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Mexico anger high as US Border Patrol kills teen

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<span style="color: #CC0000">I'll be honest my pity is just about worn out on the immigration issue....</span>


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100609/ap_on_re_us/us_border_patrol_shooting

Mexico anger high as US Border Patrol kills teen

By OLIVIA TORRES and CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN, Associated Press Writers Olivia Torres And Christopher Sherman, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 46 mins ago
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.

U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.

"Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.

Preliminary reports on the incident indicated that U.S. officers on bicycle patrol "were assaulted with rocks by an unknown number of people," Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Ramiro Cordero said Tuesday.

"During the assault at least one agent discharged his firearm," he said. "The agent is currently on administrative leave. A thorough, multi-agency investigation is currently ongoing."

The shooting happened beneath a railroad bridge linking the two nations, and late Tuesday night a banner appeared on the bridge that said in English: "U.S. Border Patrol we worry about the violence in Mex and murders and now you. Viva Mexico!"

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The San Diego medical examiner's office ruled that death a homicide.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement.

On an unpaved street, gathered around Hernandez's gray metal casket, the teen's family called for justice.

"There is a God, so why would I want vengeance if no one will return him to me. They killed my little boy and the only thing I ask is for the law" to be applied, said the boy's father, Jesus Hernandez.

His mother was less hopeful. "May God forgive them because I know nothing will happen" to them, Maria Guadalupe Huereka said.

Above the casket was a photo of the youth wearing his soccer uniform and his junior high school grade cards, which showed A's and B's.

His mother said he was a good student who never got in trouble. He was the youngest of five children, played on two soccer teams and had just finished junior high school, she said.

The case took a testy turn when U.S. and Mexican officials traded suggestions of misconduct in the incident.

Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state Attorney General's office, said a spent .40-caliber shell casing was found near the body — raising the question of whether the fatal shot was fired inside Mexico, although he did not explicitly make that allegation. That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side of the border.

A U.S. official, meanwhile, said video shows the Border Patrol agent did not enter Mexico.

The official, who agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name, said the video also shows what seem to be four Mexican law enforcement officers driving to the edge of the dry but muddy bed of the Rio Grande, walking across to the U.S. side, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico near the area where the boy's body was. Like their U.S. counterparts, Mexican law officers are not authorized to cross the border without permission.

According to the FBI, Border Patrol agents were responding to a group of suspected illegal immigrants being smuggled into the U.S. near the Paso Del Norte bridge, across from Ciudad Juarez around 6:30 p.m. Monday.

One suspected illegal immigrant was detained on the levee on the U.S. side, the FBI said in a statement. Another Border Patrol agent arrived on the concrete bank where the now-dry, 33-foot (10-meter) wide Rio Grande is, and detained a second person. Other suspects ran back into Mexico and began throwing rocks, the FBI said.

At least one rock came from behind the agent, who was kneeling beside a suspected illegal immigrant whom he had prone on the ground, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons said.

The agent told the rock throwers to stop and back off, but they continued. The agent fired his weapon several times, hitting one who later died, said the FBI, which is leading the investigation because it involved an assault on a federal officer. The agent was not injured, Simmons said.

Chihuahua state officials released a statement demanding a full investigation into the death.

The boy was shot once near the eye, Sandoval said. Authorities were still investigating the bullet's trajectory, he said.

Sandoval said he couldn't comment on the video reported by the U.S. official because he didn't know anything about it. "I am unaware about those hypotheses," he said.

Sandoval said Mexican investigators were questioning three teenagers who were with the victim at the time of the shooting.

The boy's sister, Rosario, told Associated Press Television News that her brother was playing with several friends and did not plan to cross the border.

"They say that they started firing from over there and suddenly hit him in the head," she said.

The boy's mother said he had gone to eat with his brother, who handles luggage at a border customs office. While there, he met up with a group of friends and they decided to hang out by the river, she said.

"That was his mistake, to have gone to the river," she said in an interview with Mexico's Milenio TV. "That's why they killed him."

Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said its records indicate the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by U.S. immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over.

T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents is common and capable of causing serious injury.

"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.
 
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A couple of laws from author Larry Niven:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
1a) Never throw shit at an armed man.
1b) Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man.
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That applies to rocks, too.

For those who might like to see more of Niven's Laws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niven's_laws

By the way, item 16 has been Bowlderized. What Larry actually said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no cause so noble that it will not attract a few fuckheads.</div></div>

I apologize for the "F" word, but I include it in the quote in the interest of accuracy.

 
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Let me be clear and as succinct as possible here:
Fuck anyone coming across the border illegally who wants to do violence with weapons. It is illegal, and against international law. Once one of these shitheads picks up a rock, adn his friends join him they become an armed party crossing a frontier which is an act of war and demands ruthless countermeasures.
Kill them all. Sooner or later they will get the message and stop what they are doing because it is bad for their long term health.

If they put as much energy into trying to fix their own country they might have something worth working at.
No Love, No Pity, No Mercy. So don't bother trying to show any deer eyed illegal pregnant wench trying to get an anchor kid. I ain't buying that shit either.

Guess who's cleaning up Clarksville's flooded areas? 'Statewide'. A company that appears to have solely mexican speaking workers directly from Mexico when there are so many out of work that would be glad to do these jobs. WHy are they not? Because teh contract company already found out it has to PAY people to do this work or become the target of the news media. Many left because they were not getting paid for the hard work they were doing, so in come the rat labor wetbacks who don't cry too much when the company screws them


oops, sorry brah, ranted a bit. What was the topic again?
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Sit on hands...sit on hands...sit on hands.....keep mouth shut......keep mouth shut

Switch we are of the same mind on this
 
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Well maybe it's good for them to be angry.

Maybe by showing another illegal in the country getting whacked they'll stop coming over.

Or maybe the government will do something to protect our country, although unlikely.

Dems feel sorry for the world and want to help them and open borders.

Repubs want their cheap labor.

Nobody will do a damn thing about it.
 
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I love how people say,"they were only throwing rocks",well,rocks are deadly weapons.This is beginning to sound more and more like the Palestinian problem every day minus the rocket attacks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SANDRAT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love how people say,"they were only throwing rocks",well,rocks are deadly weapons.This is beginning to sound more and more like the Palestinian problem every day minus the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">rock</span></span>et attacks.</div></div>

Nice pun,,, had you intended that?

And for the rest,,, I'm not disagreeing here. I'm north of the northern border, and I too believe that your southern border needs fortification.

As to the wheat fields between us, there are no rivers here flowing east-to-west... so there's no route of influx in jeopardy.
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Noticed that after I posted.A friend down in Texas calls their uninsured cars with unlicensed drivers,"Mexican Heat Seeking Missiles" because they come from out of nowhere,destroy your vehicle,then dissapear.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me be clear and as succinct as possible here:
Fuck anyone coming across the border illegally who wants to do violence with weapons. It is illegal, and against international law. Once one of these shitheads picks up a rock, adn his friends join him they become an armed party crossing a frontier which is an act of war and demands ruthless countermeasures.
Kill them all. Sooner or later they will get the message and stop what they are doing because it is bad for their long term health.

If they put as much energy into trying to fix their own country they might have something worth working at.
No Love, No Pity, No Mercy. So don't bother trying to show any deer eyed illegal pregnant wench trying to get an anchor kid. I ain't buying that shit either.

Guess who's cleaning up Clarksville's flooded areas? 'Statewide'. A company that appears to have solely mexican speaking workers directly from Mexico when there are so many out of work that would be glad to do these jobs. WHy are they not? Because teh contract company already found out it has to PAY people to do this work or become the target of the news media. Many left because they were not getting paid for the hard work they were doing, so in come the rat labor wetbacks who don't cry too much when the company screws them


oops, sorry brah, ranted a bit. What was the topic again?
grin.gif
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What he said.
 
Re: Mexico anger high as US Border Patrol kills teen

What they said.
Invaders should be treated as such.
 
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The government should set up a few hundred to a few thousand Phalanx point defense systems along the border with the sensitivity turned way down and keep them full of ammo.The problem would quikly solve itself.
 
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ah..the Phalanx. I forgot about that thing. It was always fun to watch that thing shoot except the one time it did it right next to my head with no warning.
 
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No sympathy from me for the boy. I feel bad for the sh!tstorm the agent is gonna have to endure along with living with taking a life. If someone is seen coming across the border illegally, should be open season.
 
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I'll bet his family would say "He was a good boy" and "He never hurt anybody!". That's what the gang banger's mothers always say when one of their kids gets killed. If he was such a great kid, what was he doing in the US assaulting Border Patrol agents? If you don't like our laws and the people who's job it is to enforce them, stay the fuck in Mexico! I guarantee if I snuck into Mexico and started attacking their police/ military, I would not be comming back. I know this because that is the reputation Mexico has. Maybe we need to change our reputation (this incident is probably a good start)
We need to make it known that if you enter the US illegally (from anywhere, not just Mexico) and you decide to shit on our laws and attack our government agents/police/citizens, We keel you!!! End of story! Let's make it an official policy and inform the "neighbors" so they are not surprised the next time something like this happens.
I do feel a little bit bad that the kid was only 15, and will never grow up to realize what a dumb-ass choice he made, but he should have known better. I mean what the f*** did he think was going to happen?
Mostly I feel bad for the agent. First that he was attacked for doing his job, and second that he was put in a position where he had to use deadly force against the kid.
I truly hope that he is not "thrown under the bus" to try an appease the bitches that are going to wine about the use of deadly force.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Semour Gunz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll bet his family would say "He was a good boy" and "He never hurt anybody!". That's what the gang banger's mothers always say when one of their kids gets killed. If he was such a great kid, what was he doing in the US assaulting Border Patrol agents? If you don't like our laws and the people who's job it is to enforce them, stay the fuck in Mexico! I guarantee if I snuck into Mexico and started attacking their police/ military, I would not be comming back. I know this because that is the reputation Mexico has. Maybe we need to change our reputation (this incident is probably a good start)
We need to make it known that if you enter the US illegally (from anywhere, not just Mexico) and you decide to shit on our laws and attack our government agents/police/citizens, We keel you!!! End of story! Let's make it an official policy and inform the "neighbors" so they are not surprised the next time something like this happens.
I do feel a little bit bad that the kid was only 15, and will never grow up to realize what a dumb-ass choice he made, but he should have known better. I mean what the f*** did he think was going to happen?
Mostly I feel bad for the agent. First that he was attacked for doing his job, and second that he was put in a position where he had to use deadly force against the kid.
I truly hope that he is not "thrown under the bus" to try an appease the bitches that are going to wine about the use of deadly force. </div></div>

Astute.
 
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Fuck this.

It is time to declare war on Mexico and illegal aliens could be treated as spies.
 
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Lemma #1: "Avoiding doing illegal activities, greatly reduces the chances of being shot."
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: agent-smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fuck this.

It is time to declare war on Mexico and illegal aliens could be treated as spies.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body">shootem all</div></div>

lol
 
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agreed, we wouldnt have this problem if we ANNEXED mexico!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jayjayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">agreed, we wouldnt have this problem if we LEVELED mexico! </div></div>

Fixed it for ya!
 
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I'm just tired of hearing "They were only throwing rocks!".I roll around in my wheelchair out in the world everyday,and if a group of people start throwing rocks at me......oh hell no!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Semour Gunz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I do feel a little bit bad that the kid was only 15, and will never grow up to realize what a dumb-ass choice he made, but he should have known better.</div></div>

Rest soundly my friend. You'd be amazed at how quickly you grow up when bleeding out. Being presented with death starts a series of reactions that pump massive regret through your veins straight from the heart to your brain.

He learned quite a bit from this incident, I assure you. Moreover, he has since gone on to teach others with his real life experience. It's a fulfilling experience if you stretch it out over a few decades of teaching. I can't imagine the satisfaction he must have felt with that last gasp knowing he might touch so many lives, and with minimal effort and in just the split second required to hurl a stone at that. He is a prodigy of what some call teachable moments.
 
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The Mexican Government needs to enforce something on their side if not we need to stand tall and defend our hard fought soil...REMEMBER THE ALAMO.................NUF SAID
 
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Give them all fair warning: Leave now! You are no longer welcome, nor are you entitled to anything. No more "cash jobs", or free healtcare or education. That is reserved for people who belong here. If you refuse to leave, you will be removed by any means nessecary!
If they're smart enough to sneak into the US and figure out how to milk our system, They're smart enough to understand this.