Re: My review of the JP 6.5 Grendel
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lwrkeysfisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Your mistake was to think that I care about a caliber discussion. Quite the contrary, I was pointing out that the data you based the premise of your arguments (the 6.5G is superior long range cartridge to the .308 and that the 6.8 suffers from "poor long range performance") is at best flawed. I have not found one load in which the 6.5G drives a 123gr Scenar to 2750fps---it just doesn't exist and saying it does is misleading. I know I would be disappointed if I bought a 6.5G because I though it could replicate 6.5X47 velocities, just to find out it falls well (~200fps) short. Second you said the 6.8 is a poor performer at "long range", despite the fact you never adopted the cartridge, and the fact that many people have driven it to 800+ yards with good success using 16-18" barrels (even though it's not what it was designed for). So what I see is that you've keyed in on data that is wrong and used it to prove a point; then when I pointed out your data was wrong and analysis flawed your rebuttal was to get upset and claim that I was starting a "caliber war"... The fact is I like the 6.5G for what it is and think it is a cool little AR15 cartridge, I just don't like it when people tout garbage data as fact. I'll let you have the final word as I'm done with this thread. </div></div>
I never said the 6.5 was a superior cartridge to the .308, and a quick forum search of your name and "6.8" tells me all I need to know.
I will no longer respond to your jihad.. er um, I mean posts.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lwrkeysfisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Your mistake was to think that I care about a caliber discussion. Quite the contrary, I was pointing out that the data you based the premise of your arguments (the 6.5G is superior long range cartridge to the .308 and that the 6.8 suffers from "poor long range performance") is at best flawed. I have not found one load in which the 6.5G drives a 123gr Scenar to 2750fps---it just doesn't exist and saying it does is misleading. I know I would be disappointed if I bought a 6.5G because I though it could replicate 6.5X47 velocities, just to find out it falls well (~200fps) short. Second you said the 6.8 is a poor performer at "long range", despite the fact you never adopted the cartridge, and the fact that many people have driven it to 800+ yards with good success using 16-18" barrels (even though it's not what it was designed for). So what I see is that you've keyed in on data that is wrong and used it to prove a point; then when I pointed out your data was wrong and analysis flawed your rebuttal was to get upset and claim that I was starting a "caliber war"... The fact is I like the 6.5G for what it is and think it is a cool little AR15 cartridge, I just don't like it when people tout garbage data as fact. I'll let you have the final word as I'm done with this thread. </div></div>
I never said the 6.5 was a superior cartridge to the .308, and a quick forum search of your name and "6.8" tells me all I need to know.
I will no longer respond to your jihad.. er um, I mean posts.
