Rifle Scopes max range for a tasco 4x16x40 it has range adjust

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I just bought a new scope i bought a tasco world class 4x16x40 i plan on mounting it on my tikka t3 lite 308. shootin 110 grain ultamax hp ammo.. whats the max range i should get. i like shootin yotes at extended ranges so i hope it works. just lookin for some input.... and i know there is better scopes out there i have 2 leopolds
 
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lol 100 yards . do u know your scopes at all. 4x16x40 . lol i shoot 100 yards with a 3x9 on my 10/22 . i was bein serious i didnt need a wise ass post thanx anyways
 
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I meet a guy that had one at the range and I was trying to spot my shots @300 with my .223 but couldn't see them with my 10x(was trying to group on paper with no shoot-n-see). So asked if I could look through his scope and it looked horrible at 300.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silent death</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i was bein serious i didnt need a wise ass post thanx anyways </div></div>

I see you now changed your title and original post, Of course my post is going to seem like I'm a wise ass now. But let's be a wise ass, do you really want to find out whats the max distance with the internal travel your scope has? Get off the freaking computer and go shoot! Thats how you're going to find out what your equipment is capable of. One more thing from Mr. Wiseass, I'm sure if you have a <span style="color: #CC0000">Leopold</span>. It can't be better than that tasco. Now if it were a Leupold, yes it would be better.
 
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It was really not that simple a question.

That scope will be more capable at 4x than at 16x.

And your max range will depend more on the ammunition, and the conditions, and the size of your target than on your scope.

How much elevation travel does the scope have the way it is mounted now, and what reticle is in it? That should immediately tell you the theortical max range.

BTW - One reason we have trouble keeping people here is because they violate the rules, resort to personal attacks and get themselves banned.
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Calm down boys.
I think the maximum effective range of any scope is not the 4x or 16x but how far you can place rounds and see where they hit or not based on the clarity of the scope at a given range and magnification.
example: I can shoot a good fixed 10x on a .308 bolt gun to 200 yards and still make out 30 caliber holes.
On a cheap 24x I can just make out the same holes at the same range but i have to squint a bit.
cheap glass = lower optical quality.
USO 5x25 I can see .22 caliber holes at 300 yards.
Another factor will be your vision, do you wear correctable lenses when shooting with a scope?
 
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Are you talking max range of being able to see the target clearly?

Or, max range of accurate shooting?

Or, max elevation adjustment of the reticle travel?

Lazy's first answer really wasn't far off the mark since clarity of the chinese made Tascos is quite crappy.

Secondly, to answer your response to him, YES he does know his scopes. Do some research and grow a bit thicker skin if you really want to hang around here.

Thirdly, have some respect for the varmints you are shooting and call them in closer. No since taking an iffy long range shot at a live animal with questionable optics and questionable shooting skill.

And finally. The only way to answer the question you posed is to quote Lazy again, "Go out and shoot it"...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">USO 5x25 I can see .22 caliber holes at 300 yards.</div></div>That's impressive.
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I mean: Both mathematically and genetically impressive.
 
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Tasco used to make good scopes (Jap); I don't rate them now (not Jap). However, if it it holds together on the 308 it should take it out to 600m or so, but without dialing you are going to struggle. Better shoot to point blank range which is about 200m with a 308. I wouldn't trust Tasco's tracking much but so long as you are not clicking range and wind the whole time then it could be just fine.

I have older Tasco's on spring airguns (which beat up poor scopes) and they all have different coloured glass. From really good to pretty disappointing. Its the quality of the glass that gives the clarity necessary to keep groups small at range. So long as you are shooting in daylight, you should get a good sight picture which is all you need.

Shoot with it and if it works, great, and if it doesn't then you are back to the drawing board. I have a friend with a Tasco on his deer rifle that has given sterling service for what seems forever. He doesn't shoot anything further than 200m so he doesn't need a 2k scope.
 
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I read Varmint Al's web page 10 or 12 years ago and then got a Tasco World Class Plus 10x40x50 scope with big turrets [just like a super sniper] for $200.

I was swapping it with it's 30mm rings from surplus sporterized rifle to rifle, testing the rifles at the range. I was happy with it, as on 40X the target at 100m was very clear and I could see how much the wooden benchrests shook. I could easily see a fly crawling on the target at 100m. It was a high performance scope for $200.
Then one day I was screwing on the turrets to sight it in for another rifle, and the image grew a tree of lens cracks.
It was under warranty and I sent it in.
A little over a year and half later they sent me a new scope.
I took the new scope to a gun store and traded it for ~$100 credit on condition they warn who ever buys it that it is not reliable.

Since then I have been testing with an old Leupold vari iii 6.5x20x40 boosted by Premier Reticles to 13x40x40 and Stoney point turrets added [~$500]. That scope has never hesitated to function in 10 years of testing rifles. What a difference $300 makes.
 
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I wont be shooting 1000 yard shots with it . but i just wanted to make sure i could shoot them at 400. i bought the scope from midway usa to try out. around here in ny we dont have many places to shoot that far. the scope didnt cost much so if something happends wit it i wont be to upset. but what i really meant in my question was with my rifle the 308 tikka t3 lite with a 110 grain shell with this scope . what should i exspect at 300 to 400 yards as far as accuracy?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silent death</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wont be shooting 1000 yard shots with it . but i just wanted to make sure i could shoot them at 400. i bought the scope from midway usa to try out. around here in ny we dont have many places to shoot that far. the scope didnt cost much so if something happends wit it i wont be to upset. but what i really meant in my question was with my rifle the 308 tikka t3 lite with a 110 grain shell with this scope . what should i exspect at 300 to 400 yards as far as accuracy? </div></div>

Again, I will quote Lazy and add myself to the mix. The only way you will know the accuracy of your combination (the scope by itself does not make up for a bad load, an inaccurate rifle or one's shooting skills)is to go out and shoot the darned thing.

To even remotely hazard a guess as to what you are capable of shooting would be stupid on anyone's part.

Accuracy comes from many things working in harmony with each other, not just by adding a higher powered scope. I can take one of my Benchrest or varmint guns that are capable of 1/4" accuracy and put a cheap scope on it. With that scope, it might just keep shooting at 1/4", or groups could open up to over 1-1/2 inches at 100 yards. Many things come into play. The ability of the erector system to hold zero. The ability to remove parallax at the yardage you are shooting, and even the ability of the shooter to clearly see the target.

The only way to find out is once again, go shoot it and find out for yourself.

Do you know how well the rifle will shoot with a quality scope known to hold zero and be parallax free?

Have you shot the 110gr loads with such a set-up to determine basic accuracy of the rifle itself?

If all is acceptable, then add the Tasco and see if it shoots as well as the previous setup.

I've done quite a lot of coyote hunting. I have shot them from ten feet to over 450 yards. In each circumstance, I knew before hand what the rifle, ammunition and scope was capable of. I have also missed them at twenty five yards because some days, I can't hit the broad side of a barn. We all have those days.

You got upset with me for questioning your shooting ability. So be it. We all at one time have to admit to questionable or even poor shooting. It's part of life.
I don't know you, your rifle or your abilities. Based on your question, I have to add in the fact that you might not have much experience with shooting or hunting. If you have a bunch of experience, you wouldn't be on here asking questions that you've been told numerous times the only way to answer them is to go out and shoot the combination...

We are here to help, but you gotta help yourself too. If you come on here as a newbie and start calling experienced shooters out and calling them derogatory names, you won't last too long.

Lastly, I go by Mike. And if you are going to address me by my last name, it is spelled correctly for you in my sig line. CASSELTON. I still prefer Mike though
 
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ive been hunting since i was 11 . and for your information iam a moderator on another site. and ive never seen people get harped on the way they do here.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silent death</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ive been hunting since i was 11 . and for your information iam a moderator on another site. and ive never seen people get harped on the way they do here. </div></div>


what are you, 13?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silent death</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> iam a moderator on another site. and ive never seen people get harped on the way they do here. </div></div>

Is this the forum?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silent death</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> iam a moderator on another site. and ive never seen people get harped on the way they do here. </div></div>

Is this the forum? </div></div>

That is some funny shit right there
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. YEAH ITS FUNNY SHIT . YOU PEOPLE CRACK ME UP . GONNA RIP ON SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY DONT USE A 3 TO 400 DOLLAR SCOPE YOU ALL WOULDNT BE LIKED AROUND HERE .
If you dont think iam a moderator look up hung4wheeler on stripers247. my name is Gary L .
 
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Really, get some thicker skin man, I was heckled when I first joined, but that was my mistake, I took it in stride and kept going. If you knew everyone here was running expensive scopes, you should have thought twice about posting.

Also, even 300-400 dollar scopes are considered low end, just an fyi.
 
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SD take it easy.. really they are just funning with you. Seriously you have answered your own question. You have a Leupy so you know quality optics. And you ask if a Tasco can get out to 400 yards. First off you know that Tasco is not in the top tier of scopes, that said there repeatability is questionable. Meaning that you may have a good one or a bad one... no one knows. You will have to go out and shoot and see and perform a box test to account for any internal errors and make your own mind up.

Heck when I got a NightForce I did the same test ... just because it has NF on the tube does not mean that it is not crap. It just means that there is a lesser chance to get crap. There are plenty of threads on multiple sites where even US Optics have had an issue and had to get sent back.

If you are asking if the magnification will get you out there well yes but that is dependent on the clarity of the glass. Again Tasco is not known for there multi coatings and is also dependent on your eyes ONLY you can tell, you have the scope. Odds are that Tasco may have durability and tacking issues-- but that is the scope that you bought so go try it.


Again I am just saying you know the answer but asking this form for honesty about a Tasco Scope ... seriously?

I hope that helps a bit ... good luck and welcome to the Hide.

-K
 
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around here there aint many places to shoot long distances so not many people do . as for bein called 11 i thought it was just funny . guys around here use 3x9 scopes on there rifles . i guess it just depends on where u are. if you go into the stores around here you have a choice on tasco bushnell or a high priced leopold maybe. so there aint many options. em i a newbie at hunting . NO . but i em a newbie in long range shooting . thats why iam here . but i dont need to be bashed over it eathier . just sayin. i have a number of cheaper scopes that work real good . And i orderd the scope and iam waiting for it . i just wanted to here reviews on it before it arrived . aparently i was wrong sorry .
 
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Nothing wrong with 3x9 scopes, all my hunting rifles have 3x9 scopes and they're good for shooting very accurately at maybe 300 yards if not more. If you want to get into precision shooting, going cheap on the glass isn't going to cut it, but you don't need to spend $2000 dollars or more to get good glass. The scope on my rifle is a 300 dollar scope, its getting replaced with a 700 dollar weaver scope that has gotten good reviews, just a word of advice, save up some cash and buy a good scope, it'll be better for you in the long run as you are buying durability as well as great performance and better glass the more you pay.

Oh, and another word of advice, the guys here are very keen on grammar and spelling, the messages you are typing are just screaming for people to attack you, not trying to sound rude, just telling it how it is.
 
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Gary, if you're going to play. This crap gets expensive! If you actually go back and read my first two post on your thread. I never attacked you, I was just giving you my opinion and nothing else. Like I said, be careful if you're looking getting into it. I've been eating noodles for some time to get my $300-$400 scopes

 
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Gary,

We are trying to help you. But, you seem to want an answer that nobody can give with 100% accuracy. The thing you need to do is start off at 100 yards and shoot your rifle to assess its accuracy potential with your chosen load and optics. With luck, you should be able to get groups around 1-1/2 inches or better. If you get better accuracy, then that's great.

Let's say for sake of argument that your rifle shoots five shot groups at 100 yards of exactly one inch. Then at two hundred yards, your rifle in theory is capable of two inch groups. Your groups at three hundred would in theory would be three inches... infinitum.

If your rifle shoots 1-1/2" at one hundred, then the two hundred yard groups would be 3" and 4 -1/2 at three hundred.

So, depending on what the basic accuracy of your rifle is at 100 yards, that will determine (In theory)What the GUN is capable of at longer ranges.

Now, let's factor reality into the picture:

What else do we have to contend with in a hunting situation?

The need for a steady, stable and repeatable rest? Sure.

A rapidly rising heartbeat? Probably.

Wind? Most likely.

Other outside distractions. Yep.

A moving animal? Maybe

Basic human error. Without a doubt.

Confidence or lack thereof? Could be.

All of the above factors can and will influence how you handle a shooting situation on a varmint with a 5-6" kill zone.

You say you've been hunting since you were 11 yrs old. How well do you do with your other rifles on animals like deer? Do you have the confidence and ability to kill deer cleanly 100% of the time at 400 yards? Have you gone out and practiced on groundhogs? They make a great target, are very easy to put down, but you still have to have the skills and the accurate tools to do the job.

It really still goes back to the basics that you still have to shoot the rifle to know its capabilities and your own.

Gary,
I'm willing to help you out any way I can, but I won't bicker and fight with you on the internet.
If you would like to call me and discuss anything said, PM me, I'll give you my phone # and I'll gladly do whatever is necessary to get you started in the right direction.

Mike
 
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Just go shoot! We could all say yes, it will work, but you won't know till YOU try it out. Try the Tasco. If that still doesn't work for you, try using one of your leopolds/ Leupolds.

You can't hit what you can't see. Your best glass should be on a long range rig if you're on a budget. Can the Tasco work? Yes! Are there much much better choices, absolutely! Even without going above 400$, there are great options in the Falcon Menace or super sniper line compared to the Tasco.

You're talking a lot about scopes, but can you make long range hits? If you're new to long range, work on making consistent hits at 200-400 before trying to hit an animal. As a long time hunter you owe it to the animals to be humane, varmint or otherwise.
 
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Not exactly the same scope as you're talking about but I once shot a Tasco 3X9 at 700 yards....broadside, right through the erectors.

Might have been a lucky shot though........
 
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but the following are NOT words.
"aint", "leopold", "em", "iam", "eathier", and "bein".
These were all pulled out of one single post.
Please use real words, and at minimum semi-correct grammar. Otherwise you just look stupid, and won't be taken as seriously as you would probably like.
 
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As far as quality of the scope- you may get lucky and get a good one. My brother gave me a Tasco World Class 3x9-50 that came with his used 7mm Rem Mag (there was a reason he took it off the rifle...) which we ended up using to try to replicate the infamous "Carlos Hathcock" shot. It did not work.
 
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Interesting thread, when we started shooting to 1000 yards with the lil short guns a lot of shooters made fun of us when we showed up to shoot a match. We started with a 2 1/5-8 pistol scope and hit steel all the way out. Luckily we have good eyesight which helps but man what a struggle to see even the big targets. Then moved to a 4-12 power pistol scope, better but still a struggle but hit more of the smaller targets even at the 1000 yard line. Now we use decent rifle scopes (Vortex Viper 4-16 PST) and are pretty darn happy and have no problem with even the 8" circle at 1000 yards. Took the short gun to TVP once, was doing really well but got to one stage, target not real far out... maybe 400 yards but absolutely could not see it even with the 4-12X pistol scope. It just didn't have the clarity to pick the shot up target out of the brown grass behind it. You can't shoot what you can't see, with better glass the rifle guys were able to pick it out and hit it.

What that is leading up to is if you can see your target with any scope clearly and it works and tracks as intended then you're limited mostly by how well you can see your target, how precisely it'll repeat a known setting for a certain distance and most important of all your abilites. Usually the more money you spend the better optics you get which lets you see smaller farther targets easier which lets you get a lot more hits. I think there might be a plateau that spending more money will see very small increases in quality but are plenty useful for most competition levels us mere mortals will shoot at.

Like others have said, only way you're gonna know the scopes and your limitations is to go out and shoot and see where your equipments limits are. Really no way to just ask the question and get a real answer. After a shoot others will come up and ask about our short guns and want to look thru the scopes and a lot just couldn't believe we hit anything with such awful optics before the Vortex upgrade. With the better rifle scopes now we don't feel handicapped optically. We did just put one of the new SS 5-20 on our new rifle build and that is another step up from our Vortex PST. When you have used the best it's really hard to drop back to even an average optic. But when you start with awful and get used to it then anything up the optic ladder is a real eye opener.

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When I started reading rec.guns on usenet groups in 1994, I read about Leupold scopes.
They seemed way too expensive.
Eventually, through enough hard knocks, I have learned to avoid:
Cheap scopes
Cheap barrels
Cheap bullets
Cheap stocks
Cheap scope rings
Cheap binoculars
Cheap range finders
Cheap bipods

10 years ago Ken Marsh had a web site called the cheap scope page.
In there he answered the question, "What to do with a cheap scope?"
The answer was, "Give it to someone you don't like."
Frank has made it clear to go easy on newbies, so we should gently but firmly guide them away from cheap scopes.
 
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There is a lot of give and take in this forum. I like it because I can take it, or leave it.. If you can't take the heat get out of the bedroom.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SIG700</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not trying to be a dick, but the following are NOT words.
"aint", "leopold", "em", "iam", "eathier", and "bein".
These were all pulled out of one single post.
Please use real words, and at minimum semi-correct grammar. Otherwise you just look stupid, and won't be taken as seriously as you would probably like.
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Yeah you're being dick, you just registered last month and you're the newest Grammar Cop.....but I know what you mean, the way we Americans butcher the King's English is just unforgivable.

On aside, if your heart's set on being a syntax nazi here, then you might want to get your own ducks in a row first. What states are UH and VI, in your sig line?

Never heard of....'em.

I should add too, as long as being a dick is cool, from my persective here in God's Country, that PA isn't really a valid state as the western half should have been claimed by West Virginia, and the eastern half claimed by Jersey. If you don't believe me then you just don't know your own "state".

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