The four legged kind!
"It was the sound of a wailing cat that first caught the neighbor's attention."
"It was the sound of a wailing cat that first caught the neighbor's attention."
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How did this guy ever get caught??? He was so hush-hush about the whole thing. And what the F@CK is that dudes problem?? Cats... taste like chicken, too!?
How did this guy ever get caught??? He was so hush-hush about the whole thing. And what the F@CK is that dudes problem?? Cats... taste like chicken, too!?
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Sounds like he was doing the neighborhood a favor by catching all the stray cats.
Sounds like he was doing the neighborhood a favor by catching all the stray cats.
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Living in the burbs and eating cats. There has to be more to this story. He is either a sick-o practicing for his Jeff Dahmer degree, or some other weird fetish. If he was just eating them, then why not just smack-em in the head like any other game.
People these days.
Living in the burbs and eating cats. There has to be more to this story. He is either a sick-o practicing for his Jeff Dahmer degree, or some other weird fetish. If he was just eating them, then why not just smack-em in the head like any other game.
People these days.
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thats fucking stupid - starve the assholes who think thats wrong then hand them a kitten / knife and see what happens - its a god damn animal end of story - eat it
only problem i could see with this is if he was killing them wontonly for fun - i cant stand that shit
or maybe trespassing to kill kids pets thats not cool either but for fucks sake if it was chickens would he be in trouble? fucking shit just pisses me off.......if you couldnt tell..........
thats fucking stupid - starve the assholes who think thats wrong then hand them a kitten / knife and see what happens - its a god damn animal end of story - eat it
only problem i could see with this is if he was killing them wontonly for fun - i cant stand that shit
or maybe trespassing to kill kids pets thats not cool either but for fucks sake if it was chickens would he be in trouble? fucking shit just pisses me off.......if you couldnt tell..........
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Intrepid4576</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats fucking stupid - starve the assholes who think thats wrong then hand them a kitten / knife and see what happens - its a god damn animal end of story - eat it</div></div>
Remind me to avoid Chinese food in NEPA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Intrepid4576</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats fucking stupid - starve the assholes who think thats wrong then hand them a kitten / knife and see what happens - its a god damn animal end of story - eat it</div></div>
Remind me to avoid Chinese food in NEPA.
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I could understand someone being upset about it if it was their pet, but other than that, I'm not totally sure what the problem is.
I grew up in real chinese areas and lets just say there was never a stray animal problem & never any difficulty in giving away young milk fed puppies and kittens that were extra. They would have thought spay/neuter on pets was as stupid as trying to give birth control pills to deer (just hunt / eat more of them). Strangely enough most pets seemed to figure out really quickly that saying in their own property during the day was a really good idea.
I think way too many people have no clue about the food chain. Your cat will eat your pet bird without a second thought and a hungry dog may eat your cat without a second thought either.
Kind of like the idiots who are all upset about horses being eaten because they are such majestic.... bs...etc... I guess glue and the rendering factory is a much more noble end?
I could understand someone being upset about it if it was their pet, but other than that, I'm not totally sure what the problem is.
I grew up in real chinese areas and lets just say there was never a stray animal problem & never any difficulty in giving away young milk fed puppies and kittens that were extra. They would have thought spay/neuter on pets was as stupid as trying to give birth control pills to deer (just hunt / eat more of them). Strangely enough most pets seemed to figure out really quickly that saying in their own property during the day was a really good idea.
I think way too many people have no clue about the food chain. Your cat will eat your pet bird without a second thought and a hungry dog may eat your cat without a second thought either.
Kind of like the idiots who are all upset about horses being eaten because they are such majestic.... bs...etc... I guess glue and the rendering factory is a much more noble end?
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every thing is good with a little salt..JK
every thing is good with a little salt..JK
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Intrepid4576</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats fucking stupid - starve the assholes who think thats wrong then hand them a kitten / knife and see what happens - its a god damn animal end of story - eat it</div></div>
Remind me to avoid Chinese food in NEPA. </div></div>
lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Intrepid4576</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats fucking stupid - starve the assholes who think thats wrong then hand them a kitten / knife and see what happens - its a god damn animal end of story - eat it</div></div>
Remind me to avoid Chinese food in NEPA. </div></div>
lol
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he should have kept his little operation quiet...
being sloppy about shit always gets you pinched...
why was the critter still alive as he was pulling meat off, as silly as this may sound, i think most neighbors can do without an animal wailling in terror because its alive when its backstrap is being removed...
he wont fair so well in front of a judge...
he should have kept his little operation quiet...
being sloppy about shit always gets you pinched...
why was the critter still alive as he was pulling meat off, as silly as this may sound, i think most neighbors can do without an animal wailling in terror because its alive when its backstrap is being removed...
he wont fair so well in front of a judge...
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what a winner. As for those savages in the picture I hope they choke to death on a bone.
what a winner. As for those savages in the picture I hope they choke to death on a bone.
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Don't forget how much better the story sounds if he was cutting them up alive, helps make the guy sound disturbed and dangerous instead of just hungry. If he was truly torturing cats then that is disgusting. If he was simply slaughtering to eat them that is another. Decapitation is a very acceptable method of slaughter. It isn't pretty and I believe a stunning blow beforehand, will be better for the meat quality, but some aren't very well versed in proper meat handling techniques.
He should have been a bit more quiet but I wasn't there. Here is what I bet was happening:
Nieghbor hears cat screaming, she runs to her fence and sees demented guy that keeps to himself and is very quiet(automatically making him suspicious) cutting up a "house" cat. She assumes that the cutting was making the cat scream, that image is burned into her brain and no one can remove it.
What really happened:
Guy that happens to think cats are delicious(which they are by the way), sets a box trap for all the damn untagged, collarless stray cats running around his nieghborhood. He catches one and takes it out of the trap with a noose because he knows even a scratch can mean some kind of disease. The cat is obviously screaming his ass off until he wacks it over the head to stun and then decapitates thus bleeding the cat which is advisable in good butchering.
I contend that the nosy assed nieghbor is not telling the story exactly as it happened. Do you know how hard it would be to cut a live cat down the back? How do you do that? Enlighten me if you can. I want to see the man who can hold a cat in one hand and butcher it with the other while it screams and flails a whirling dervish of claws and rage.......yeah right.
This story is mostly bullshit but I am sure the guy will probably fare worse than a child molester when it is all said and done. People put far too much value on animals and not enough on humans.
Don't forget how much better the story sounds if he was cutting them up alive, helps make the guy sound disturbed and dangerous instead of just hungry. If he was truly torturing cats then that is disgusting. If he was simply slaughtering to eat them that is another. Decapitation is a very acceptable method of slaughter. It isn't pretty and I believe a stunning blow beforehand, will be better for the meat quality, but some aren't very well versed in proper meat handling techniques.
He should have been a bit more quiet but I wasn't there. Here is what I bet was happening:
Nieghbor hears cat screaming, she runs to her fence and sees demented guy that keeps to himself and is very quiet(automatically making him suspicious) cutting up a "house" cat. She assumes that the cutting was making the cat scream, that image is burned into her brain and no one can remove it.
What really happened:
Guy that happens to think cats are delicious(which they are by the way), sets a box trap for all the damn untagged, collarless stray cats running around his nieghborhood. He catches one and takes it out of the trap with a noose because he knows even a scratch can mean some kind of disease. The cat is obviously screaming his ass off until he wacks it over the head to stun and then decapitates thus bleeding the cat which is advisable in good butchering.
I contend that the nosy assed nieghbor is not telling the story exactly as it happened. Do you know how hard it would be to cut a live cat down the back? How do you do that? Enlighten me if you can. I want to see the man who can hold a cat in one hand and butcher it with the other while it screams and flails a whirling dervish of claws and rage.......yeah right.
This story is mostly bullshit but I am sure the guy will probably fare worse than a child molester when it is all said and done. People put far too much value on animals and not enough on humans.
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armorpl8chikn said:Don't forget how much better the story sounds if he was cutting them up alive, helps make the guy sound disturbed and dangerous instead of just hungry. If he was truly torturing cats then that is disgusting. If he was simply slaughtering to eat them that is another. Decapitation is a very acceptable method of slaughter. It isn't pretty and I believe a stunning blow beforehand, will be better for the meat quality, but some aren't very well versed in proper meat handling techniques.
He should have been a bit more quiet but I wasn't there. Here is what I bet was happening:
Nieghbor hears cat screaming, she runs to her fence and sees demented guy that keeps to himself and is very quiet(automatically making him suspicious) cutting up a "house" cat. She assumes that the cutting was making the cat scream, that image is burned into her brain and no one can remove it.
What really happened:
Guy that happens to think cats are delicious(which they are by the way), sets a box trap for all the damn untagged, collarless stray cats running around his nieghborhood. He catches one and takes it out of the trap with a noose because he knows even a scratch can mean some kind of disease. The cat is obviously screaming his ass off until he wacks it over the head to stun and then decapitates thus bleeding the cat which is advisable in good butchering.
I contend that the nosy assed nieghbor is not telling the story exactly as it happened. Do you know how hard it would be to cut a live cat down the back? How do you do that? Enlighten me if you can. I want to see the man who can hold a cat in one hand and butcher it with the other while it screams and flails a whirling dervish of claws and rage.......yeah right.
This story is mostly bullshit but I am sure the guy will probably fare worse than a child molester when it is all said and done. People put far too much value on animals and not enough on humans. [/quote
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Holeey dog shit!!! that got me laughing...good gracious!
Perfect timing/execution maggot...
-Pat
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot One of these makes the job much easier.
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Holeey dog shit!!! that got me laughing...good gracious!
Perfect timing/execution maggot...
-Pat
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot One of these makes the job much easier.
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some people would rather talk than eat young dog.......
some people would rather talk than eat young dog.......
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I heard this story when it first came out, and my thoughts were; remember when they made animal cruelty a felony? now everytime some cat or dog or horse or somebodies pet rabbit gets eaten by someone who may have not gone about it the best way is going to go to prison. NOT that I am in favor of cruelty, but like others have said, its just a cat, if it is killed humanely and eaten, I could care less. But what's next? when somebody arrows the neighborhood deer that old widow Johnson loves to feed apples to on Sundee morning and get his picture taken with all the kids, is there going to be a class action lawsuit to have the bowhunter stripped of his rights and thrown into jail? Because he was our pet?
I heard this story when it first came out, and my thoughts were; remember when they made animal cruelty a felony? now everytime some cat or dog or horse or somebodies pet rabbit gets eaten by someone who may have not gone about it the best way is going to go to prison. NOT that I am in favor of cruelty, but like others have said, its just a cat, if it is killed humanely and eaten, I could care less. But what's next? when somebody arrows the neighborhood deer that old widow Johnson loves to feed apples to on Sundee morning and get his picture taken with all the kids, is there going to be a class action lawsuit to have the bowhunter stripped of his rights and thrown into jail? Because he was our pet?
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he was seen skinning the cat alive. I'd say that was cruelty. I'd say anyone with half a brain and an idea of how to use it would do as well.
Koreans like to beat their dogs to get adrenaline into the bloodstream and muscle because they think it makes the meat taste better. Now before I get the knuckle draggers yelling PETA this and that, I know this because 1. I've been to Korea, was at a restaurant where dog was on the menu and the fuckwit waiter told me that's how they prepare the meat. 2. Good buddy is Korean and said 'yup, that's how they roll.'
That ok with you all?
I don't care if the animal's going to end up for dinner, but I see someone skinning a dog, cat or gerbil alive or beating the hell out of it, they're getting fed their teeth as their first course.
he was seen skinning the cat alive. I'd say that was cruelty. I'd say anyone with half a brain and an idea of how to use it would do as well.
Koreans like to beat their dogs to get adrenaline into the bloodstream and muscle because they think it makes the meat taste better. Now before I get the knuckle draggers yelling PETA this and that, I know this because 1. I've been to Korea, was at a restaurant where dog was on the menu and the fuckwit waiter told me that's how they prepare the meat. 2. Good buddy is Korean and said 'yup, that's how they roll.'
That ok with you all?
I don't care if the animal's going to end up for dinner, but I see someone skinning a dog, cat or gerbil alive or beating the hell out of it, they're getting fed their teeth as their first course.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I don't care if the animal's going to end up for dinner, but I see someone skinning a dog, cat or gerbil alive or beating the hell out of it, they're getting fed their teeth as their first course.
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I can agree with that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I don't care if the animal's going to end up for dinner, but I see someone skinning a dog, cat or gerbil alive or beating the hell out of it, they're getting fed their teeth as their first course.
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I can agree with that.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he was seen skinning the cat alive. I'd say that was cruelty. I'd say anyone with half a brain and an idea of how to use it would do as well.
Koreans like to beat their dogs to get adrenaline into the bloodstream and muscle because they think it makes the meat taste better. Now before I get the knuckle draggers yelling PETA this and that, I know this because 1. I've been to Korea, was at a restaurant where dog was on the menu and the fuckwit waiter told me that's how they prepare the meat. 2. Good buddy is Korean and said 'yup, that's how they roll.'
That ok with you all?
I don't care if the animal's going to end up for dinner, but I see someone skinning a dog, cat or gerbil alive or beating the hell out of it, they're getting fed their teeth as their first course.
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You probably dont want to visit China.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he was seen skinning the cat alive. I'd say that was cruelty. I'd say anyone with half a brain and an idea of how to use it would do as well.
Koreans like to beat their dogs to get adrenaline into the bloodstream and muscle because they think it makes the meat taste better. Now before I get the knuckle draggers yelling PETA this and that, I know this because 1. I've been to Korea, was at a restaurant where dog was on the menu and the fuckwit waiter told me that's how they prepare the meat. 2. Good buddy is Korean and said 'yup, that's how they roll.'
That ok with you all?
I don't care if the animal's going to end up for dinner, but I see someone skinning a dog, cat or gerbil alive or beating the hell out of it, they're getting fed their teeth as their first course.
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You probably dont want to visit China.
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yeah, I know about China. The sooner a strain of H1N1 reboots that toilet the better.
The most soulless, vacuous and unnecessary group of 'tards I've ever met or being amongst. I avoid traveling there as much as possible.
urgh.
yeah, I know about China. The sooner a strain of H1N1 reboots that toilet the better.
The most soulless, vacuous and unnecessary group of 'tards I've ever met or being amongst. I avoid traveling there as much as possible.
urgh.
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So I take it the chinese tradition of drinking monkey brain juice / eating monkey brains while the monkey is still alive is probably also on the list of things that make you want to do bad things to people.
So I take it the chinese tradition of drinking monkey brain juice / eating monkey brains while the monkey is still alive is probably also on the list of things that make you want to do bad things to people.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: W54/XM-388</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So I take it the chinese tradition of drinking monkey brain juice / eating monkey brains while the monkey is still alive is probably also on the list of things that make you want to do bad things to people. </div></div>
Do you have a point or are you just trying to bait me?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: W54/XM-388</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So I take it the chinese tradition of drinking monkey brain juice / eating monkey brains while the monkey is still alive is probably also on the list of things that make you want to do bad things to people. </div></div>
Do you have a point or are you just trying to bait me?
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Damn shame he aint nextdoor to me.
Would keep him fed for years. feral cats are bad around here.
If you have chickens you will suffer a loss because of friggin cats.
I like killin them. He likes eatin them. How could that be bad?
I aint talking about pets. The one's here are wild as hell and you wont get within 50 yards of one on foot.
My Boss's wife got bit by one last year that was rabid. After all the shot's and a clean bill of health there are NO CATS on his farm anymore!!!!!!
Damn shame he aint nextdoor to me.
Would keep him fed for years. feral cats are bad around here.
If you have chickens you will suffer a loss because of friggin cats.
I like killin them. He likes eatin them. How could that be bad?
I aint talking about pets. The one's here are wild as hell and you wont get within 50 yards of one on foot.
My Boss's wife got bit by one last year that was rabid. After all the shot's and a clean bill of health there are NO CATS on his farm anymore!!!!!!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dbsinh20</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The four legged kind!
"It was the sound of a wailing cat that first caught the neighbor's attention."
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Man you had me scared for a moment.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dbsinh20</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The four legged kind!
"It was the sound of a wailing cat that first caught the neighbor's attention."
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Man you had me scared for a moment.
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About 100M outside the wire of The Hump is a Kegogi farm. Now being the FNG I had no clue as to what kegogi was, but damned if it didn't look good and I asked for seconds. When the next round fo brews came, one of the guys looks with this devilish smile and goes,"Hey man, you just ate dog meat!" As everyone started laughing, I just smiled and went,"yeah? Man it was so good, it tasted like chicken!" After I went to work the next day, I got clued in to what that place with all the dogs was. Had a new attitude toward dogs after that, and I'll be hanged if everytime I see a small black and white dog that looks a little like a husky my mouth don't start waterin'!
Personally, I see nothing worng with eatin' a little pussy either!
About 100M outside the wire of The Hump is a Kegogi farm. Now being the FNG I had no clue as to what kegogi was, but damned if it didn't look good and I asked for seconds. When the next round fo brews came, one of the guys looks with this devilish smile and goes,"Hey man, you just ate dog meat!" As everyone started laughing, I just smiled and went,"yeah? Man it was so good, it tasted like chicken!" After I went to work the next day, I got clued in to what that place with all the dogs was. Had a new attitude toward dogs after that, and I'll be hanged if everytime I see a small black and white dog that looks a little like a husky my mouth don't start waterin'!
Personally, I see nothing worng with eatin' a little pussy either!
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latimes.com
Complex effort to rid San Nicolas Island of cats declared a success
The six-agency project cost more than $3 million and entailed 18 months of trapping on the Navy-owned island off Southern California. The cats killed cormorants, gulls and a threatened lizard.
By Steve Chawkins, Los Angeles Times
4:21 PM PST, February 26, 2012
Reporting from San Nicolas Island, Calif.
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The problem was daunting: Round up every last one of the who-knows-how-many cats living in the wild on wind-blasted San Nicolas Island, a 33-square-mile chunk of chaparral and jagged canyons off the Southern California coast.
And don't get in the way of the missiles that are launched from, and sometimes aimed at, the arid, Navy-owned island. And don't hurt the cats, the seabirds they feast on, the threatened island foxes, the native deer mice or, for that matter, anything else.
The solution was something a little more complicated than "Here, kitty kitty."
The effort involved six agencies, cost more than $3 million and entailed 18 months of trapping, though planning for it took much longer. Biologists brought in dogs, but soon shipped them out: Fido couldn't find Fluffy because he was too distracted by the island's hundreds of foxes. And the cats weren't falling for the scientists' "felid-attracting phonics" — digitally recorded meows that didn't work as well as they might in cartoons.
Ultimately, the job required the skills of a retired bobcat hunter as well as some 250 custom-built traps that flashed computer alerts to researchers miles away. Much of the funding came from the Montrose Settlements Restoration Program, a group formed in 2001 to aid the recovery of coastal areas hurt by decades of DDT dumping.
Earlier this month, biologists and Navy personnel gathered on the rain-swept island to celebrate their success. There wasn't a cat in sight.
"At first we didn't even know whether it was feasible," said Chad Hanson, leader of the effort for Island Conservation, a nonprofit that eradicates invasive species on islands around the world. "It took us quite a while to be able to look someone in the face and say it could be done."
Hanson, 28, was Island Conservation's project manager. A biologist who lives near Portland, Ore., he has helped remove goats from an island in the Galapagos and cats from Ecuador's Isla de la Plata.
San Nicolas had its own challenges, but a professional tracker named Bill Wood could read the terrain well enough to place traps scented with catnip, urine and excrement at just the right spots.
"He could predict just where cats would step and where they would sniff, how long their gait would be and where they'd stop," Hanson said.
Wood hiked the canyons and ridgelines, creating subtle cat trails with rocks and other obstacles. Weeks or even months after a trap was placed, a curious cat would follow the trail and set its paw on a sensor the size of a half-dollar, triggering a padded jaw that wrapped around its leg, and sending a message about the capture to Hanson's computers.
There were plenty of unanticipated problems. Crew members had to clear their radio channels with the Navy, Hanson said, "so we didn't accidentally set off munitions." They had to avoid disturbing the island's hundreds of Native American burial sites and midden heaps, consulting a Navy archaeologist before driving to far-flung traps.
San Nicolas is rich in history. It is best known as the setting of "Island of the Blue Dolphins," a novel based on an Indian woman who lived in solitude there for 18 years. Scholars debate the details of her life, but millions of California students have come to know her as "the lone woman of San Nicolas."
In 2009 and 2010, planes ferried 59 cats, unharmed, from San Nicolas — where they were examined in a trailer clinic set up by the Institute for Wildlife Studies — to a shelter built specially for them by the Humane Society of the United States in Ramona, near San Diego.
Over the following year, scientists scoured the island 61 miles off Point Mugu for any wily lingerers. Meanwhile, volunteers at the Fund for Animals Wildlife Center in Ramona worked to acclimate the formerly feral critters to humans. Most will be put up for adoption over the next few months.
Cats had roamed the island since at least 1952, probably the descendants of pets brought to the remote base by sailors or civilian employees. From time to time, the Navy tried to get rid of them but failed.
"The techniques weren't very refined," said Grace Smith, a longtime Navy biologist. "We could never get to the point of knowing we had the last one."
Like many military bases, the island is a haven for wildlife.
In breeding season, 2-ton elephant seals bellow on the beach, raising spumes of sand with a whack of their flippers. Island foxes skitter beside massive golf-ball-like structures packed with instruments that collect and relay military data. Blazing with yellow blooms, giant coreopsis plants sit on a bluff above a shoreline where unarmed missiles slam into targets of stacked, rusty shipping containers.
Even with rockets roaring overhead, it was a great place to be a cat — but not so great for the colonies of Brandt's cormorants and Western gulls that they ravaged. The cats also dined on the federally threatened island night lizard and competed for food with the island fox, a protected species unique to the Channel Islands whose population was rapidly dwindling before the start of aggressive protection programs in the 1990s.
By June 2010, there were no cats left, as far as anyone could tell. But proving an absence of cats is a riddle worthy of a Zen master.
Cat sightings used to be commonplace around "Nictown" — the squat group of buildings where as many as 200 sailors and scientists bunk during the week. But from the galley to the fitness center to the little store that sold such island staples as sweatshirts, booze and canned chili, there were no more reports.
Hanson and his crew pored over thousands of photos from the 54 motion-activated, infrared cameras they installed around the island. They hunted for droppings and bird carcasses. They also relied on the statistical savvy of mathematicians in New Zealand, who developed elegant probability formulas from mountains of data on sightings and scat.
To their relief, they found nothing.
At their recent celebration in a chilly auditorium on the island, officials declared the mission accomplished. Capt. James McHugh, then the commanding officer of Naval Base Ventura County, commended the group for its "monumental achievement." The scientists and the Navy personnel stopped short of references to St. Patrick and the snakes of Ireland but proudly noted that San Nicolas is the largest island anywhere to remove feral cats without using poison.
The bird colonies appear to be bouncing back. There's talk of eventually getting the island night lizard off the endangered list. Hanson is preparing to deal with rats on Wake Island. McHugh, who retired Friday, offered a wry wish to the crowd:
"Hopefully," he said," if there's a cat left on San Nicolas, there's only one."
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-adv-san-nicolas-20120227,0,5323367.story
latimes.com
Complex effort to rid San Nicolas Island of cats declared a success
The six-agency project cost more than $3 million and entailed 18 months of trapping on the Navy-owned island off Southern California. The cats killed cormorants, gulls and a threatened lizard.
By Steve Chawkins, Los Angeles Times
4:21 PM PST, February 26, 2012
Reporting from San Nicolas Island, Calif.
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The problem was daunting: Round up every last one of the who-knows-how-many cats living in the wild on wind-blasted San Nicolas Island, a 33-square-mile chunk of chaparral and jagged canyons off the Southern California coast.
And don't get in the way of the missiles that are launched from, and sometimes aimed at, the arid, Navy-owned island. And don't hurt the cats, the seabirds they feast on, the threatened island foxes, the native deer mice or, for that matter, anything else.
The solution was something a little more complicated than "Here, kitty kitty."
The effort involved six agencies, cost more than $3 million and entailed 18 months of trapping, though planning for it took much longer. Biologists brought in dogs, but soon shipped them out: Fido couldn't find Fluffy because he was too distracted by the island's hundreds of foxes. And the cats weren't falling for the scientists' "felid-attracting phonics" — digitally recorded meows that didn't work as well as they might in cartoons.
Ultimately, the job required the skills of a retired bobcat hunter as well as some 250 custom-built traps that flashed computer alerts to researchers miles away. Much of the funding came from the Montrose Settlements Restoration Program, a group formed in 2001 to aid the recovery of coastal areas hurt by decades of DDT dumping.
Earlier this month, biologists and Navy personnel gathered on the rain-swept island to celebrate their success. There wasn't a cat in sight.
"At first we didn't even know whether it was feasible," said Chad Hanson, leader of the effort for Island Conservation, a nonprofit that eradicates invasive species on islands around the world. "It took us quite a while to be able to look someone in the face and say it could be done."
Hanson, 28, was Island Conservation's project manager. A biologist who lives near Portland, Ore., he has helped remove goats from an island in the Galapagos and cats from Ecuador's Isla de la Plata.
San Nicolas had its own challenges, but a professional tracker named Bill Wood could read the terrain well enough to place traps scented with catnip, urine and excrement at just the right spots.
"He could predict just where cats would step and where they would sniff, how long their gait would be and where they'd stop," Hanson said.
Wood hiked the canyons and ridgelines, creating subtle cat trails with rocks and other obstacles. Weeks or even months after a trap was placed, a curious cat would follow the trail and set its paw on a sensor the size of a half-dollar, triggering a padded jaw that wrapped around its leg, and sending a message about the capture to Hanson's computers.
There were plenty of unanticipated problems. Crew members had to clear their radio channels with the Navy, Hanson said, "so we didn't accidentally set off munitions." They had to avoid disturbing the island's hundreds of Native American burial sites and midden heaps, consulting a Navy archaeologist before driving to far-flung traps.
San Nicolas is rich in history. It is best known as the setting of "Island of the Blue Dolphins," a novel based on an Indian woman who lived in solitude there for 18 years. Scholars debate the details of her life, but millions of California students have come to know her as "the lone woman of San Nicolas."
In 2009 and 2010, planes ferried 59 cats, unharmed, from San Nicolas — where they were examined in a trailer clinic set up by the Institute for Wildlife Studies — to a shelter built specially for them by the Humane Society of the United States in Ramona, near San Diego.
Over the following year, scientists scoured the island 61 miles off Point Mugu for any wily lingerers. Meanwhile, volunteers at the Fund for Animals Wildlife Center in Ramona worked to acclimate the formerly feral critters to humans. Most will be put up for adoption over the next few months.
Cats had roamed the island since at least 1952, probably the descendants of pets brought to the remote base by sailors or civilian employees. From time to time, the Navy tried to get rid of them but failed.
"The techniques weren't very refined," said Grace Smith, a longtime Navy biologist. "We could never get to the point of knowing we had the last one."
Like many military bases, the island is a haven for wildlife.
In breeding season, 2-ton elephant seals bellow on the beach, raising spumes of sand with a whack of their flippers. Island foxes skitter beside massive golf-ball-like structures packed with instruments that collect and relay military data. Blazing with yellow blooms, giant coreopsis plants sit on a bluff above a shoreline where unarmed missiles slam into targets of stacked, rusty shipping containers.
Even with rockets roaring overhead, it was a great place to be a cat — but not so great for the colonies of Brandt's cormorants and Western gulls that they ravaged. The cats also dined on the federally threatened island night lizard and competed for food with the island fox, a protected species unique to the Channel Islands whose population was rapidly dwindling before the start of aggressive protection programs in the 1990s.
By June 2010, there were no cats left, as far as anyone could tell. But proving an absence of cats is a riddle worthy of a Zen master.
Cat sightings used to be commonplace around "Nictown" — the squat group of buildings where as many as 200 sailors and scientists bunk during the week. But from the galley to the fitness center to the little store that sold such island staples as sweatshirts, booze and canned chili, there were no more reports.
Hanson and his crew pored over thousands of photos from the 54 motion-activated, infrared cameras they installed around the island. They hunted for droppings and bird carcasses. They also relied on the statistical savvy of mathematicians in New Zealand, who developed elegant probability formulas from mountains of data on sightings and scat.
To their relief, they found nothing.
At their recent celebration in a chilly auditorium on the island, officials declared the mission accomplished. Capt. James McHugh, then the commanding officer of Naval Base Ventura County, commended the group for its "monumental achievement." The scientists and the Navy personnel stopped short of references to St. Patrick and the snakes of Ireland but proudly noted that San Nicolas is the largest island anywhere to remove feral cats without using poison.
The bird colonies appear to be bouncing back. There's talk of eventually getting the island night lizard off the endangered list. Hanson is preparing to deal with rats on Wake Island. McHugh, who retired Friday, offered a wry wish to the crowd:
"Hopefully," he said," if there's a cat left on San Nicolas, there's only one."
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-adv-san-nicolas-20120227,0,5323367.story
Re: Jailed for eating pussy!
If only I had a nickel for everytime
If only I had a nickel for everytime
Re: Jailed for eating pussy!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yeah, I know about China. The sooner a strain of H1N1 reboots that toilet the better.
The most soulless, vacuous and unnecessary group of 'tards I've ever met or being amongst. I avoid traveling there as much as possible.
urgh.</div></div>
+1 Add Korea and the rest of SE Asia to that list.
Re: Jailed for eating pussy!
I've shot many a feral cat. I've seen what kind of damage that they can do with a .22 subsonic hollow point planted in their skull. I'm not about to stick a knife in a live one. At least he was eating them. I simply toss them off the property.
I've shot many a feral cat. I've seen what kind of damage that they can do with a .22 subsonic hollow point planted in their skull. I'm not about to stick a knife in a live one. At least he was eating them. I simply toss them off the property.
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