MIL MI-24 HIND
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Each of those bros look like they are grunting out a big shit. If the guy in front has a fixed bayonet, that would make it alright I guess.
Family trip headed to Mobile Alabama. Stopped in to this at Southern Museum of Flight. If you dont know the history of this helicopter take the time to look it up. Cool story about it.
See https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...afe-no-nudity.6926439/page-2262#post-12241627
The three - barrelled cannon was a prop…
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My favorite helo design.
If there is one thing I can appreciate from the slav's its military equipment design aesthetic.
If there is one thing I can appreciate from the slav's its military equipment design aesthetic.
Seems like I vaguely remember reading in a training manual, that due to armoring the targeting by ground troops with a LAW was through the door into the troop compartment. The notation was that the hydraulics were exposed or at least vulnerable, in that area, and were highly flammable.
I always figured that if the ship was crippled, and able to make even a hard landing, due to any other shot, a swarm of pissed off Ruskies would be pilling out, looking for Joe Tentpeg.
Even cooler Hind story
www.airandspaceforces.com
Desert Storm, #487 became the first Strike Eagle to record an air-to-air combat kill after Capts. Tim Bennett and Dan Bakke dropped a laser-guided bomb on an Iraqi Mi-24 helicopter. The crew thought the helicopter was on the ground when they released the weapon, but it had actually reached about 800 to 1,000 feet by the time it impacted, Bakke and Bennett said in the book “Strike Eagle: Flying the F-15E in the Gulf War.”
“If you’ve ever seen a James Bond movie where the helicopter—the model they film—just vaporizes and disappears, that is exactly what happened,” Bakke recalled.
F-15E That Downed a Helo in 1991 Just Hit 15,000 Flight Hours
The F-15E Strike Eagle that downed an Iraqi helicopter with a laser-guided bomb in 1991 just surpassed 15,000 flight hours.
www.airandspaceforces.com
Desert Storm, #487 became the first Strike Eagle to record an air-to-air combat kill after Capts. Tim Bennett and Dan Bakke dropped a laser-guided bomb on an Iraqi Mi-24 helicopter. The crew thought the helicopter was on the ground when they released the weapon, but it had actually reached about 800 to 1,000 feet by the time it impacted, Bakke and Bennett said in the book “Strike Eagle: Flying the F-15E in the Gulf War.”
“If you’ve ever seen a James Bond movie where the helicopter—the model they film—just vaporizes and disappears, that is exactly what happened,” Bakke recalled.
My older British books indicated that this cannon was mounted “at a depressed angle” for ground targets. Not entirely sure if that’s accurate…
How on earth does this cannon operate, to cause this huuuge rearward blast from what appears to be the action itself?
Also, notice how the nose tips downwards during firing…
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Some kind of muzzle brake system I'd imagine. If I recall those are full strength 30mm rounds (not like the straight-walled ADEN-DEFA rounds the Apache shoots). That is a LOT of recoil. As an example, the 20mm M197 on the Cobra will slow down and quickly stop a 10,000 lb aircraft doing 40 knots if the burst is a long one.
Also, found the picture I took in the early 90's:
yep
The 2 30mm on the far right. 113 is the apache that 165 is the hind, though still not as big as the 173 the A-10 spits.
You sure that lower video is not CGI? It looks CGI.
And is that the cannon? Or some kind of rocket pod with a backblast and a salvo fire?
If it is rockets, the dipping could be from a momentary loss of lift caused by the hot rocket exhaust. Not sure if that is possible, but for some reason I remember reading that somewhere….
Interesting video!
Sirhr
Its a twin barrel Gsh-30-2
Same basic cannon they put on their fighter jets, just 2 barrels instead of one.
Fires around 3,000 rounds per minute.
Way to big to be on that Helo, can't even image what hell the pilots endure firing the damn thing.
It’s an animated GIF downscaled from the video above, so yes, it is in fact CGI…
…but in principle, isn’t everything nowadays?
The cannon USED TO BE the GSh-23L, which fired 23mm rounds.
There may be a 30mm variant, but I’m not up - to - date on this, and what I remember from my 30 year old books may be obsolete - so I’m going by what Yasherka and GreenGO said up there.
EDIT: I used to be such a fanboi over military helicopters, and just had a flashback over another wierd model number… The pointy rocket pods were UV-32-57s, which had 32 57mm unguided rockets each.
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Its not the 23, its the 30.
the 23 was mounted up under the nose on an amiable pod.
They also had a fixed version that mounted under hard points
Active Aircraft nerd.
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Looking into it further…
Mil Mi-24 and Mi-35 Hind family reviewed
Known as the world’s most numerous attack helicopter, the Mi-24/35 Hind is still in production in Russia, with a series of upgrades and continuing interest from operators. Alexander Mladenov reports
…looks like it used the GSh-30K from the onset, with the 23L later offered in the export / modernized models.
That's kind of what I thought...
So from an analysis perspective... it's a video game.
And even in the game, those look like rocket pods.
I have some old references, but I know I don't have Janes Aircraft from that period. That would be a definitive source. Especially a copy printed after the Hind was given out to SovBloc Allies who would have made access to Jane's 'reporters' easier. That said, most countries were pretty honest sharing technical data with Janes. National engineering prestige for one thing. And Jane's was the Sears Roebuck Catalog for third world meat-cleaver glitterati with big diamond mines, oil reserves, warm port access and a penchant for aligning with whoever sold the best weapons. The Hind was a prestige aircraft for any craphole dictator to own and Janes was where you made your shopping list! ("Mercedes 600 Pullman? Check. Rolex President? Check. Hind Helicopter? Check. Now, let's invade our shithole neighbor because our shithole is not shithole enough and we need their shithole, too!" -- It was the early '80's in a nutshell!)
Plus Janes was meticulous in their preparation of entries. Which is why they were the go-to reference for every world military and intel agency.
If anyone has a copy of Janes Aircraft c. 1982-4... the Hind entry would probably be dead on.
Sirhr
I wonder what velocities they get with those barrel lengths.
Maybe it was a cheap method of extending basic steel - tipped API’s effectiveness
I kick myself for not getting more pictures of this thing 20 some odd years ago. We weren’t there very long, so just got a quick glimpse. It’s probably been destroyed by now in that shithole side of the country
Not looking it up I think its around 2800-3000, Fps. I know in the MiGs and Su fighters the single barrel version air to air they drop pretty hard compared to the Vulcan’s small but significantly faster projectile, those 30’s have a lot more HE in them.
I do know the barrels have a very short life.
All these pictures reminded me of the external gun pods on the one I played with, a central 4-barreled 12.7mm flanked by two 4-barrel 7.62 guns
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