You can sometime find deals in the AR15 EE for the MRts. MK12 and Holland thread usually post when there is a good deal on one. I opted for the NF 2.5-10x24. Yes, as stated, there are cheaper options but I have owned a handful of them and don't think anything beats the 2.5-10x24 even with the finicky eye box. There are still some out there at EuroOptics, SportOptics, and MHS that are $200 off.