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Initially you can. But then your bank, grocery store, your work, social security check, unemployment, insurance will all require it
Full-on martial law - even the "limited" sort envisioned by the mouth-breathers who floated this proposal - would make the past eight months seem like a pleasant dream. What we've gone through so far is nowhere near where this shit could end up once the federal government loses control of the situation. That'd be the same federal government that we generally regard as incompetent in matters big and small, in case you've forgotten every other comment ever made by every conservative in the history of the internet (perhaps minus matters related to the WoT, which sure as hell turned out well).
i think you and i have different definitions of how it would go down. and have you considered that they already have pretty much shut the country down?Martial law? ha ha These fuckers can’t keep a bunch of basement dwellers from taking over roads, bridges and parts of cities, but yeah they can make the whole country stay home.....ha ha That’s funny!
Martial law? ha ha These fuckers can’t keep a bunch of basement dwellers from taking over roads, bridges and parts of cities, but yeah they can make the whole country stay home.....ha ha That’s funny!
i fully respect your concerns on this. but as has been said....the other option is allowing the coupe to be completed. and if that’s allowed, it’s game over and will be far uglier than ferreting out the rats with marshal law.
i’ve said many time before, if i were the man, i’d declare it, ferret out the rats. when over, i’d turn it back ot the people, resign, and turn myself in for prosecution.
and if you’ve ever been in court, you know that there are different layers of justice depending on who you are. so i ask you.....what are we really doing, anyway? this system is so infiltrated with corruption that the fear of “we the people” needs to be reinstalled.
Suspending the Constitution sounds like fun. I'm sure we can flick that switch "on" and "off" with no problems, right?
While you're correct, who issued the orders does not diminish the infringement.Just keeping things down the line - the Federal Government has made no such mandate and it is in fact the individual State Govs that have done so.
You seem like a pretty intelligent man. Why in the fuck are you so willingly blind?I'm pretty damn sure that we would find out that actual martial law sucks a lot worse than having the local barber shop closed down for a couple of months.
In fact if they had to declare marshall law, to override these governors that are overstepping their authority. Opened small business, and put kids back in school, and stop with the B.S quarantines. Hell marshal law might look a shade better than the last year.
Once the prez declared martial law to be in effect, then every state and local government would follow. Some of those states have rather serious police departments that would be, uh, somewhat more aggressive than the Portland City Police.
Expect the Bill of Rights to be suspended. Ya think the bump stock ban, civil forfeiture laws, and Twitter shadow bans are flagrant violations of our rights? Just wait. Yeah, maybe SCOTUS will eventually declare these provisions to be unconstitutional. That'll be useful in getting your hardware back in 2-3 years.
Writ of habeas corpus would be suspended.
International borders would get slammed close. Interstate travel could be shut down. Certainly airplanes would be grounded; it might go further with closure of state borders. Maybe the whole interstate highway system gets closed; anyone found traveling upon it is subject to immediate arrest and detainment (see above).
The internet could go down in part or whole. It used to be an incredibly robust system with near-infinite redundancy. Now we're dependant upon a handful of nodes, and flipping a "kill switch" is well within the capabilities of our government. Or maybe a foreign adversary would help us out with this task.
With commerce crippled by the physical limitations on travel and transportation, and unintended consequences of any restrictions on electronic communication (you know damn well that there is a meat-packing plant or refinery that is somehow dependant upon Facebook to operate), good luck getting food, fuel, and other necessary items. Think the toilet paper shortage was bad? Now imagine that for everything.
With the police and military otherwise occupied, criminals and foreign adversaries will find openings to exploit. Just watch Iran invade Saudi Arabia, or the Mexican cartels storm the border, or something else that would be otherwise improbable.
We could keep going, but I don't have time to write a complete novel and plenty of other dystopian writers have already covered this ground in detail.
But, yeah, otherwise, it'll be just like the last eight months of lockdown![]()
Lincoln did that in a much different time when people actually got tried for treason and if convicted they would be hanging from a tree branch by sundown. Nowadays when they commit treason nothing happens they get to write book deals, get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for 15 minute speeches, set up slush fund foundations, live the life of royalty. As close as they ever get to hanging from a tree branch is swinging from their fucking hammocks on their plantations they bought with the public piggy bank.Lincoln did flip that switch on. And then it got switched off.
So you think that martial law is a huge on/off switch. That there is no scope or control.
OK
Your experience with it is?????????
Same as all of ours. So tell me where did you get the crystal ball to see how it will go down?
Lincoln did that in a much different time when people actually got tried for treason and if convicted they would be hanging from a tree branch by sundown. Nowadays when they commit treason nothing happens they get to write book deals, get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for 15 minute speeches, set up slush fund foundations, live the life of royalty. As close as they ever get to hanging from a tree branch is swinging from their fucking hammocks on their plantations they bought with the public piggy bank.
The entire election system is fucked, totally and completely. The theory that Martial Law will ferret out a few bad apples and then we start a new nation is beyond dumb. The mail in voting, same day voter registration and lack of will to purge voter rolls are common place in all 50 states, including any/all that are 100% GOP in charge. That's right, sports fans....all of this fuckery is enabled by laws on the books in all states. The GA senate runoff elections are already fucked, swear in the Dems and stop wasting time. The exact same system that was in place Nov 7 is going to be used in the runoff. Only unknown is how many votes will be needed to be found to put the Dems over the top.
The Only thing to set this right is putting fear of an armed and pissed off citizenry in the hearts of ALL public servants, a stark reminder that they work FOR us. Since we (as a society) seem to lack the will to assert our will on those that are supposed to serve us, then buy more ammo and food stuff to prepare for years of socialist policies. This election has shown that the GOP will never win at the national level again until the entire system is reworked - NO mail in voting, NO same-day voter registration, required purging of voter registration rolls every 2-4 years, and requiring proof of identity to cast a vote.
It's like doing a DFMEA. You look at all the possibilities, the severity of those possibilities, the likelihood they come true, and the potential control measures. I don't like what I see when I mentally create that list. Others feel differently after performing that same task, and that's fine; I can respectfully disagree with those people and hopefully have an intelligent discussion with hopes to achieve enlightenment.
It's when people call for dropping this hammer without thinking through all the potential consequences that I start to get really queasy. The federal government has a pretty long track record of that sort of crap (every war-on-X; any post-WWII foreign excursion, the past eight months of pandemic mis-management, etc.), and I don't much care to see that sort of mistake repeated at this scale with the potential level of force that can be applied with the use of federal agencies (including .mil) on domestic soil.
So rather than any sort of introspection, the only way the GOP can win is by making voting more cumbersome? We've been doing mail in voting in AZ since '97 and it's a good system. One of the few things the state does well.
Compared to what I have to do now, yea, cumbersome. I get a ballot and information book in the mail, vote, and can either mail that in or drop it off at the county building down the street. Easy. It's a shame more states don't have this setup.
Not having any mail in voting is definitely a way to make it more difficult for certain demographics to vote, unless of course you'd like to make national elections a federal holiday. Not sure how helpful it'd be for reducing the fraud ya'll are seeing. Having electronic voting machines be open source and capable of being audited through physical records would probably be a better step towards increasing confidence in elections.
"To achieve enlightenment." LOL. Thats what you call getting someone to agree with your opinion about "what if." Seems like a pretty pompous way describe your interactions with us under dwellers that are intellectually below you. Seems like such smart guy would see the bill of rights has already been suspended and a lot more is happening than the closure of barber shops.
This^ I had to respond since I can only like once..A more effective way to deal with this would be for an immediate Executive Order pausing all NFA requirements expiring on 21 Jan 2021.
Hope you folks have a few good stands of hardy timber available. Takes a bunch of hardwood to make a proper gallows that is suitable for an audience larger than Biden’s rallies. North Carolina has cut down most of the good stuff already. It probably got shipped to China. I volunteer to help nail all that need put up^ hang evers right next to the rest of the communist traitors. there are enough of these treasonous scum that we could set a new public record for the most number of people publicly executed at once.
i am guilty as shit on this one. thanks for setting us straight.MARTIAL
Repeat after me.……………...MARTIAL LAW
Mr. Marshall and Mr. Marshal have nothing to do with it.
Hope you folks have a few good stands of hardy timber available. Takes a bunch of hardwood to make a proper gallows that is suitable for an audience larger than Biden’s rallies. North Carolina has cut down most of the good stuff already. It probably got shipped to China. I volunteer to help nail all that need put up![]()
trees, balconeys, street lights, bridges, tall buildings.....no need to lay waste to the forest in order to carry out the proper sentances.
But I can reuse rope. That small primer is gone forever.
I'm pretty damn sure that we would find out that actual martial law sucks a lot worse than having the local barber shop closed down for a couple of months.
Last time I used language like yours, I was banned.^ hang evers right next to the rest of the communist traitors. there are enough of these treasonous scum that we could set a new public record for the most number of people publicly executed at once.
Nobody said that it HAS to be made out of wood. Structural steel works just as well, if not better/bigger/faster/stronger/more-gooder!Hope you folks have a few good stands of hardy timber available. Takes a bunch of hardwood to make a proper gallows that is suitable for an audience larger than Biden’s rallies. North Carolina has cut down most of the good stuff already. It probably got shipped to China. I volunteer to help nail all that need put up![]()
i can’t speak to any of that.Last time I used language like yours, I was banned.