I recently ordered a Mcmillan and I had them do lead injection and everyone i talk to seems really surprised. Is that something like really unheard of? I'm just going to be shooting prone and on a bench so the weight just helps with recoil.
Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
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Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
no...its done all the time for "sniper fill"....but in reality its either fiberglass or some other dense material added in the rear of the stock
no...its done all the time for "sniper fill"....but in reality its either fiberglass or some other dense material added in the rear of the stock
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
I think it is a great idea as long as it is supported shooting. also it should help the balance of the rifle if it is a really heavy barrel.
I think it is a great idea as long as it is supported shooting. also it should help the balance of the rifle if it is a really heavy barrel.
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
savvy lead shot in a glue mixture.....something one can mill out if need be
savvy lead shot in a glue mixture.....something one can mill out if need be
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
nhassey48,
You are not the only one we pour lead into the stock for. We do it all the time for bench rest shooters especially. Since you are using your stock for the same application it makes total sense to me. Your just caring it from your trunk to the bench. Plus, for only $51 to have it installed and add as much lead as you want, why not?
nhassey48,
You are not the only one we pour lead into the stock for. We do it all the time for bench rest shooters especially. Since you are using your stock for the same application it makes total sense to me. Your just caring it from your trunk to the bench. Plus, for only $51 to have it installed and add as much lead as you want, why not?
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">savvy lead shot in a glue mixture.....something one can mill out if need be </div></div>
I hate to agree with the Ripper, but he has something there. You can also use lead wool(sometimes available at plumbing supply shops). For laminated stocks, I have drilled the butt and poured melted lead bullets in. I thought it might de-laminate, but has not yet.
david
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">savvy lead shot in a glue mixture.....something one can mill out if need be </div></div>
I hate to agree with the Ripper, but he has something there. You can also use lead wool(sometimes available at plumbing supply shops). For laminated stocks, I have drilled the butt and poured melted lead bullets in. I thought it might de-laminate, but has not yet.
david
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
I just think it is completely unnecessary. Instead of making a heavy stock heavier for the sake of balance, be creative. Have them light fill the front and heavy fill the butt only. You picked a tactical stock, you might as well make a tactical rifle. Doesn't matter if it is a range gun. Handy is always better than a boat anchor. I am a fan of muzzlebrakes and would choose a light braked rifle over building something needlessly heavy.
I just think it is completely unnecessary. Instead of making a heavy stock heavier for the sake of balance, be creative. Have them light fill the front and heavy fill the butt only. You picked a tactical stock, you might as well make a tactical rifle. Doesn't matter if it is a range gun. Handy is always better than a boat anchor. I am a fan of muzzlebrakes and would choose a light braked rifle over building something needlessly heavy.
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
I've "leaded" a couple of stocks before too, one was a benchgun so weight wasn't an issue though. the other wasn't much added weight so it didn't bother me.
I've "leaded" a couple of stocks before too, one was a benchgun so weight wasn't an issue though. the other wasn't much added weight so it didn't bother me.
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
Lead is a bit much for what you want i think. The sniper fill is pretty heavy if you got the whole stock sniper fill it would be enough to tame the recoil that's for sure. But if you want a heavy gun that your not ever worried about having to carry then put lead in it, it will make it more stable on a rest.
Lead is a bit much for what you want i think. The sniper fill is pretty heavy if you got the whole stock sniper fill it would be enough to tame the recoil that's for sure. But if you want a heavy gun that your not ever worried about having to carry then put lead in it, it will make it more stable on a rest.
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
I had lead added to the butt of my mcst. I run a 26 inch #7 barrel. It definitly helps balance the gun
I had lead added to the butt of my mcst. I run a 26 inch #7 barrel. It definitly helps balance the gun
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
Sniper fill and a "standard" 7 barrel will give you tons of weight. What caliber are you shooting? I have a 308 and am a wimp and can shoot that without going any heavier. As a plus it is a very heavy gun to carry around.
Chad
Sniper fill and a "standard" 7 barrel will give you tons of weight. What caliber are you shooting? I have a 308 and am a wimp and can shoot that without going any heavier. As a plus it is a very heavy gun to carry around.
Chad
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
Yea I'm shooting a .308. I really am always going to use a Bipod or a front rest. I mean, the M40a3 is 16.5 lbs. That's pretty heavy and they do real life long range killing. I don't see my rifle being much heavier then that.
Yea I'm shooting a .308. I really am always going to use a Bipod or a front rest. I mean, the M40a3 is 16.5 lbs. That's pretty heavy and they do real life long range killing. I don't see my rifle being much heavier then that.
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
My barrels are 28" for the most part and are all MTU contour. That's a lot of tube hanging out front. I add lead to the stock on all of them...or a mercury recoil reducer. Yes it makes the total weight heavier but it makes the rifle handle much easier in positional.
Imagine a long sword with that big weight on the handle...thats not for show...it's to make the weapon move faster with more control.
I don't like muzzle brakes...they are loud and blow veg all over the people shooting around me.
pour the lead and don't sweat it.
Respectfully
--KJ
My barrels are 28" for the most part and are all MTU contour. That's a lot of tube hanging out front. I add lead to the stock on all of them...or a mercury recoil reducer. Yes it makes the total weight heavier but it makes the rifle handle much easier in positional.
Imagine a long sword with that big weight on the handle...thats not for show...it's to make the weapon move faster with more control.
I don't like muzzle brakes...they are loud and blow veg all over the people shooting around me.
pour the lead and don't sweat it.
Respectfully
--KJ
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">savvy lead shot in a glue mixture.....something one can mill out if need be </div></div>
This is the suggestion that I've done, it works well and it's dirt cheap. 5 minute hobby epoxy from the local model shop or home depot will take care of the glue.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">savvy lead shot in a glue mixture.....something one can mill out if need be </div></div>
This is the suggestion that I've done, it works well and it's dirt cheap. 5 minute hobby epoxy from the local model shop or home depot will take care of the glue.
Re: Lead Injection on a Mcmillan??
Yes, we've had this conversation before, and my suggestion has always been to design the cavity with some taper, line it with a plastic bag, and fill it with a mixture of lead shot dampened in epoxy. The bag and the taper make it removeable.
Since then, I've reconsidered and am now thinking about filling plastic plumber's tubing with the shot mixture, then inserting it whole (or sawn to length) into untapered bore holes. Again, it should be removable.
Those desiring a less dense filler can use steel shot; with bismuth or Hevi-Shot for those seeking a non-toxic filler.
Greg
Yes, we've had this conversation before, and my suggestion has always been to design the cavity with some taper, line it with a plastic bag, and fill it with a mixture of lead shot dampened in epoxy. The bag and the taper make it removeable.
Since then, I've reconsidered and am now thinking about filling plastic plumber's tubing with the shot mixture, then inserting it whole (or sawn to length) into untapered bore holes. Again, it should be removable.
Those desiring a less dense filler can use steel shot; with bismuth or Hevi-Shot for those seeking a non-toxic filler.
Greg
