I ran my tiny 14 inch gasser and only felt under gunned on a few stages. That said, I will be training on a 308 bolt gun this year. I'm more conformable on a gasser but I need to expand my skill set.So for everyone that competed, what caliber did your secondary shoot and would you roll with it again next year?
We are planning on running a bolt gun instead of gasser but trying to decide on .308 or .223
Ours was a 16” gassed running 75gr bthp at 2730 FPS, not bad but not great. The first stage we shot was at range 4 with that 900yd secondary plate and blind one over the berm at 682 yds. We had issue with trace on that .223 the whole comp, we are pretty green thou. We were thinking of running a .308 to help with signature on hits also. If we do run a .223 I’m gonna try to get it moving 75-80gr at 3,000+I ran my tiny 14 inch gasser and only felt under gunned on a few stages. That said, I will be training on a 308 bolt gun this year. I'm more conformable on a gasser but I need to expand my skill set.
2020 was my first year shooting secondary position, 2019 I shot primary and our secondary ran a 223 gasser. This year I ran a shorter barreled (14 inch) 223 gas gun, I have always been a gas gun guy. 2021 I will be running a 308 bolt gun and training up on bolt guns all year.What do most teams run on the secondary rifle? Bolt or AR? 223 or 308?
the aluminum 9mm was genius, good call on that. I was behind y’all on the last ruck ?, didn’t know who you were but was surprised when the standings were called. Congrats and good job on the shootingHere's my gear load out from the match this year. I ran primary with a 6mm CM, secondary shot a .223.
What rangefinder did you use that you are looking to replace and why?For me this match was really a life changing experience and i know some will say its just another match but for me it was more that that. I started training for this back in june july and thought i had my shit together. Well after 5 mins riding down to range 6 i knew i was going to be in for a rude awakening with all those hills. I made it through day one and came up short on the second ruck on day two due to a knee injury. (luckily nothing is torn but was told i had "Pes Anserine Bursitis" and while nothing permanent it sucks ass let me tell you) I have never felt like i let someone down so much in my life but that failure has motivated me to train even harder for next year. i started at 5'6 290 in july and on friday i was at 265 when i got home i was 257. My new goal is 190 for mammoth 21 and to get down to a 13min mile. I heard people talk about weighing oz's and let me tell you friday i started with a 41.80 pack on sat morning i was a 34.7 you learn real fast that extra battery and extra pen the little bag holding all of it adds up. For me training in eastern nc its very flat I would tell anyone thinking about doing it next year to start now and you better be able to run a 13min mile on flat ground because those hills are no joke and don't run on nice clean trails they had us on the curb of the roads most was flat a lot was uneven.
As for the shooting part that was the easy part you really learn how to shoot without all the extra crap. we had guys carry tripods all weekend to only get to use them really only once. My teammate and I while we had never shot a team match before had shot matches together we made great plans and executed them very well. practice with your gear learn what you can and can't do with it. I shot my 6 dasher with a 5-25 atacr milc at 13.8 lbs I will most likely have a carbon barrel made for it just for matches like this. my partner shot one of my Rock river 223 with a 24" upper and a 4-16 atacr milc. if you don't have good range finders you need some and as we found out you need to make sure you know how to use each other's gear. another great tool i had was my garmin watch being able to track time was helpful you could see just how much walking up those hill slowed you down and you could make adjustments.
test gear a lot in all conditions, test your pack wear it around the yard the house everywhere if it is not comfortable sell it trade it try another one. don't be afraid to make changes and if you ask your do i need this item nope you don't. i am already looking at new packs different rangefinders
Lastly the people you meet is awesome we met a lot of great people in the squad and the ro's and our squad boss was awesome.
for those thinking about this i can say its an experience ill never forget and look forward to making the challenge next year.
i took the Sig kilo3000 binos and at 2.5 lbs they stayed in the room day 2 just too heavy. i had my kilo 2200 as a backup pair light and all is really needed. you need something that is accurate and can punch through light grass. most importantly make use you know how to use yours and your partners.What rangefinder did you use that you are looking to replace and why?
It’s not invite only, not sure why it would say that. Check their Facebook page for most up to date info. That’s where they seem to post the most.Maybe im not looking in the right place, but what appears to be the main website says the competition is invite only? What are the qualifications if so?
I think what your seeing is after it fill when spots came open the we’re by invite or Wait listers. I think it fill in just a few daysMaybe im not looking in the right place, but what appears to be the main website says the competition is invite only? What are the qualifications if so?
Yes, getting regular updates on your progress is CRITICAL to making sure you're good on time. Of course, for some super-quick guys they don't have to worry about it, but if you're anywhere near time hack you want to stay updated. Build a cushion early, then monitor it. Personally, I've always used the RUNKEEPER app on my phone. I have my phone mounted up on my pack strap, close to my face. It gives an audible update on time, pace, distance, etc every five minutes, so you don't keep looking down, or making the Garmin the fresh paint that never dries (ie you look at it TOO often). Of course, that means keeping a battery charger with you.Not everyone moves at the same pace. The only time there was a large group was the last ruck. Tracking is good to make sure you'll be on time and aren't falling behind. Some of the longer rucks saw our squad strung out to where we couldn't see each other. We all made the time but when you're tired, moving across terrain and not knowing what's ahead with bad weather I'll take the tracking as insurance.
Link to that app is at runkeeper.com. Every time I try to paste in the link, it brings in what looks like an advertisement.Yeah i liked how yours sounded off pace and distance every 5 minutes without having to look at it. I was using the underarmour app and looking at my phone wayyy to much, it would only sound off every mile the way i had it setup.
I'm sure everyone has their own way, but I carry everything I can in magazines, and the rest in factory boxes. I use factory boxes because they are (1) light, (2) protective, and (3) I don't mind dumping them as the match goes on to minimize space / weight. Just my $0.02
We carried our rifle and pistol ammo in plastic bags zip-lock. Saves a lot on space, a little on ammo, and keeps them dry if you get any rain.
2020 CG requested we download all mags for each movement. It wasn't heavily enforced but was mentioned before each stage.I'm sure everyone has their own way, but I carry everything I can in magazines, and the rest in factory boxes. I use factory boxes because they are (1) light, (2) protective, and (3) I don't mind dumping them as the match goes on to minimize space / weight. Just my $0.02
I've got a paddle-style retention holster and mag carrier - would it make sense to remove them while transitioning but simply load up and put them on my belt once I reach a stage? Trying to see if it makes more sense to switch to a dropleg retention holster..There’s no need for quick deployment at the stage, they will give you time to retrieve gear and do a stage break down and depending on what position you shoot there is more time to prepare/pack. Last year because of base rules we were not allowed to transition between stage locations with loaded magazines. So you were stripping them down and loading up at each stage. Austin already beat me to it
Make sure the way your holster and equipment sits you won’t lose your sidearm inadvertently from doing stuff like taking your pack off or transitioning positions during a stage. If that happens while the firearm is loaded and not even a round in the chamber it will still earn you a match dq.
I'm running a sub belt with inner Velcro belt. Just leave everything on the belt and strap it on when I need to.I've got a paddle-style retention holster and mag carrier - would it make sense to remove them while transitioning but simply load up and put them on my belt once I reach a stage? Trying to see if it makes more sense to switch to a dropleg retention holster..
What!?!? That blows dude, I'll get one of those RIP airbrush shirts to remember you at the match.Man I’m gonna be switching up positions at my work and am at the mercy of the oil industry so we are gonna be backing out this year
But if you wanna borrow some gear or try it let me know