Media trying to turn this around........

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i dont give a fuck if you like trump....

i was referring to your particular statements:

And again, you ignored everything stated after that. For fucks sake, I’m agreeing with you that the American bureaucracy was actively working against your favorite political hero and that it’s illegal for jcos to stand in between the president and his military commander. Understanding someone’s motivation and condoning their choice of actions are two drastically different things.
 

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Trump was pissed off and venting, I totally get that. What I don't get and cant fathom is the stretch that he was going to nuke China or any other nation, especially since he isn't a war monger.
 

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    It’s been building for awhile, with his “I’m embarrassed to be white“ belly button gazing as Afghanistan fell to the Taliban, along with a lot of other small shit he’s been pulling these past couple years, but I can finally say I’m actually embarrassed to admit I served under this man when he was a Brigade Commander in AFG.

    I was a lowly Lt Col serving in the capacity of a NATO Liaison to the US forces at the time, but was billeted in a USAF post in RC East (later in RC South out of Kandahar). Remember briefing him on NATO air movements a number of times…he always seemed competant and clearly in command. He seemed like a typical Big Army guy who saw Air Power as just another form of fire, but was very sharp for all that.

    Hell, he even signed my end of tour “thanks for being here” certificate (suitable for framing!) along with the Brit Air Chief representing NATO there in Kabul, and I actually had it put in a wall mounted shadow box along with some other memorabilia from that time and place…

    I should be proud, so why do I now feel like it’s the same as having a signed letter from Benedict Arnold?

    I just pulled it down off the wall and put it in storage today…pondering whether I should just burn it, or mail it back to him with a short note saying “shame on you General”… or maybe auction it off to raise $$ for the 13 Marines who lost their lives a couple weeks ago while acting as rear guard for our shameful withdrawal.

    What a fucked up place we find ourselves these days.
     

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    It’s been building for awhile, with his “I’m embarrassed to be white“ belly button gazing as Afghanistan fell to the Taliban, along with a lot of other small shit he’s been pulling these past couple years, but I can finally say I’m actually embarrassed to admit I served under this man when he was a Brigade Commander in AFG.

    I was a lowly Lt Col serving in the capacity of a NATO Liaison to the US forces at the time, but was billeted in a USAF post in RC East (later in RC South out of Kandahar). Remember briefing him on NATO air movements a number of times…he always seemed competant and clearly in command. He seemed like a typical Big Army guy who saw Air Power as just another form of fire, but was very sharp for all that.

    Hell, he even signed my end of tour “thanks for being here” certificate (suitable for framing!) along with the Brit Air Chief representing NATO there in Kabul, and I actually had it put in a wall mounted shadow box along with some other memorabilia from that time and place…

    I should be proud, so why do I now feel like it’s the same as having a signed letter from Benedict Arnold?

    I just pulled it down off the wall and put it in storage today…pondering whether I should just burn it, or mail it back to him with a short note saying “shame on you General”… or maybe auction it off to raise $$ for the 13 Marines who lost their lives a couple weeks ago while acting as rear guard for our shameful withdrawal.

    What a fucked up place we find ourselves these days.

    I approve of your choice of avatar, Sir. When I was a lowly Sr Airman, I wouldn't have ever thought a Lt Col would be cool enough to be on something like SH and have a kick ass avatar like yours. Every Lt. Col I ever dealt with other than F15E pilots were cock biting bastards. Way to go above and beyond your piers. Im drinking a 🍺 to you tonight. Thank you for your service.
     
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    I approve of your choice of avatar, Sir. When I was a lowly Sr Airman, I wouldn't have ever thought a Lt Col would be cool enough to be on something like SH and have a kick ass avatar like yours. Every Lt. Col I ever dealt with other than F15E pilots were cock biting bastards. Way to go above and beyond your piers. Im drinking a 🍺 to you tonight. Thank you for your service.
    What if that's tranny ass?
     
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    What if that's tranny ass?
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    Trump just commented saying Biden will not fire Milley because Milley will leak the details of Bidens Afghanistan blunder.
     

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    Trump was pissed off and venting, I totally get that. What I don't get and cant fathom is the stretch that he was going to nuke China or any other nation, especially since he isn't a war monger.

    Its all spin. Trump wasn't going to war with China last January.
     

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    That guy talks like a bitch, acts like a bitch and looks like a bitch.
    - and yet he apparently was a good, competent officer not too long ago when he was performing actual military duties. If what has been alleged about him is true, this can't be explained as an example of the Peter Principle. How do you turn so hard away from all the training and education an officer receives as well as the oaths he swore to uphold?

    Potentially, Milley has been exposed as a rogue actor and he cannot be allowed to retain his position as chairman of the JCS or have any other position of responsibility until there has been a full investigation of his conduct. His phone line and computer access should be cut off RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Nobody should talk to him or consult with him on any matter of official government business. He should be refused access to any sensitive government facility. That none of this is happening is insane.
     

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    Media? Don't you mean Pravda?
    Is this when we start to trust and believe that the Pravda is telling the truth or isn't diverting attention?
    No doubt that the story is in the book. But, we know that these conversations are recorded/ listened in on and there's a transcript.
    So, just like that. The debacle in AFG is not the headline and in a couple days the WHOLE truth (cough cough) will come out and another storyline will get the narrative even further from the fact that the talkywhackers are wholesale slaughtering people in AFG.
    The new role model of the Pravda is to ignore. If they don't cover it. It didn't happen. So ask yourself. Why are all the major Pravda outlets covering this?
    Milley is still a POS but I believe something else is going on. And yes he could have done this but I will wait.
     

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    I think it all comes down to with this last election we had a power coup, plain and simple, against Donald Trump they’ve been trying for the last four years by the left side they’ve been so desperate to get rid of him because he’s been exposing nothing but their true hypocrisy and complete disregard to the American law this has been played out over and over again in California and many other states
    Do we really think that this just happen to be at the same time with the coronavirus? I think it was all an attemp to unseat Trump. They could get away with all the ballot tampering that they did. there’s really only one solution but no one wants to take that step because it’s just too out of the ordinary too uncomfortable and people are just too damn comfortable to make any sort of move
    what is anyone going to do about it?
    Nothing, nothing, ohh and nothing.
     

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    Its all spin. Trump wasn't going to war with China last January.

    This is a difficult one. Typically, spin is trying to alter the framing of a story without intentionally stating false information. It's the medias was of creating a new word for what they do to avoid being called liars. You see, the definition of a lie is to intentionally mislead -- therefore spin is literally a lie. But that sounds much worse than the word spin, though they are the same thing.

    So, while the media is lying by trying to frame this discussion in a way in which could potentially lead more people to see Milley as some kind of savior -- it's actually worse then that.

    You see, the conversation Milley had with China was in October of 2020, not January of 2021.

    I doubt it was the only conversation he has had with China in which he leaked classified information.

    Anyway, I agree with your statement -- argue the language you are using is the language THEY created. And they created it specifically to soften their own wrongdoing. We see this from the left all the time, and the right (right being anything to the right of far left) -- we seem to follow along far too often.

    We've got to be on our toes, 100% of the time, when dealing with the left. Their weapon of war is language and they're winning an awful lot of battles using it.

    So, in short, they're lying. They are flat out lying, Milley's calls to China, in relation to this specific incident, started back in October of 2020 -- long before the 1/6 narrative even was a thing. Which, in itself, was another lie by the media. They used language and terminology with legal distinctions that were not based in fact in order to create an emotional response. It worked because the right, by the right here I mean Republican leadership, allowed it. Not only allowed it but took part in the lies, as they often do.
     
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    Imagine if Throroughly Modern Milley had done this to the dementia moron in the White House. The braying of the word treason would be on the lips of the stooge media night and day till his hanging. As it is they are literally trying to excuse one of the biggest government crimes in our lifetimes, basically an admission that the head of the entire military is actually in charge and not the elected President.

    This is what post America looks like. There is on;y the Democrat party and nothing else. They may as well rename themselves for what they are.
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    and I’m not talking violence but unfortunately right now you’ve got massive differences between the city and rural outlook and we don’t have proper representation, assuming that votes actually matter.
    People should get together and show that all the white males or patriots that they lump all together and say were scumbags and are all racist . stop bringing in food into the city stop bringing all the oil and gas into the cities (all the major ones that are all democratic anyway) and watch them destroy themselves within a day
     

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    I support him…..as the election drew close, Trump went nuts knowing he was losing to an idiot.

    Does anybody disagree with that?
    First question did you serve in the military? If so what about your oath? Or are you saying that you think it's ok to violate your oath? There was a right way and treason to issue said concern. He chose treason and they are sharing the info to see where our society is at on the moral declination scale. Guess what dude your at the bottom.. shame on you.
     
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    Things can be done that on the surface would seem, rebellious, treasonous, a violation of an oath......depends on which side you're on defining "enemies domestic"
     
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    It certainly does. When blatant and bald faced racism is called “anti-racism”, when confiscatory taxes that would make any king or dictator blush are called “investment”, when the ignominious, dishonorable, and shameful retreat from Afghanistan is called “a success”, and when the Taliban are called our ”businesslike partners”, pretty much I’m not going to see eye to eye with a fucking thing you say or you write, because you are a fucking brainwashed moron who cannot be reasoned with and should not be negotiated with.
     
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    I spent 27 years in the military, in my opinion the guy is a fucking traitor.


    Trump did an amazing thing when he got elected president. He has shown all of us that the absolute shit of humanity lives and works in Washington D.C.

    Republicans gladly betrayed him at every turn because he was not from the political class. That piece of shit, Jeff Sessions is a shining example.

    Democrats undermined and betrayed him at every turn. Political scum within the military betrayed him and betrayed their oaths of office at every turn. They worked with our nation's enemies like Milley and the socialists to undermine morale and turn the military into a playground for sexual deviants and cowards.

    The FBI worked openly with one political party, the communists, to undermine the President, the FBI senior staff worked openly to undermine the election in 2016 and worked again in 2020 to rig and throw an election. A generation ago the FBI led the fight against communism, now they are it's most violent supporters.

    Our country is led by the absolute worst of the worst of people and they for some fucking reason seem to think they cannot be replaced or voted out. They are working to make it illegal to even speak out against them.

    So we have completely lost the ballot box. ............................................We are losing the soap box and our free speech. ......................................Maybe it is time for the Cartridge box to be put to good use????????
     
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