learning and media as part of a large strategy of ideological warfare, but now critique the US for social norm departures they largely fomented.

It’s all they have though.

We should also be averse to praising them for their brutality and torture, even though mass-murderers deserve no quarter. But Russia has been at the forefront of mass-murder throughout its history, so this is like the pot calling the kettle black. They are a very cruel people though with no compassion or empathy for other human beings. It is distinct between them and Eastern Europe.
 
you are indeed all knowing since you know what everyone of a certain age does,sees and believes. you are probably all powerful as well. only you can see the truth of these issues using your deep knowledge of facebook and ability to know all.
This is called a hyperbole argument. Have you ever lived in Russia?

It’s not like other countries I have lived in or traveled through. I’m not on Facebook, won’t support Zuckerberg.
 
It doesn't help when Russia willingly uses social media to their advantage.
They create twitter and Facebook accounts posing as Americans and use these accounts to sow division amongst us.

Boomers log on and see a maga hat in the profile picture and then believe everything that account posts as facts.
Same for far left people.
meant the ass posting before you. but,you seem to maintain that the CURRENT attack on family,church and our society is putin pushed . yes,i am well aware that it is a long standing effort. the main points i seem to see here are: 1) the huge wasted amount sent to defeat russia on the ground; 2) the very real risk of a larger war for no real threat to america's interest; 3) the fact that biden/obama regime is doing this when it's own actions have been shown to be what you say the russians continue to do. kinda an enemy of my enemy is my friend deal,correct or not. soviet union was definitely a player in our culture's ongoing destruction. IMHO the chinese have taken over that task. i doubt putin is dumb enough to believe that he is going to or needs to destroy our society. it's a done deal. thanks to the dem hard left,MICs x 3 and the unconscious nature of the american citizens. he didn't create the fed and it's malignant incompetence,open the southern border,invent the grooming industry,weaponize the courts or attack the bill of rights.
 
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They have been very effective at convincing a lot of younger guys that Putin is great, Ukraine is bad, America = globohomos, demoralization, destabilization, always deflecting away from the fact that Putin ordered this invasion.

Russian assets were so focused on attacking the American family, Christian faith, and core social structures during the Cold War through their leftists in the institutions of learning and media as part of a large strategy of ideological warfare, but now critique the US for social norm departures they largely fomented.

It’s all they have though.

We should also be averse to praising them for their brutality and torture, even though mass-murderers deserve no quarter. But Russia has been at the forefront of mass-murder throughout its history, so this is like the pot calling the kettle black. They are a very cruel people though with no compassion or empathy for other human beings. It is distinct between them and Eastern Europe.
The boomer is strong in this one.
 
This is called a hyperbole argument. Have you ever lived in Russia?

It’s not like other countries I have lived in or traveled through. I’m not on Facebook, won’t support Zuckerberg.
Does Russia have lbgtqrstuvexyz parades down their streets, does Russia have drag queers reading to kids, does Russia have everyone telling us white people that we are the devil, does Russia have negros killing whites enmasse and face no punishments, does Russia have a illegal alien problem, my vote for president here would count as much as it does there.

They are sounding a bit better each and every day. Putin may be an ass, but he beats Biden everyday of the week.

So what if we get trump for 4 more years, this is his last time in office, if they allow him in. Then what, the rest of my life with people like Biden on steroids running this country?

I went to war a few times, and for what to watch my country be destroyed from within? To watch these freeloaders, vote for more "freebies"? To watch our non-existent southern border be over run by people who hate us and just want freebies......no thanks.

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meant the ass posting before you. but,you seem to maintain that the CURRENT attack on family,church and our society is putin pushed . yes,i am well aware that it is a long standing effort. the main points i seem to see here are: 1) the huge wasted amount sent to defeat russia on the ground; 2) the very real risk of a larger war for no real threat to america's interest; 3) the fact that biden/obama regime is doing this when it's own actions have been shown to be what you say the russians continue to do. kinda an enemy of my enemy is my friend deal,correct or not. soviet union was definitely a player in our culture's ongoing destruction. IMHO the chinese have taken over that task. i doubt putin is dumb enough to believe that he is going to or needs to destroy our society. it's a done deal. thanks to the dem hard left,MICs x 3 and the unconscious nature of the american citizens. he didn't create the fed and it's malignant incompetence,open the southern border,invent the grooming industry,weaponize the courts or attack the bill of rights.
Marxism was always anti-family, pro-proletariat state, where villages would raise the children and parents are just birthing people.

Karl Marx had fundamental problems with his family as he chose atheism and hatred for his Jewish kin, but magically showed up at funerals expecting his inheritance. He was a complete dirtbag maggot-infested hippie type.

The official state religion in the Soviet Union was atheism. They burned so many Russian Orthodox Churches down and executed the clergy, because they were seen (correctly) as state institutions of the Tsar dating back to when Peter made them a functionary of the state in 1721 if I recall.

In the old American Left, who date back to the 1800s, they embraced Marxism and bought into the idea that the Soviets were doing it better. These ideas were very popular among academics and politicians, to include those who crafted our schooling system.

They saw traditional Christian families as the enemy of progress, and hijacked their terminology to "page-shift" kids of each generation further and further over to secular humanism, Darwinism, and atheism.

This pre-dates all of us and even our grandparents.

Putin was a late-comer to the Soviet Ideological Warfare campaign trenets, which were already well in-motion. He was primarily focused on recruiting and managing illegal assets in East Germany, but as a registered legal KGB officer. The Ideological Warfare operations were driven out of different branches in the KGB, focusing on fake media stories, propaganda, recruiting college professors, and penetrating foreign services senior ranks. He was never good enough for illegal work, but was trusted to operate in East Germany.

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Once he became a Deputy PM in Yeltsin’s Russia and then the President, he would have become more familiar with the parallel activities run by the Soviet era KGB, and now SVR. They have had a brain-drain since the Soviet times, but ideological warfare is designed to be self-sustaining once you recruit or agitate enough useful idiots. It specifically targets high emotionally-influenced people like women and college students to act as soldiers for whatever campaign is being managed.

Think SDS from the 1960s, or BLM today, the environmental and animal rights activists with no brains, all heart, the ANTIFAgs, and people like AOC who are easily manipulated with minimal information.

One of the pillars to Soviet Ideological Warfare was harnessing the Civil Rights movement in the US to foment division and rioting, with the plans to incite a race war. They have been trying to do this for generations. They specialize in identifying marginalized groups in the targeted nation, agitating them, then pointing them at strong elements of the society that they see as long-term threats.

This is the game they have played since they could never face the US in active combat and they knew it. Russia could never launch something like Desert Storm, for example.
 
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Does Russia have lbgtqrstuvexyz parades down their streets, does Russia have drag queers reading to kids, does Russia have everyone telling us white people that we are the devil, does Russia have negros killing whites enmasse and face no punishments, does Russia have a illegal alien problem, my vote for president here would count as much as it does there.

They are sounding a bit better each and every day. Putin may be an ass, but he beats Biden everyday of the week.

So what if we get trump for 4 more years, this is his last time in office, if they allow him in. Then what, the rest of my life with people like Biden on steroids running this country?

I went to war a few times, and for what to watch my country be destroyed from within? To watch these freeloaders, vote for more "freebies"? To watch our non-existent southern border be over run by people who hate us and just want freebies......no thanks.

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Russia just murders people that fall outside of the peasant class if they step out of line, but they have actively supported the deviant lifestyle people in the US as a way of attacking our core strengths from within, since we are an open society.

Russia does have a massive illegal alien problem, namely from Central Asian Republics like Tajikistan, but then they rely on Tajiks for cheap labor. I saw this personally day-to-day there. You know you’re sucking when you have to move to Russian to make money doing labor under the table.

Biden is a traitor to the US who the Russians paid for to get into the Senate in 1972, so yeah, he’s meant to be a wrench in our gears. He was perfect for them since he’s a pedophile, as you don’t have to bribe Pedophiles with as much money as your typical Clinton philanderers. The Clintons charge a lot more for their treason than the Bidens.

Our main problem in the US is that we have turned away from our foundational principles and allowed men who work in secret to get gain to take over our government. That was effectively done in the 1920s with organized crime and never cleaned out. The Eastern cities were already rampant with mob bosses running elections since the 1840s, which became the SOP for the Democrat party when fixing mayoral elections in NYC, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, etc.

We allowed Marxists and atheists to set up a mandatory church that all children must attend for K-12, where they are taught Marxism, Darwinism, atheism, anti-US principles, "Founders were slave-owners”, America bad, socialism good. As long as parents were slaving away in 2 jobs and comfortable when they came home to plop down in front of TV, they were OK with it.
 
Damn, there is no excuse for your point of view then. We Gen X are supposed to be less gullible than that.
Can you point out some specific things where you disagree with me or think I’m in error?

I’ve been tracking Senator Biden as a Russian asset since the 1980s, and learned that he was recruited already in the early 1970s. His conduct throughout his political career only makes sense in that light and no other.

Biden in Soviet Russia 1979
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The Putin worship is really contradictory if you go through the Panama Papers and look at the timeline of Russian bribery payments to the Clintons, John Kerry, and Biden. Obama used them as intermediaries to pay him of course, with layers of willing idiots to launder the payments.

For example, when Elena Baturina wired $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca, keep in mind that money is from human sex trafficking. She and her husband became billionaires from that industry. In order to be a billionaire oligarch in Russia, you have to pay the big guy, which is Putin. That’s how the system has worked there for centuries.

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It also gives you insight into why Putin was so motivated to get Biden family members on the board of Burisma in 2014 when Biden was VP under comrade Obama, so he could block the impending investigation into Burisma’s money-laundering activities, as well as Ukraine’s plans to extract oil and NG from Kharkiv and the new fields off the coast of Odessa.

Who was Burisma laundering money for? They were an obscure energy company at the time.

What did Hunter and Joe Biden do once Hunter was on the board collecting $87k/month? They blocked the investigation by Viktor Shokin, who was appointed by Poroshenko. Russia then tried to assassinate Shokin twice until he went into hiding after Biden got him fired.

Putin directly and indirectly has been cashing-in on the sale of human beings from Russia and Ukraine for decades, mainly young females who are forced into selling their bodies to pay off their “owners”.

That’s one of the reasons why he was able to build his massive palace near Sochi. Of course he charges the oligarchs huge cuts from their profits at Gazprom and Rosneft, but the human-trafficking still generates billions of dollars worth of revenue.

Hope For Justice updated their global human-trafficking revenue figures to $245 Billion annually as of 2022. Russia and Ukraine have been some of the most sought-after sources for girls due to their genotypes, to be sold as slaves into the sex industry. International pimps buy them and put them to work in brothels, underground film outfits run by slime bags, as escorts who have to work off their debts, or into forced marriages/sex slaves for the ultra wealthy.

There is nothing to really admire about Putin or Biden. They are both verifiably some of the most evil men on the earth.
 
we just need for Russia to end this by overwhelming the ukies and putting as many in the ground as possible. Russia needs to go full Russia and stop fking around
 
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we just need for Russia to end this by overwhelming the ukies and putting as many in the ground as possible. Russia needs to go full Russia and stop fking around
What influenced you to side with the Russians on this? Just curious.
 
Russia just murders people that fall outside of the peasant class if they step out of line, but they have actively supported the deviant lifestyle people in the US as a way of attacking our core strengths from within, since we are an open society.

Russia does have a massive illegal alien problem, namely from Central Asian Republics like Tajikistan, but then they rely on Tajiks for cheap labor. I saw this personally day-to-day there. You know you’re sucking when you have to move to Russian to make money doing labor under the table.

Biden is a traitor to the US who the Russians paid for to get into the Senate in 1972, so yeah, he’s meant to be a wrench in our gears. He was perfect for them since he’s a pedophile, as you don’t have to bribe Pedophiles with as much money as your typical Clinton philanderers. The Clintons charge a lot more for their treason than the Bidens.

Our main problem in the US is that we have turned away from our foundational principles and allowed men who work in secret to get gain to take over our government. That was effectively done in the 1920s with organized crime and never cleaned out. The Eastern cities were already rampant with mob bosses running elections since the 1840s, which became the SOP for the Democrat party when fixing mayoral elections in NYC, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, etc.

We allowed Marxists and atheists to set up a mandatory church that all children must attend for K-12, where they are taught Marxism, Darwinism, atheism, anti-US principles, "Founders were slave-owners”, America bad, socialism good. As long as parents were slaving away in 2 jobs and comfortable when they came home to plop down in front of TV, they were OK with it.
Have you not seen the politicized armed men going to people's houses here in America????

Ruby Ridge, Waco ring a bell.

We have people jailed from 6 JAN 2020, that still haven't had a trial.

We have priests being arrested for holding services during COVID while the BLM crew was a given a green light to commit terrorism in the name of protesting by the government (so in essence, the government killed those people).

We have illegals killing American citizens en masse(again greenlighted by the government).

Just because they are two times removed, doesn't make them innocent in any way, shape or form.

How much do we pay in taxes here, just for it to be handed to someone overseas.

The FBI is censuring speech left and right with what the current regime deems "harmful".

They just passed a law to ban Tik Tok.....however in that bill, it states they can ban ANY website or app they deem "harmful"(that would never be abused)

This is NOT America anymore. We have become a tax farm for the rest of the world, while we live under the guise of freedom.

Try not paying your property taxes, you will see how quickly the .gov will murder you.

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Have you not seen the politicized armed men going to people's houses here in America????

Ruby Ridge, Waco ring a bell.

We have people jailed from 6 JAN 2020, that still haven't had a trial.

We have priests being arrested for holding services during COVID while the BLM crew was a given a green light to commit terrorism in the name of protesting by the government (so in essence, the government killed those people).

We have illegals killing American citizens en masse(again greenlighted by the government).

Just because they are two times removed, doesn't make them innocent in any way, shape or form.

How much do we pay in taxes here, just for it to be handed to someone overseas.

The FBI is censuring speech left and right with what the current regime deems "harmful".

They just passed a law to ban Tik Tok.....however in that bill, it states they can ban ANY website or app they deem "harmful"(that would never be abused)

This is NOT America anymore. We have become a tax farm for the rest of the world, while we live under the guise of freedom.

Try not paying your property taxes, you will see how quickly the .gov will murder you.

Doc
I agree with all of that, but what does it have to do with Russia, other than they were behind the destabilization campaign of Ideological Warfare that has led to much of the above?

The Soviets co-opted and saturated the FBI with moles for the last century. That is the norm for any Asiatic political entity.

“Pyotr! The Yankees allowed Mafia to form secret police in US led by faggot Director Hoover with his husband as assistant director! This is going to be so fun!"

Tolson & Hoover (lived together as common-law husbands for decades until Hoover’s death in 1972).
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BLM is literally the modern-day Weather Underground, which was also a violent front of SDS. BLM and ANTIFA are the modern versions of those organizations, filled with stupid kids who don’t even see how they are being manipulated.

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All of this is because our ancestors turned their backs on God, and allowed their Children to be indoctrinated in anti-christ churches called public school and media for the last century.

Our only way out is by turning back to God.
 
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Our country is circling the drain thanks to leftist idealogy. I don't put a lot of faith in our courts or institutions to protect our freedoms and constitutional rights. I wish we had a leader who protected our culture, history and traditions instead of attacking them. Say what you will about Putin, but I don't see him openly undermining the security of his own country. Biden has opened our borders and let in god knows who many terrorists, criminals and other bad actors. I'd much rather have a strong, patriotic leader like Putin than our own cognitively impaired president who doesn't know who he is half the time.
 
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