Does anyone know any machine shops (Type 07 FFL) that have EDM capabilities to make a custom action? When I mean custom, it's not based on someone else's action.
Ideally, it would go into production after the prototype was fully tested.You will need super deep pockets for a one off action
How much are you willing to invest?Ideally, it would go into production after the prototype was fully tested.
Right now, I'm just trying to get an idea of what the costs would be.How much are you willing to invest?
The reason I ask is because I own a machine shop. I get "opportunities" pitched to me regularly. The problem is they want me to take on the entire burden of development, but yet somehow think they get to retain ownership of the product?? What's the risk to you? I'm not referring to you, but I hope you get my point. Unless you have some skin in the game it's going to be tough to find someone to make the product you're thinking.Right now, I'm just trying to get an idea of what the costs would be.
I have done the R&D and need a prototype made to test. I have CAD models and drawings. I know it will need a couple more design tweaks that usually go along with a prototype.The reason I ask is because I own a machine shop. I get "opportunities" pitched to me regularly. The problem is they want me to take on the entire burden of development, but yet somehow think they get to retain ownership of the product?? What's the risk to you? I'm not referring to you, but I hope you get my point. Unless you have some skin in the game it's going to be tough to find someone to make the product you're thinking.
Unless you have an action designed it will be tough for any shop to give a reasonable cost estimate. Sure some wild guesses can be made, but that doesn't help you much.
If your going to make one,,,, 3.200 short,,, 3.950 long,,,, and 4.300 super mag,,,, Need mag development and matching floor metal. Non traditional barrel interface.
Who are the other ones you know?There’s several that can do a great job. Robert Gradous is the man
No, and if I did I'm to old and enjoy my free time to much.
You would have the look of a action but the critical parts would not work,,,,, this does in no way say anything about your skill or knowledge and if you take this commitment wrong I apologize ahead of time.If someone walked into my shop with cad files and wanted a "one off" prototype action with edm'd raceways, I would quote somewhere in the $5,000-$7,000 range. That would be for a typical round body action like a defiance rebel type. If you're talking a profiled body type with integral rail and lug like a deviant type action, that number would go up to $7,000-$10,000. That's what I would quote if that helps you at all.
Best Regards,
Todd
You would have the look of a action but the critical parts would not work,,,,, this does in no way say anything about your skill or knowledge and if you take this commitment wrong I apologize ahead of time.
I made a comment based off of several action manufacturing companies I have worked for and with. If you feel that I have misspoken I am sorry. I suggest to all involved that if you feel in your heart that you can build a action to get with it.So you are saying that without even seeing his cad files or design, that none of the critical parts of his design are going to work? Is your comment based on your opinion that the guy could not possibly design an action that will work, or that if I were to machine the parts exactly to his designs that I would make mistakes on the critical components? Just curious.
Or 700 clone that has quick change barrel capabilities and uses same thread dimensions as AI barrels!!!! Prefits for the win!
This is what I am eluding to. I'm not trying to discourage people ,,,,,but,,,,, if you don't have a passion it won't get doneI have some friends that are working on making their own custom action and I think they are around $250k in the hole right now, and still don't have the version they want for production.
It will take many revisions and shop hours to get a polished product.
Wow! Putting it into that perspective I don’t mind coughing up 1390 for a nice piece nowI have some friends that are working on making their own custom action and I think they are around $250k in the hole right now, and still don't have the version they want for production.
It will take many revisions and shop hours to get a polished product.
No sir sorry. Was trying to quote the gentleman that commented about not being able to find a shop to do his barrel work. Was giving a shoutout to Mr. Gradous. You won’t find better.
Frank, I couldn't have said it better. This is where I am at now. Drawings are almost complete and models are done. I'll have to message you as you seem to have the most knowledge about what it takes to manufacture what I'm working on.A lot depends on your cad files and drawings. If you used solidworks or some other system that allows interference detection and part movement it is much simpler to go from drawing to part. If you used Autocad or other similar its a bit tougher.
As for manufacturing we used Solidworks and mastercam to progam and build a semi auto machined receiver rifle. Even with all that it took a bit of time to develop the design. Tolerances don't just get made up and parts react differently when you subject them to high shock loads and pressures.
You are going to need to sit down with someone and go over the drawings, hopefully solids drawings, and figure out whether you've got the info necessary to make the parts right.
You're probably concerned about letting the cat out of the bag especially if its something new and improved but its about the only way you'll get any help. This would involve figuring out what machines are needed and material specs as well as just the basics of whether your drawings are sufficient for the job. This in itself will take some time and cost some money. Most shops won't go into much detail for nothing so maybe a quick look to see if its worth looking into further would cost you nothing but don't expect to go much further for free. Machine time isn't the only cost to consider. Make sure you've got something that is worth what its going to cost before you get in too deep.
Frank