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LaRue LMT KAC

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With all of this gun control legislation on the table both in individual states and federal laws, I told the wife that I want an AR10. The LaRues always seem to have good feedback, but I also can’t forget about the prestige of LMT and especially the KAC SR25.

If I went the SR25 route, I would feel obligated to also get a KAC suppressor too. With the LMT or LaRue it would be a Surefire suppressor most likely. Then optic, mount and etc.

I want a 16-18” barrel for 308. Mostly setup for a RECCE type rifle. If I compete with it, it would just be for fun.

Side note: once the govt gets more power, they never give some of it back. It sets a precedent that this level of power is now acceptable.

I don’t want to drop 5-7k on a setup right now, but it could be a now or never situation sooner than later.
 
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One good thing is that you can swap the uppers & lowers between these 3 (Larue, LMT, and KAC). So once you get one complete setup, you can purchase a different upper as desired.
 
I think the price point of those is really different. I think larue uu large frames are 1500 and kac is far more.


i would go larue as I think price to value is great, but I am not sure if its the best hands down ar
 
I think the price point of those is really different. I think larue uu large frames are 1500 and kac is far more.


i would go larue as I think price to value is great, but I am not sure if its the best hands down ar

I guess I didn’t realize they made those. I was referring to the predatobr 762
 
I'm interested to see what happens with SR25 prices now that HK has the contract for the M110A1.

Absolutely nothing, they will maintain the same price point. Like them or not their customers, including the military, see their value and will continue to purchase them.
 
i am not sure what value it has over the uu. I know it can be broken down and barrel changes but i think barrels are hard to come by... a Variant of the uu is what the bid in the last proposal the participated in

So it looks like the UU kit has an option for larue/m110 lower or dpms gen 1 lower. So does that mean I could pair that upper with an AERO M5 lower? I almost feel like I’m downgrading myself, but even people who work for KAC say a lower is just a lower as long as everything lines up the way it should.
 
So it looks like the UU kit has an option for larue/m110 lower or dpms gen 1 lower. So does that mean I could pair that upper with an AERO M5 lower? I almost feel like I’m downgrading myself, but even people who work for KAC say a lower is just a lower as long as everything lines up the way it should.

correct they have both the rounded upper and slanted upper available...if I go large frame I think I would go rounded only because I could get aero upper receivers
 
Hmmm...the larue kit is looking more appealing. From the reviews, it looks like those upper are shooting great. Maybe I won’t have to break the bank to get a nice large frame gasser after all.
 
I have a 20"" LaRue 6.5 CM uu kit, bought in March 2018. Most of the rifle I like.
Nice BCG, it's my first chromed or at least not black, cleans up super quick. The polished contact points are a nice touch imo.
Over all fit and finish is good. Some people have complained abou the lines of the upper and lower are kinda mismatched. I can see what the are saying, but its not an issue for me. The upper kit and lower are ordered separate, mine fit together nice and tight, I've read others didn't.
My biggest complaint about the 6.5 CM is they went with a 1:10 twist, accuracy with 140gr, Hornady match, and American Gunner is mediocre. 130's are a little better, but not what I would call precise, as in not sub MOA at least not in my hands consistantly . The barrel does clean up quickly. LaRue has been making their own barrels for a while, I think they used to use Lothar Walther barrels. I have an older LW barrel on a .308 savage, I like it alot. I wonder if the rifle would be better if LaRue were still using LW. Maybe the .308 you are interested in will be better matched up. One other complaint is the barrel extention was sloppy in the upper when I put it together. I shimmed it and it did help some.
I ordered 2 extra LaRue mags with the uu kit, they work great, just a little pricey. MagPuls work without issue as well.
Mine has the tranquilo brake, but as Illinois is not suppressor friendly, I just have the brake. It looks cool, and I'd say it works. I never fired it with the A2 bird cage. My brake was shipped separately due to being out of stock. It showed up before my lower otherwise I could give a comparison.
LaRue was great anytime I called with questions. Mostly I wanted their opinion on what to use on the barrel nut, they did say anti sieze. I've called to verify the twist rate and about buffer weights. It does come with an H2, they don't sell an H3. The buffer tube is carbine length. I wanted a MagPul PRS stock and it takes a rifle length tube. LaRue sells a rifle length with the interior cut for a carbine buffer $50. It is not really listed on their website, but with a phone call set me up.
Range reliability has been solid, no issues with mine.
I have not shot a Predator or OBR, but they have a solid internet reputation AFAIK. The uu kit is probably not the same. Would I buy another? Maybe.
If I had experience with a MWS I'd be able to weigh the cost difference.
My LMT MRP CQB in 5.56 is reliable, tight and well finished. The 16" cl barrel is not precise, the 18" SS is better, not sub MOA. MOA yes, just not sub. I have a LMT 22" SS .224 Valkyrie barrel showing up tomorrow from another Hide member. Hoping that one is a nailer.
Im giving a limited brand comparison not an apples to apples.
An UU might be everything you want performance/cost wise. I think a Predat/OBR will have better resale value to the informed. The MWS should be solid according to anything I've read. My only hang up with LMT is the proprietary barrel extension/ barrel cost & barrel choices, but again that's my 5.56 platform issue and may be different with the MWS.
KAC is out of my price range so no comment.
 
I have an LMT 11.5 5.56 upper on a KAC lower. It’s the best carbine I’ve ever used. Light, streamlined, reliable, and solid fitment of everything. Not sloppy like my DD SBR.

I guess when you compare prices of similar models, the LMT does provide more value than the Larue. I saw a larue in the px for $2700. Tempting, but maybe I should hold out for the LMT.
 
It's all good IMO. I would pick LMT for a few reasons

-their barrels-especially the SS ones-shoot amazing in my experience-and you can buy an extra or 2 and you have a gun for the rest of your life that will always work and be super accurate and fun to shoot.

-Modularity obviously-different barrels and calibers swapped in seconds.

-They have flash sales often-Black Friday etc where you can stock up on barrels for cheap.

-LMTs are effing heavy though.

I've never handled or even seen in person Larue firearms so I have no input there. I hate his 1913 rail mount interface but I love his triggers.

-KAC is awesome and I prefer them in small frame but for large frame I'm LMT all the way.
 
If I were to buy a factory gun I'd buy a MWS. KAC is overpriced. They've been latched on the government teet too long so they don't care if the average Joe can't/won't buy their stuff. I'm interested to see what happens with SR25 prices now that HK has the contract for the M110A1.


Maybe come down so you can finally afford one?
 
It's all good IMO. I would pick LMT for a few reasons

-their barrels-especially the SS ones-shoot amazing in my experience-and you can buy an extra or 2 and you have a gun for the rest of your life that will always work and be super accurate and fun to shoot.

-Modularity obviously-different barrels and calibers swapped in seconds.

-They have flash sales often-Black Friday etc where you can stock up on barrels for cheap.

-LMTs are effing heavy though.

I've never handled or even seen in person Larue firearms so I have no input there. I hate his 1913 rail mount interface but I love his triggers.

-KAC is awesome and I prefer them in small frame but for large frame I'm LMT all the way.

Yeah, I scored my 11.5” upper during one of their sales. I saved a few hundred bucks from what I remember.

I saw a video of a dude who had the 13.5 barrel, and it was actually impressive how well it shot even out to further distances. It didn’t look like wind was much of a factor though, so that helped a lot. I’m leaning more towards the 16” barrel vs the longer barrels. If only they made shorter CM barrels.
 
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Maybe come down so you can finally afford one?
Well if I can ever find a smoking deal on one I'll definitely pick one up and then immediately part it out and use the proceeds to buy an MWS with a spare barrel, a few cases of match ammo, and then I'll put the rest towards an optic of some sort.
 
I've had a LMT...great guns...little gassy...especially suppressed...I now moved back to a POF after a short stint with a Tavor 7...I've had good luck with one before and as a lefty...piston is nice as it minimizes gas in the face...they are also pretty darn accurate once dialed in...my previous POF ran M80 ball at 1.5-1.75 MOA with a US Optics SR6s.