What's the purpose of shortening the barrel? increase rigidity? make you think your pencil barrel is a heavy barrel?
Gunsmithing knocking a few inches off of barrel length
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Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
That’s one reason, shorter = stiffer= better accuracy (generally)
But other reasons include less weight, more compact for better maneuverability, better balance and shorter overall length when using a suppressor.
Go long if you want to squeeze all the velocity possible out of a cartridge and/or using iron sights (better accuracy due to the increased sight radius).
That’s one reason, shorter = stiffer= better accuracy (generally)
But other reasons include less weight, more compact for better maneuverability, better balance and shorter overall length when using a suppressor.
Go long if you want to squeeze all the velocity possible out of a cartridge and/or using iron sights (better accuracy due to the increased sight radius).
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
Rifles are like women;
Some guys like tall and lean ones, some like short fat ones, some like plain ones, some like loud obnoxious ones. Everyone of those women offers something the other can't. Me, I am a big time rifle poygamist.
Rifles are like women;
Some guys like tall and lean ones, some like short fat ones, some like plain ones, some like loud obnoxious ones. Everyone of those women offers something the other can't. Me, I am a big time rifle poygamist.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
It's a popular way to decrease velocity and increase muzzle blast.
It's a popular way to decrease velocity and increase muzzle blast.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
My 17.5" Surgeon hits steel with boring regularity at 750 yards. Its around 14lbs loaded
. My gun suppressed is still a hair shorter then a 23" barreled gun.
Unless I'm shooting competitions where every fps counts, I don't see the need to carry a huge stick, unless you're trying to compensate for something else.
My 17.5" Surgeon hits steel with boring regularity at 750 yards. Its around 14lbs loaded
Unless I'm shooting competitions where every fps counts, I don't see the need to carry a huge stick, unless you're trying to compensate for something else.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
Portability in addition to stiffness. A good friend has a .223 with a 26" barrel. He says it is a pain to get out of the truck window. I like a 20" tube.
Portability in addition to stiffness. A good friend has a .223 with a 26" barrel. He says it is a pain to get out of the truck window. I like a 20" tube.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
Shorter barrels make it easier to take in and out of a vehicle. Think police car.
Shorter barrels make it easier to take in and out of a vehicle. Think police car.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Muttt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Shorter barrels make it easier to take in and out of a vehicle. Think police car. </div></div>
Hmm...they always took my guns away from me before I got in the police car...never had the chance to take one out.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Muttt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Shorter barrels make it easier to take in and out of a vehicle. Think police car. </div></div>
Hmm...they always took my guns away from me before I got in the police car...never had the chance to take one out.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hired Gun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a popular way to decrease velocity and increase muzzle blast. </div></div>
This...^
When properly addressing barrel harmonics per the OCW principles, barrel "stiffness" becomes more myth than anything else. Aside from a barrel heat issue, long skinny barrels can be made to shoot just as well as short fat ones. BT/DT.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hired Gun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a popular way to decrease velocity and increase muzzle blast. </div></div>
This...^
When properly addressing barrel harmonics per the OCW principles, barrel "stiffness" becomes more myth than anything else. Aside from a barrel heat issue, long skinny barrels can be made to shoot just as well as short fat ones. BT/DT.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Niles Coyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
But other reasons include less weight, more compact for better maneuverability, better balance and shorter overall length when using a suppressor.
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This...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Niles Coyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
But other reasons include less weight, more compact for better maneuverability, better balance and shorter overall length when using a suppressor.
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This...
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
Off the bench not much difference. Huge differennce hunting or tactical
Off the bench not much difference. Huge differennce hunting or tactical
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
For those of you interested in the facts behind barrel rigidity, have a look at this article:
http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/barrel_making/rigidity_benchrest_rifles.htm
And for those of you who want to know about barrel deflection and harmonics, have a look here:
http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/longrange_shooting/ideal_barrel_308_tactical_rifle.htm
For those of you interested in the facts behind barrel rigidity, have a look at this article:
http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/barrel_making/rigidity_benchrest_rifles.htm
And for those of you who want to know about barrel deflection and harmonics, have a look here:
http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/longrange_shooting/ideal_barrel_308_tactical_rifle.htm
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
don't hate me for saying this but often times aesthetics play a large role in decision making.
don't hate me for saying this but often times aesthetics play a large role in decision making.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
Sure it does, as do ergonomics, portability and handling.
For example, if I have to carry it for two days in a pack, and my maximum engagement range is 1000 yards, then if I can shoot a .496BC bullet at 2780 out if my 18.5" barrel and I am currently shooting a .496BC bullet ay 2980 out of my 26" barrel, why carry a 22lb rifle when a 14lb rifle will suffice?
Sure it does, as do ergonomics, portability and handling.
For example, if I have to carry it for two days in a pack, and my maximum engagement range is 1000 yards, then if I can shoot a .496BC bullet at 2780 out if my 18.5" barrel and I am currently shooting a .496BC bullet ay 2980 out of my 26" barrel, why carry a 22lb rifle when a 14lb rifle will suffice?
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For example, if I have to carry it for two days in a pack, and my maximum engagement range is 1000 yards, then if I can shoot a .496BC bullet at 2780 out if my 18.5" barrel and I am currently shooting a .496BC bullet ay 2980 out of my 26" barrel, why carry a 22lb rifle when a 14lb rifle will suffice? </div></div>
i love a short barrel. BTW what caliber are the rifles youre describing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For example, if I have to carry it for two days in a pack, and my maximum engagement range is 1000 yards, then if I can shoot a .496BC bullet at 2780 out if my 18.5" barrel and I am currently shooting a .496BC bullet ay 2980 out of my 26" barrel, why carry a 22lb rifle when a 14lb rifle will suffice? </div></div>
i love a short barrel. BTW what caliber are the rifles youre describing?
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chubbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i love a short barrel. BTW what caliber are the rifles youre describing? </div></div>.308 with SW Ammo 155 Scenar factory loads.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chubbles</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i love a short barrel. BTW what caliber are the rifles youre describing? </div></div>.308 with SW Ammo 155 Scenar factory loads.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
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i loved the scenars but due to cost i switched to 175 smk and can only manage 2700fps out of my 20" barrel. regardless the accuracy is still fantastic.
i loved the scenars but due to cost i switched to 175 smk and can only manage 2700fps out of my 20" barrel. regardless the accuracy is still fantastic.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
I have a 18.5 260 [CBI],after changing brake's on it,I like it alot better than my 24'' 260 [Shilen select match] but I love the two 15'' & 16''long range pistol's I shoot also, so I guess I just like SHORT !
I have a 18.5 260 [CBI],after changing brake's on it,I like it alot better than my 24'' 260 [Shilen select match] but I love the two 15'' & 16''long range pistol's I shoot also, so I guess I just like SHORT !
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
I remember Frank somewhere saying if the barrel is good, length is secondary...so thanks for all the input again...HOMIES.
I remember Frank somewhere saying if the barrel is good, length is secondary...so thanks for all the input again...HOMIES.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
I've always been a fan of shorter barrels. The only thing lost is some velocity, and not enough to make a difference with what I use my firearms for.
They're easier to handle, to store, and they're lighter. That's why.
I've always been a fan of shorter barrels. The only thing lost is some velocity, and not enough to make a difference with what I use my firearms for.
They're easier to handle, to store, and they're lighter. That's why.
Re: knocking a few inches off of barrel length
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hero's machine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rifles are like women;
Some guys like tall and lean ones, some like short fat ones, some like plain ones, some like loud obnoxious ones. Everyone of those women offers something the other can't. Me, I am a big time rifle poygamist. </div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hero's machine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rifles are like women;
Some guys like tall and lean ones, some like short fat ones, some like plain ones, some like loud obnoxious ones. Everyone of those women offers something the other can't. Me, I am a big time rifle poygamist. </div></div>
+1
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