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McRaven sides with Brennan

You know what? It was ridiculous, even before Obama overtly politicized and weaponized every DC agency, to think these deep state managers and directors were EVER non-partisan, “professionals”. They were always biased, totally political, and dedicated to protecting their little kingdoms over the good of the nation. Obama just pulled out all the stops, and their veneer of professionalism fell away. It’s probably a good thing. Believing in and having confidence in federal agencies is retarded. They’re only as good as the people inhabiting them, and that’s no better than the people outside them...reality.
 
winning and winning

“Did I trigger your liberal cuck tears, snowflake? What about Benghazi? What about her emails? What about Obummer’s long-form birth certificate? Mueller’s the traitor, traitor. You want sharia communism, don’t you? How much is Soros paying you? You’re the real racist, shill.” - Ad infinitum.
 
Its is one of the biggest travesties yet epitomizes the swamp and corruption in our government the fact that high level officials get to keep their clearances. Anyone else in the gov, when you leave the possition your access gets revoked in JPAS and you do NOT have access to classified material or facilities anymore.

Going back to the days of the OSS when they created the CIA without authorization and funding, these slime-ball fucks have been slowing taking control of our country for over 80 years.

Pray tell why Susan Rice, Brennan, Mcraven, Mcrystal, Colin Powel, Condy Rice or anyone other than perhaps a retired president, needs to keep a clearance. They are no longer serving (funny right like these dickheads ever served anyone but their own selves), and there is ZERO reason for them to not have all their access and privileges revoked.

Trump needs to create an EO that covers this exact shit, and help drain the swamp just a little more.
 
When you lose NTK, your clearance is not revoked but you no longer have the clearance active. If you move on to another job that requires the clearance, your clearance is reactivated. When your clearance is revoked it means any new job will require a whole new investigation, which may be denied.

Think if it like POST certification. If you leave SLMPD, you don't lose your POST certification, you just aren't a cop anymore. If you then get hired with ISP or a muni PD, your POST certification matters again, but you don't have to redo it completely as long as it's current.

This looks an awful lot like exercising executive powers to punish people who talked bad about him. Of course SHS says it wasn't that, but true to form Trump had to come out and say it was that. Hey what do we call it when the government punishes someone for saying something they don't like?

Bitch you can forget the way things have been done forever, there's a new sheriff in town.

These clearances are a privilege and a courtesy. Their conduct has shown them to be unfit to continue to receive it.

Brennan, McRaven, and a whole long list of assholes have made it clear they are a threat to the Republic when they think they can subvert the will of the electorate.

They're lucky, and can thank whatever little rule of law we have left, that they're still breathing........that wouldn't be so in most other countries.
 
When you lose NTK, your clearance is not revoked but you no longer have the clearance active. If you move on to another job that requires the clearance, your clearance is reactivated. When your clearance is revoked it means any new job will require a whole new investigation, which may be denied.

Kind of like when you buy an NFA item and go through all the bs you have to go through proving you are a citizen in good standing (apparently more paperwork and background check to buy a suppressor than to run for POTUS) - then the week after that you have to have to go through all the same BS with another NFA item even though nothing changed?

Yeah, I don't feel sorry for him. Maybe he should get a real job like the rest of us instead of living off the taxpayers.
 
Really? These guys did nothing wrong, and we’re all just making it up as conspiracy theory? We already know they’re all liars. It’s 100% proven they were lying to Congress, you know, those elected people who are supposed to have OVERSIGHT so the government stays under the control of the people? It’s you who are living in fantasy land if you think Obama stayed within the lines of The Constitution, but this President doesn’t. It’s your bullshit leftist politics, not facts or reality. This is a soft and on going coup attempt. Muller’s ‘Investigation’ is the culmination. They got nuthin’. If they did it would have leaked long ago. Yer fuked. Winning.
 
Never understood why this is such a big deal. I get it for the period during the transition between administrations, etc.

I’ve never been fired from a job, but I did quit a few for other opportunities and ......oddly enough..... they never let me keep the keys to the front door or the alarm codes. I’d still talk to people I worked with about the goings on of things if they had questions, perhaps even invited back to help with a particular problem that they couldn’t figure out, but I still had to give up my free access I once had. I know that’s not the same as a security clearance, but it is a parallel and the rest of the world works like that.

Wonder why the .gov doesn’t think they should operate the same way???

This is another example (love it or hate it) of a man calling the shots who has zero experience in how “the system” is used to doing things. He is a buisinessman that runs the administration like a business and the swamp doesn’t understand it and they surely don’t like it. I find it refreshing....not always perfect or right.....but refreshing.
 
No, this is more like if you could get an NFA license, and then you had it revoked for criticizing the president. Sort of a textbook case of the government trying to punish an individual for speaking out. That's why Trump is saying the opposite thing of SHS. She's trying to cover their collective asses, and he's dumb enough to admit to it.
So I guess you are OK with the CIA being used to influence the outcome of a Presidential Election.
 
No, this is more like if you could get an NFA license, and then you had it revoked for criticizing the president.
Security clearances are a condition of employment. Your analogy sucks ass and shows how hard you idiots are grasping at straws.

tick tock......tick tock......

tick tock......tick tock......

tick tock......tick tock......
 
Maybe, maybe not. It could be as simple as "hmmm, what can I do right now to fuck this guy and make him look like a bitch?"
You might be right on this. Just having a clearance is pretty lucrative financially especially if you have a name to go along with it. It opens up prospects for jobs all over the place whether you are qualified or not. So ya, he could just be screwing him over by taking away an easy paycheck in the private sector. -just a thought
 
Anyone that doesn't felate the Twitter troll in Chief is obviously a marxists leftist SJW and the deep state (a hereto unknown organization) actually setup Donald Trump to take him down.

Or

The Republican Special Counsel that was appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General is conducting a legitimate investigation that hasn't reached it's conclusion. And Republicans are attempting to discredit it because the information that is already public like the Trump Tower meeting, and information that congressional leaders have access to that we can't see already indicates that some people in the Trump camp are guilty as fuck.
Manafort looks guilty of keeping foreign money offshore and not paying taxes on it. He was brought in for the convention, which he had done several times. Hardly an insider. Hardly impugns the administration. What is the crime Don Jr. Committed meeting with Veselnitskya? Be careful, because we already know what Hillary, Fusion GPS, and Podesta did. If we’re going to invent a crime Don Jr. Did then what is paying a foreign agent to go to Russia and get dirt on your opponent? Put them side by side, and what looks shadier? A meeting, or a full blown foreign opo operation?
 
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So Trump should fire that republican an appoint a new special council that is not bringing political bias to the Hilary Russia collusion probe.

Anyone that doesn't felate the Twitter troll in Chief is obviously a marxists leftist SJW and the deep state (a hereto unknown organization) actually setup Donald Trump to take him down.

Or

The Republican Special Counsel that was appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General is conducting a legitimate investigation that hasn't reached it's conclusion. And Republicans are attempting to discredit it because the information that is already public like the Trump Tower meeting, and information that congressional leaders have access to that we can't see already indicates that some people in the Trump camp are guilty as fuck.
 
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Manafort looks guilty of keeping foreign money offshore and not paying taxes on it. He was brought in for the convention, which he had done several times. Hardly an insider. Hardly impugns the administration. What is the crime Don Jr. Committed meeting with Veselnitskya? Be careful, because we already know what Hillary, Fusion GPS, and Podesta did. If we’re going to invent a crime Don Jr. Did then what is paying a foreign agent to go to Russia and get dirt on your opponent? Put them side by side, and what looks shadier? A meeting, or a full blown foreign opo operation?

Just wait and find out.
 
Anyone that doesn't felate the Twitter troll in Chief is obviously a marxists leftist SJW and the deep state (a hereto unknown organization) actually setup Donald Trump to take him down.

Or

The Republican Special Counsel that was appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General is conducting a legitimate investigation that hasn't reached it's conclusion. And Republicans are attempting to discredit it because the information that is already public like the Trump Tower meeting, and information that congressional leaders have access to that we can't see already indicates that some people in the Trump camp are guilty as fuck.

...and you dismiss the origin of the "Dirty Dossier".

...and you dismiss that had Beealzabub himself walked up to Hillary and said "Hey we have some dirt on Trump" she would have fell to her knees and drained his horn as she is usually want to do with Huma.

....and you dismiss that Mueller goes and puts together a team of Democrats for his "fair and impartial" investigation.

....and you dismiss that Mueller and the other principles are up to their eyeballs in shit that wasnt supposed to come to light because Hillary was supposed to be POTUS - I know Uranium One and the Clinton Global Initiative are tinfoil hat territory to you and Im just a crack pot.

...and you dismiss Petey Strokeit and his paramour actively planning a coup and they didnt do this on their own.

....and you dismiss HandyAndy McCabe and his "We are going to Fuck this Guy" because his wife couldnt win her election despite Hillarys $700K donation to her campaign. No divided loyalty there yet Trumps off the cuff remark about the Russians sending him emails is concrete proof of 'collusion" the collusion we havent seen in 1.5 years of investigation.

.....and you dismiss the fact Mueller is the type of justice loving scum bag that in order to protect his corrupt FBI cabal would keep four known innocent men in jail in Boston because to do otherwise would expose the FBI's corruption. This despite the families of the victims were even saying the four were not guilty. The two or three that survived their time in jail ended up getting millions in tax money for their unlawful jail time.

Bang Bang I get it, you are either an FBI agent or perhaps someone that watches reruns of Efram Zimbalist Junior polishing his badge. Maybe even cross dressing J. Edgar is your ideal - talk about being blackmail material but if this thing you love so much is to be saved it must be completely cleansed with fire and it will be the line FBI agents - the supposed good guys - that do real work while these paper pushing never made a car stop hacks fuck the country over.

BangBang its time to look in the mirror and declare
“whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster”
 
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Manafort looks guilty of keeping foreign money offshore and not paying taxes on it. He was brought in for the convention, which he had done several times. Hardly an insider. Hardly impugns the administration. What is the crime Don Jr. Committed meeting with Veselnitskya? Be careful, because we already know what Hillary, Fusion GPS, and Podesta did. If we’re going to invent a crime Don Jr. Did then what is paying a foreign agent to go to Russia and get dirt on your opponent? Put them side by side, and what looks shadier? A meeting, or a full blown foreign opo operation?

I remember when Manafort was taken into the campaign.....

George Stephanopoulos and crew gushed over him.

How it was a great move for Trump to get someone with experience to replace Lewandowski. It was a move to make Trumps campaign viable against such a brilliant veteran as Hillary.

Go back and check out all that support for Manaforts experienced leadership during that period.

I have no doubt Manafort is a piece of shit and in it for Manafort. I think he lobbied his ass off to get in teh Trump campaign only as a means to grab some money as he was drowning in debt.

The campaign should never have taken him on a sign of their inexperience.

What everyone on the liberal side fails to realize though is that Trump got elected because he is inexperienced in the political arena.

The country is sick of people that live by Machiavelli and look at us as the enemy to use that "real politik" tactical program on.
 
You have no idea how this works libtard. Security clearances are just a plot by the deep state and free masons to make it easier for the Illuminati to stage a coup once AGENT Bigfoot takes over the weather machine in Alaska. Then Soros can turn up the global (ists) warming to finally kill all of those clean coal jobs in West Virginia.
I’m a simple man, when I see boobs or sarcasm, I hit like......

P.S. I don’t agree with your point of view by the way.... but it was still funny....
 
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...and you dismiss the origin of the "Dirty Dossier".

...and you dismiss that had Beealzabub himself walked up to Hillary and said "Hey we have some dirt on Trump" she would have fell to her knees and drained his horn as she is usually want to do with Huma.

....and you dismiss that Mueller goes and puts together a team of Democrats for his "fair and impartial" investigation.

....and you dismiss that Mueller and the other principles are up to their eyeballs in shit that wasnt supposed to come to light because Hillary was supposed to be POTUS - I know Uranium One and the Clinton Global Initiative are tinfoil hat territory to you and Im just a crack pot.

...and you dismiss Petey Strokeit and his paramour actively planning a coup and they didnt do this on their own.

....and you dismiss HandyAndy McCabe and his "We are going to Fuck this Guy" because his wife couldnt win her election despite Hillarys $700K donation to her campaign. No divided loyalty there yet Trumps off the cuff remark about the Russians sending him emails is concrete proof of 'collusion" the collusion we havent seen in 1.5 years of investigation.

.....and you dismiss the fact Mueller is the type of justice loving scum bag that in order to protect his corrupt FBI cabal would keep four known innocent men in jail in Boston because to do otherwise would expose the FBI's corruption. This despite the families of the victims were even saying the four were not guilty. The two or three that survived their time in jail ended up getting millions in tax money for their unlawful jail time.

Bang Bang I get it, you are either an FBI agent or perhaps someone that watches reruns of Efram Zimbalist Junior polishing his badge. Maybe even cross dressing J. Edgar is your ideal - talk about being blackmail material but if this thing you love so much is to be saved it must be completely cleansed with fire and it will be the line FBI agents - the supposed good guys - that do real work while these paper pushing never made a car stop hacks fuck the country over.

BangBang its time to look in the mirror and declare
“whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster”

Basically the Trump Defense relies on stretching the truth or just lying to jump from one what aboutism to the next.

Like the Strzok thing where a few text messages are taken out of context to perpetuate a conspiracy theory. Republicans thought they were going to score some sound bites for Fox News from the public hearing and instead had it blow up in their face.

The goalposts move constantly. First it was "We don't even know any Russians" to "Okay we know some Russians" to "Okay we took a meeting with Russians but we didn't know they were spies" to "Well okay we knew they were spies but it was really about adoptions" to where we are today "It was actually about getting dirt on Hillary. Collusion isn't a crime!"

Anyways last post for this thread because I know it's going to shit after this. If you want an in depth reply you can inbox me. No point in getting into a back and forth pissing match with the cuck brigade.
 
Basically the Trump Defense relies on stretching the truth or just lying to jump from one what aboutism to the next.

Like the Strzok thing where a few text messages are taken out of context to perpetuate a conspiracy theory. Republicans thought they were going to score some sound bites for Fox News from the public hearing and instead had it blow up in their face.

The goalposts move constantly. First it was "We don't even know any Russians" to "Okay we know some Russians" to "Okay we took a meeting with Russians but we didn't know they were spies" to "Well okay we knew they were spies but it was really about adoptions" to where we are today "It was actually about getting dirt on Hillary. Collusion isn't a crime!"

Anyways last post for this thread because I know it's going to shit after this. If you want an in depth reply you can inbox me. No point in getting into a back and forth pissing match with the cuck brigade.

Your first sentence is the Democratic agenda in a nut shell.

Your second sentence if it was about a Republican would be reason for the establishment media to be calling for the banishment of the Republican Party and a "DeRepublicanization" program to rival "Denazification".

The third sentence describes the Mueller campaign. First it was collusion, than it was what Manafort and anyone associated with teh campaign did as far back as their time of birth and now its obstruction. Oh and yes the Trump campaign did have Russian dressing with a salad so there is your collusion.


You are right this is going no where as long as you "Deflect, deflect, deflect......"
 
Basically the Trump Defense relies on stretching the truth or just lying to jump from one what aboutism to the next.

Like the Strzok thing where a few text messages are taken out of context to perpetuate a conspiracy theory. Republicans thought they were going to score some sound bites for Fox News from the public hearing and instead had it blow up in their face.

The goalposts move constantly. First it was "We don't even know any Russians" to "Okay we know some Russians" to "Okay we took a meeting with Russians but we didn't know they were spies" to "Well okay we knew they were spies but it was really about adoptions" to where we are today "It was actually about getting dirt on Hillary. Collusion isn't a crime!"

Anyways last post for this thread because I know it's going to shit after this. If you want an in depth reply you can inbox me. No point in getting into a back and forth pissing match with the cuck brigade.
Again......Lmaoooooooo!!!! Your definition of “a few text messages” between an active government agent and his slut.....err, I mean side chick......I mean..... alternative cock holster..... anyway those were not 3-5 texts (a few) “taken out of context” there were HUNDREDS of texts between this dude and his tramp talking about EXACTLY trying to effect the outcome of an election.


Gtfohwts
 
Basically the Trump Defense relies on stretching the truth or just lying to jump from one what aboutism to the next.

Pointing out the hypocrisy of these received, leftist, media opinions in light of the facts is nothing. The way you project above is completely Freudian. When conservatives say that "liberalism" (small L) is a mental disorder you are precisely what they are talking about.
 
When you lose NTK, your clearance is not revoked but you no longer have the clearance active. If you move on to another job that requires the clearance, your clearance is reactivated. When your clearance is revoked it means any new job will require a whole new investigation, which may be denied.

Think if it like POST certification. If you leave SLMPD, you don't lose your POST certification, you just aren't a cop anymore. If you then get hired with ISP or a muni PD, your POST certification matters again, but you don't have to redo it completely as long as it's current.

This looks an awful lot like exercising executive powers to punish people who talked bad about him. Of course SHS says it wasn't that, but true to form Trump had to come out and say it was that. Hey what do we call it when the government punishes someone for saying something they don't like?

Thats not how it works. There are timeliness to reactivation and many agencies will require a new BI and their own adjudication. The Clearence and the BI are two separate things. When someone leaves a cleared position, and is not going somewhere it is needed, it is suposed to be deactivated. Some places will grant a grace period such as 2 years before a new reinvestigation needs to be done. Lazy Security managers who don't do their job do not make what happens right. Read the regs.

These are not red blooded Americans. They are swamp dwelling partisan pieces of shit who a reasonable person could argue, have committed high treason and sedition. They have been using their access and influence to not only rig an election, but to sabotage a presidency and nation they all swore to protect. They have commited fellonous crimes and then worked to cover each others crimes up. They have illegaly wiretapped political candidates to influence elections.

It doesn't matter who, Everyone with the exception of an ex-president who still gets an SS detail and briefings, should have their access revoked. Why does a former CIA chief still need a clearance? So he can go get a $500K BOD job inside the beltway at Booze Allen or Lockheed? Fuck them and fuck anyone who makes excuses for them. You do realize they are leveraging this to fuck over the American people right? America doesn't win when its communist supporting, Muslim intel chief who tried to destroy this country from the inside, still has access to classified information.

People need to stay in their lane and stop talking about shit they don't understand.
 
Anyone that doesn't felate the Twitter troll in Chief is obviously a marxists leftist SJW and the deep state (a hereto unknown organization) actually setup Donald Trump to take him down.

Or

The Republican Special Counsel that was appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General is conducting a legitimate investigation that hasn't reached it's conclusion. And Republicans are attempting to discredit it because the information that is already public like the Trump Tower meeting, and information that congressional leaders have access to that we can't see already indicates that some people in the Trump camp are guilty as fuck.
HAHHAHAA Republican?

You mean like Jeff Flake, Lindsay Graham, John Mccain and Mcconnel? Those republics.

Shit with Friends like that who needs enemies.

Or are you talking about the Republican Mueller who oversaw the Uranium one deal and deep sixed any investigation into the Clinton Foundation a decade ago? Or do you mean his best friend Comey who layed out a slam dunk case and then says we aren't going to prosecute because there was no intent. Yea let me know how that works, Im going to go make a homade server that just about every foreign intel service has access to, take classified material from a SCIF and transmit across the unsecured server all while getting millions in donations to my "foundation".

You fucking anti trumpers are no different than the democrats. Useful fucking idiots.
 
Again......Lmaoooooooo!!!! Your definition of “a few text messages” between an active government agent and his slut.....err, I mean side chick......I mean..... alternative cock holster..... anyway those were not 3-5 texts (a few) “taken out of context” there were HUNDREDS of texts between this dude and his tramp talking about EXACTLY trying to effect the outcome of an election.


Gtfohwts

Go easy on BangBang.

There is some serious psychological stuff going on here that goes back to his childhood.

He is basically a good person with a fine firearms knowledge but there are loyalties that were developed in his past that require some finesse and time to obsolve.

He is a good man that has been implanted with a poison seed. Something that was done to him or his family which should have been a good experience is clouding his judgement.

Could be a good thing like membership in an agency that has gone astray. A good man belongs to something and develops a strong attachment than is met with huge cognitive dissonance when it is found what was supposed to be "good and positive" is discovered to be "evil and destructive".

Perhaps as a child he was a beneficiary of something meant to be helpful but based on a misunderstanding of communication here now believes some of the more harsh rhetoric applies to him.

My family at one time considered public assistance in order to make it through tough times and that is what the service is for. In fact I think it shameful that our country does not ensure the people of Appalachia or the people on the Crow Reservation of Montana are not taken better care of while an illegal person comes here and gets treated better.

My own parents grew up in the maritimes of Canada on islands that had a history of creating Cajuns in New Orleans by killing them on their little islands of Prince Edward and Cape Breton knowing the future would mean they would have to deal with the shit Quebec creates. Im a product of immigration but know my parents were made to do it legally.

So go easy on Bang Bang he has good qualities (loyalty) if totally misdirected and false in his aim.

Sadly what he believes in his efforts go totally against.

He will need our acceptance when he comes to the light and realizes he has lived a nightmare. I just hope he does it prior to committing the crimes the Communists require to fully absorb a member into their cult.

Its the way Communism works have a useful idiot commit a little crime, than exponentially have them commit bigger and bigger crimes until at some point they are so invested they can not change course because they are GUILTY.

Bang Bang be the Patriot you want to be and come to the truth.

I want you to be saved.
 
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Clearances are not revoked when you stop working. Specific access to a compact ENT may be, but as others joted there are timelines for reactivation. I did a stint with a contract security firm that aggressively hires vets with a clearance because reactivation is easier and cheaper than a new investigation.

You fucks don't get it. The way things were done in the past IS OVER.

And go fuck yourself with your smug intellectual arrogance. Trust me when I tell you that you're not the most intelligent person in the room.
 
It depends on the agency. Hiring a vet doesn't save shit when the whole investigation has to be started from scratch. Got a TS/SCI in dod and want to go to NSA? Fuck you pay me. The only thing the old clearance does is A. Means the person will probably pass so they are a smart hired and B. Makes getting an interium easier as the requirements are much laxer. On top of this every agency is different and there are levels within each stage that are handled differently. The agency ultimatley adjudicates based on OPM' investigation. Now moving from one agency to another there is sometimes reciprocity becuase a BI cost money and agencies have a budget. But when someone separates from DOD with a break in service that clearance should be revoked. It isint becuase security managers are typically low common denominator retards like HR.
 
Basically the Trump Defense relies on stretching the truth or just lying to jump from one what aboutism to the next.

Like the Strzok thing where a few text messages are taken out of context to perpetuate a conspiracy theory. Republicans thought they were going to score some sound bites for Fox News from the public hearing and instead had it blow up in their face.

The goalposts move constantly. First it was "We don't even know any Russians" to "Okay we know some Russians" to "Okay we took a meeting with Russians but we didn't know they were spies" to "Well okay we knew they were spies but it was really about adoptions" to where we are today "It was actually about getting dirt on Hillary. Collusion isn't a crime!"

Anyways last post for this thread because I know it's going to shit after this. If you want an in depth reply you can inbox me. No point in getting into a back and forth pissing match with the cuck brigade.
The above is comedy, sad comedy, as this is a solid description of what Mueller has been doing in this "investigation".
If these criteria were to be applied evenly many an actor on the blue team would be needing bail money.
I'd recite the Hillary list but it's obviously of no concern.
I'd recite the criminal acts of our supposed highest forms of law enforcement but obviously it's of no concern.
Put down the CNN, MSNBC, ect, ect, ect crack pipe...

R
 
It depends on the agency. Hiring a vet doesn't save shit when the whole investigation has to be started from scratch. Got a TS/SCI in dod and want to go to NSA? Fuck you pay me.

This is the only accurate statement I have read in this thread.

There is zero reciprocity in granting clearances between respective agencies. I held both DOD and Intel clearances. When I got audited by DISCO (DOD), I could not tell the auditor ANYTHING about the intel clearance....verboten. I knew one colleague who slipped up and tell a DISCO auditor about a clearance he held at an intel agency and guess what...intel clearance revoked...

The clearance world is quite convoluted and not easy to navigate. It is setup that way purposefully. I never understood it but I lived with it for over 15 years of my career.
 
I'm pretty sure my TS clearance got downgraded to Confidential when I left a ship where I handled crypto to go to a ship where I worked in engineering.

Also pretty sure I lost all of them when I left active duty.

But hey, Brennan and his ilk are more equal than others, right?
 
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