Rifle Scopes Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

[Johnny Sasaki]

I've been looking at a 5-25 and can't figure out if I'm gonna like the locking MTC turrets or not. I'm betting on no at the moment, but then again I've never handled them, and have really no way of doing so beings the nearest place that sells them would probably be EuroOptics and that's probably a good 5 hours away.

Anyway, like I said, I don't think I'm gonna like the locking, or the MTC part of the new turrets, but I wanted to get a secondhand opinion first to see if anyone else liked them or not.

 

[remau308]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

I don't have the locking turrets, but I do own the MTC turrets and I love them. There are some very sturdy MTC clicks like premiers, but these aren't that bad. They are noticeably harder to click, but they aren't too much.

 

[Hk996]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

I have it on my S&B and love them... I like being able to "feel" every 10th click. My buddy has 2 S&B's without them because he feels the "clunck" is a little distracting and harder to turn. I would say do your best to find someone at the range where you can feel it. Are you in socal? If so, I got to Angeles every few weeks or so. The other must have is zero stop... for me.

 

[Opticsspecialist]

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i like the mtc turrets personally, as far as the locking turrets go, they aren't exactly easy to turn and they have a zero stop, so it's a little over kill for most, but in some situations it could be useful

 

[Johnny Sasaki]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Opticsspecialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> as far as the locking turrets go, they aren't exactly easy to turn and they have a zero stop,</div></div>

Yea, I just wondering how much harder the 10th click is, and also if the locking turrets are easily locked. It would be distracting if they keep falling down into the lock position accidentally.

Also, what do you mean not being easy to turn?

 

[Zion4]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Johnny Sasaki</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Opticsspecialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> as far as the locking turrets go, they aren't exactly easy to turn and they have a zero stop,</div></div>

Yea, I just wondering how much harder the 10th click is, and also if the locking turrets are easily locked. It would be distracting if they keep falling down into the lock position accidentally.

Also, what do you mean not being easy to turn?</div></div>

I saw a video of the MTC locking turrets from a SB stand at SHOT2012 and from the looks if it, they turrets definitely would not fall down while you were shooting. It looks like you need a good amount of pressure to lock/unlock the turrets.

I actually just got a new SB with MTC and hence I've been fiddling around with the MTC for a while and I like them alot, but its significantly harder to turn the turret from something like 2.0 to 2.1 or 1.9 than it is to turn from say 2.3 to 2.4 or 2.2 due to the heavier detents. Granted, thats just from me holding the scope free hand (I dont have a gun to mount it on yet).

 

[Opticsspecialist]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spaceman_Spiff</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Johnny Sasaki</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Opticsspecialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> as far as the locking turrets go, they aren't exactly easy to turn and they have a zero stop,</div></div>

Yea, I just wondering how much harder the 10th click is, and also if the locking turrets are easily locked. It would be distracting if they keep falling down into the lock position accidentally.

Also, what do you mean not being easy to turn?</div></div>

I saw a video of the MTC locking turrets from a SB stand at SHOT2012 and from the looks if it, they turrets definitely would not fall down while you were shooting. It looks like you need a good amount of pressure to lock/unlock the turrets.

I actually just got a new SB with MTC and hence I've been fiddling around with the MTC for a while and I like them alot, but its significantly harder to turn the turret from something like 2.0 to 2.1 or 1.9 than it is to turn from say 2.3 to 2.4 or 2.2 due to the heavier detents. Granted, thats just from me holding the scope free hand (I dont have a gun to mount it on yet). </div></div>

the locking mechanism is pretty stout, it's not going to move by itself. i must admit, having a locking mechanism on your windage does have some appeal after thinking about it. the mtc turrets have that deeper click as mentioned. in all these scopes, the mtc, the locking turret model, and the standard turret model, you pretty much have to be trying to move it to get it moving.

 

[Johnny Sasaki]

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Ok, so EuroOptic is 3:13 mins away, and I'm dubbing that too far to drive to test out a scope. Anyone know of any place closer to Martinsburg WV or someplace in the Maryland area (preferably Hagerstown or Frederick) that carries S&B's in stock?

Edit: I wish I wanted a Premier, as I just found out that their headquarters is literally like 20mins from my house, lol. Hmmm. I'll have to ponder that....

 

[Jeeprider]

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The thing I don't like about the MTC turrets on the S&B is that no matter what I try it just accelerates through the first couple clicks and usually puts me under or over where I actually want to be.

 

[Rob01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeeprider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The thing I don't like about the MTC turrets on the S&B is that no matter what I try it just accelerates through the first couple clicks and usually puts me under or over where I actually want to be.</div></div>

Same on the Premiers I had. Nature of the MTC beast. Reason I don't care for the MTC knobs, in general, too much.

 

[Opticsspecialist]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeeprider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The thing I don't like about the MTC turrets on the S&B is that no matter what I try it just accelerates through the first couple clicks and usually puts me under or over where I actually want to be.</div></div>

Same on the Premiers I had. Nature of the MTC beast. Reason I don't care for the MTC knobs, in general, too much. </div></div>


i like not having to count individual clicks, counting by 10's is nice and quick. if i have to move the turret back one or two clicks, i'm rather that than having to count individual clicks.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

I never count individual clicks either and I use a standard dual turn knob. I need 4.5 mils I dial to it. I don't count 45 clicks.

 

[Opticsspecialist]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never count individual clicks either and I use a standard dual turn knob. I need 4.5 mils I dial to it. I don't count 45 clicks. </div></div>

so your just looking at the turret? either way is effective, but with the mtc, you don't have to count individually or look at the turret, you can shoot without taking your eye off the target.

thats why they have two types, some guys like blonds, some brunettes etc

 

[Rob01]

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You don't have to look unless you over shoot your data coming out of one of the heavy detents.

Like you said it's another option. Some like it. Some don't.

 

[Opticsspecialist]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't have to look unless you over shoot your data coming out of one of the heavy detents.

Like you said it's another option. Some like it. Some don't. </div></div>

LOL your right about that, when it happens i'll owe you a brew or something . what has been on my mind all day is locking turrets, while i don't see a ton of use with zero stop, having a locking turret on windage would be great in a hunting situation, or if your holding for wind

 

[Rob01]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

I agree 100% on the locking turrets especially windage. I have had my windage move when had the rifle slung and moving through obstacles before. That's why I can't wait for my 3-20 so I can lock that windage after zeroing and not have to worry. I hold all my wind anyways.

 

[yuri]

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Originally Posted By: Jeeprider
The thing I don't like about the MTC turrets on the S&B is that no matter what I try it just accelerates through the first couple clicks and usually puts me under or over where I actually want to be.

I do not like the MTC, but there is a way to adjust every 10th (tactical) click from being hard - to softer - to barely noticeable - to off. To do so, simply untighten the two set screws on the elevation knob and move it up or down to engage the MTC mechanism to your liking. I set my MTC to engage ever so slightly just to be noticeable, and not to be so hard to make me go over a click or two past the desired setting.

 

[Johnny Sasaki]

Re: Locking MTC turrets? Anyone use them?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yuri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally Posted By: Jeeprider
The thing I don't like about the MTC turrets on the S&B is that no matter what I try it just accelerates through the first couple clicks and usually puts me under or over where I actually want to be.

I do not like the MTC, but there is a way to adjust every 10th (tactical) click from being hard - to softer - to barely noticeable - to off. To do so, simply untighten the two set screws on the elevation knob and move it up or down to engage the MTC mechanism to your liking. I set my MTC to engage ever so slightly just to be noticeable, and not to be so hard to make me go over a click or two past the desired setting. </div></div>

Well this is really good to know, and it would be awesome if you could elaborate on that, but I think I'm going to hold out for that new Hensoldt 3.5-26. However, it also has the MTC turrets.