Suppressors M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

[TORKAR]

An older gentleman brought a full auto carbine to my friends gunshop and asked if the store would buy it as he'd like to get $500.00 out of it. The man explained that he brought it back from the "war" and it was "given" to him by the Army.

As this is probably not the first time this has happened in NFA history, how would the gun become registered to make it legally transferable... or is it stolen government property?

 

[fastford]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

not positve, but i thought ATF would destroy it

 

[palma]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TORKAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As this is probably not the first time this has happened in NFA history, how would the gun become registered to make it legally transferable... or is it stolen government property? </div></div>

The gun can't become registered, and regardless of whether it's stolen gov. prop. (that's the least of worries), the owner would be in deep s*** if caught with the gun.

 

[Arevalosocom]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

He has a VERY small window of time back in the day to register it, had he done so back then, it'd be worth 5-6,000.

Since he didn't it's worth a Felony, average sentecne is 18 months for non violent offenders / non drug users.

So basically he can do 2 things.

STFU and put it away in hopes of a possible future amensty.........not likely

Or

Destroy it.

 

[1911fan]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

Either of which f**ing suck..... BATFE is a racket born of fiscal desperation after the Volstead Act was repealed.... "Hey, now that hooch is legal, whatarewegonnado with all these gubmint employees? Hey, let's make normal stuff like Maxim's silencer illegal! Then we'll all still have jobs!"
Yeah, screwing law-abiding citizenry.


1911fan

 

[LFOD1776]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

NFATCA has been working to get another amnesty and possibly even making some headway. Short of that happening, this fella's SOL.

 

[TORKAR]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

That's what I figured. I don't see him getting in trouble with it, he's old as dirt.

 

[malaga2]

Re: M1 CARBINE, FULL AUTO

could he simply remove the selector switch?

 

[rlepage]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Malaga2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">could he simply remove the selector switch? </div></div>

nope, it's a machinegun. If it's full auto it has all the full auto parts in it.

 

[rlepage]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TORKAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An older gentleman brought a full auto carbine to my friends gunshop and asked if the store would buy it as he'd like to get $500.00 out of it. The man explained that he brought it back from the "war" and it was "given" to him by the Army.

As this is probably not the first time this has happened in NFA history, how would the gun become registered to make it legally transferable... or is it stolen government property? </div></div>

If it is a "field converted" M1 it may be possible to replace all the M2 parts with M1 parts. Have someone who deosn't have an M1 sell the M2 parts as spares for someone with a registered M2.

 

[Rundownfid]

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king it up to sell parts to "legal" M2 owners has to be a big risk. The old guy only wants $500, he could probably get that from a M2 owner, but he would need to be very careful as the risk is way to great for the $$$. He should probably put it into a airtight tube and bury it. Or drop it off a bridge some dark night.

 

[Jerry m]

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Anyone risking a 10 year Federal sentence and conviction of a Felony - barring them from owning a firearm for the rest of their life is being foolish. I have seen papered M2's for between $3,000 and $5,000. Even if you had to spend twice that, it still would be cheaper than a good attorney.

Just my two cents.

Jerry

 

[paraman1]

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The old Skaggs grocery used to sell military surplus rifles out of their basement . We used to find rifles with all the fun parts still installed all the time back in the 70's . My Dad remembers buying M1 carbines their for 25 bucks and the surplus ammo was cheaper than .22lr . They used them to shoot jack rabbits . I wonder how many of those old M1's are still around in someones closet collecting dust waiting for an ATF agent to find it .

I have the one of the ones my Grandpa brought back from WWII but it doesn't have any fun parts and the bolt is incorrect but its still a lot of fun to shoot .

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arevalosocom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He has a VERY small window of time back in the day to register it, had he done so back then, it'd be worth 5-6,000.

Since he didn't it's worth a Felony, average sentecne is 18 months for non violent offenders / non drug users.

So basically he can do 2 things.

STFU and put it away in hopes of a possible future amensty.........not likely

Or

Destroy it.

</div></div>

He <span style="color: #FF0000">had</span> a VERY small window of time back in the day to register it, had he done so back then, it'd be worth 5-6,000.

Fixed it for you....

 

[rlepage]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rundown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">king it up to sell parts to "legal" M2 owners has to be a big risk. The old guy only wants $500, he could probably get that from a M2 owner, but he would need to be very careful as the risk is way to great for the $$$. He should probably put it into a airtight tube and bury it. Or drop it off a bridge some dark night. </div></div>

If it's marked as an M1 it's not an M2. If it's not on the registry it's not registered as a machinegun.

Restoring it to the correct configuration and disposing of the FA parts would put it back into compliance. Having an M1 and unregistered FA conversion parts is the problem. Disposing of the FA conversion parts eliminates that problem. Then he would be selling an M1 and could easily get $500 for it.

Trying to sell it in the FA configuration is definitely a no-go.

The M1 carbine is a little unique in that it was designed and issued as a semi-auto and some were reconfigured in the field with the addition of a full-auto parts kit. After WW2 M2's were produced and issued as select fire. In contrast to an M-14 which was designed to be select fire from day one.