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Seems pretty cool... Now I need a 308 so I can buy this.
Seems pretty cool... Now I need a 308 so I can buy this.
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Re: New B&C Stock
This is not a new stock.
It is the BCS1000, so called because it was made for the Bushmaster Counter Sniper rifle.
The Bushmaster was taken over by Remngton Custom Shop, stock changed, price increased dramatically etc... to become the XM3.
I believe the Bushmaster was built by Iron Brigade Armory.
This is not a new stock.
It is the BCS1000, so called because it was made for the Bushmaster Counter Sniper rifle.
The Bushmaster was taken over by Remngton Custom Shop, stock changed, price increased dramatically etc... to become the XM3.
I believe the Bushmaster was built by Iron Brigade Armory.
Re: New B&C Stock
I'd like to know how it compares with the Light Tactical, other than the hook. Just based on the pics, the "raised" Monte Carlo part actually looks lower than the cheek rest on the LT.
I'd like to know how it compares with the Light Tactical, other than the hook. Just based on the pics, the "raised" Monte Carlo part actually looks lower than the cheek rest on the LT.
Re: New B&C Stock
Wow. Learn something new everyday.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock.
It is the BCS1000, so called because it was made for the Bushmaster Counter Sniper rifle.
The Bushmaster was taken over by Remngton Custom Shop, stock changed, price increased dramatically etc... to become the XM3.
I believe the Bushmaster was built by Iron Brigade Armory. </div></div>
Wow. Learn something new everyday.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock.
It is the BCS1000, so called because it was made for the Bushmaster Counter Sniper rifle.
The Bushmaster was taken over by Remngton Custom Shop, stock changed, price increased dramatically etc... to become the XM3.
I believe the Bushmaster was built by Iron Brigade Armory. </div></div>
Re: New B&C Stock
weight....whats the weight??
....bet this floats too......
weight....whats the weight??
....bet this floats too......
Re: New B&C Stock
Interesting. That looks strikingly similar to my McMillan A1-3, including the bolt removal slot.
Interesting. That looks strikingly similar to my McMillan A1-3, including the bolt removal slot.
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2.7 lbs
Play nice!</div></div>
verily so......
so....looks like anyone up a creek now REALLY DO GOT A PADDLE
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2.7 lbs
Play nice!</div></div>
verily so......
so....looks like anyone up a creek now REALLY DO GOT A PADDLE
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock. It is the BCS1000. </div></div>
+1
I've used these stocks for over two years now...
Better feel than the HS but they are NO Manners/Mcmillan...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock. It is the BCS1000. </div></div>
+1
I've used these stocks for over two years now...
Better feel than the HS but they are NO Manners/Mcmillan...
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.
Is the B&C stock thinner in the grip area then the PSS stock? </div></div>
Yes it is and the Palm Swell is Smaller than the HS used on the new Senderos as well...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.
Is the B&C stock thinner in the grip area then the PSS stock? </div></div>
Yes it is and the Palm Swell is Smaller than the HS used on the new Senderos as well...
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock. It is the BCS1000. </div></div>
+1
I've used these stocks for over two years now...
Better feel than the HS but they are NO Manners/Mcmillan...
</div></div>
If a person would drive a tractor over the field you shot all those out of one would lose their fillings in their teeth and in this case perhaps a few teeth.... Holly rodent problem..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock. It is the BCS1000. </div></div>
+1
I've used these stocks for over two years now...
Better feel than the HS but they are NO Manners/Mcmillan...
</div></div>
If a person would drive a tractor over the field you shot all those out of one would lose their fillings in their teeth and in this case perhaps a few teeth.... Holly rodent problem..
Re: New B&C Stock
I have had 1 of these for a year or so.
It most closely resembles a McM A1-3. Actually almost identical sans the finger groove in the McM forend
BCS 1000
McM A1-3
I have had 1 of these for a year or so.
It most closely resembles a McM A1-3. Actually almost identical sans the finger groove in the McM forend
BCS 1000
McM A1-3
Re: New B&C Stock
Can you tell us where you did the killing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock. It is the BCS1000. </div></div>
+1
I've used these stocks for over two years now...
Better feel than the HS but they are NO Manners/Mcmillan...
</div></div>
Can you tell us where you did the killing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not a new stock. It is the BCS1000. </div></div>
+1
I've used these stocks for over two years now...
Better feel than the HS but they are NO Manners/Mcmillan...
</div></div>
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like that top rifle !
Does anyone know what materials this stock is made of?</div></div>
finally....an inquiring mind comes forth with the right question....
i shall give you a hint, and put in nautical terms ...it will float,.....oh and would you mind asking any gunsmith worth their salt how to attach sling cups and any other studs to FOAM CORE ?
there...see i played nice
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like that top rifle !
Does anyone know what materials this stock is made of?</div></div>
finally....an inquiring mind comes forth with the right question....
i shall give you a hint, and put in nautical terms ...it will float,.....oh and would you mind asking any gunsmith worth their salt how to attach sling cups and any other studs to FOAM CORE ?
there...see i played nice
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">finally....an inquiring mind comes forth with the right question....
i shall give you a hint, and put in nautical terms ...it will float,.....oh and would you mind asking any gunsmith worth their salt how to attach sling cups and any other studs to FOAM CORE ?
there...see i played nice </div></div>
Here is a B&C Light Tactical stock that has four flush cup L&R sides F&R and two rails installed Bottom F&R as well as a UNS mount and I've never pulled one out or had a problem with them...
Again it is NO substitute for a Manners/McMillan but IMHO better than an HS and a decent stock for the $$...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">finally....an inquiring mind comes forth with the right question....
i shall give you a hint, and put in nautical terms ...it will float,.....oh and would you mind asking any gunsmith worth their salt how to attach sling cups and any other studs to FOAM CORE ?
there...see i played nice </div></div>
Here is a B&C Light Tactical stock that has four flush cup L&R sides F&R and two rails installed Bottom F&R as well as a UNS mount and I've never pulled one out or had a problem with them...
Again it is NO substitute for a Manners/McMillan but IMHO better than an HS and a decent stock for the $$...
Re: New B&C Stock
Ahh, I see.. I thought I had seen this a while ago... pulled up the iron brigade website and saw it there, as that is where I saw it a bit ago...
For a kid like me that can't afford a Manners or McMillan, seems like a good option.
Ahh, I see.. I thought I had seen this a while ago... pulled up the iron brigade website and saw it there, as that is where I saw it a bit ago...
For a kid like me that can't afford a Manners or McMillan, seems like a good option.
Re: New B&C Stock
BOLTRIPPER i shall give you a hint said:Scott,
I have seen foam in a McM as well...in the ass end...at Gene's shop.
I am relieved to know that if I ever drop my whisper in a body of water, retrieval will be easy so long as the wind aint blowin'
Re: New B&C Stock
Boltripper,
Don't hold back on my account, let it rip.
This stock is also available in a long action version. (Just finished tooling before SHOT) The comb height on these are .250" higher than the 2956 Light Tactical (Thumb Hook version).
Boltripper,
Don't hold back on my account, let it rip.
This stock is also available in a long action version. (Just finished tooling before SHOT) The comb height on these are .250" higher than the 2956 Light Tactical (Thumb Hook version).
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rich56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make this a better stock than the HS that comes on the Remingtons? I'd be interested in this stock for my 700 Milspec, cannot afford the McM and Manners </div></div>
The fact there isn't a monstrous palm swell.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rich56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make this a better stock than the HS that comes on the Remingtons? I'd be interested in this stock for my 700 Milspec, cannot afford the McM and Manners </div></div>
The fact there isn't a monstrous palm swell.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rich56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make this a better stock than the HS that comes on the Remingtons? I'd be interested in this stock for my 700 Milspec, cannot afford the McM and Manners </div></div>
The fact there isn't a monstrous palm swell. </div></div>
agreed. The palm swells on HS stocks are ridiculous. I feel like im trying to hold a grapefruit.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rich56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make this a better stock than the HS that comes on the Remingtons? I'd be interested in this stock for my 700 Milspec, cannot afford the McM and Manners </div></div>
The fact there isn't a monstrous palm swell. </div></div>
agreed. The palm swells on HS stocks are ridiculous. I feel like im trying to hold a grapefruit.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
That is a nice stock. I have a question since we are discussing BC stocks, and please don't beat me up guys, but the B&C are priced competetively with the new Choate Tactical stock. I am not referring to the horrid looking ultimate sniper stock. Can anybody provide me some pro's and con's between the Medalist stocks and the Choate Tactical???? I am trying to make a decision on what stock to acquire for my new Remy!. Thanks.
That is a nice stock. I have a question since we are discussing BC stocks, and please don't beat me up guys, but the B&C are priced competetively with the new Choate Tactical stock. I am not referring to the horrid looking ultimate sniper stock. Can anybody provide me some pro's and con's between the Medalist stocks and the Choate Tactical???? I am trying to make a decision on what stock to acquire for my new Remy!. Thanks.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
And here I thought I was the only one that hated the massive palm swell on the HS....its just rediculous in my book and the only thing I didnt like about my old PSS 300 Winny.....
And here I thought I was the only one that hated the massive palm swell on the HS....its just rediculous in my book and the only thing I didnt like about my old PSS 300 Winny.....
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
Mine came in today. Got a few pictures of it sitting next to an HS Precision and another Bell&Carlson A1
The BC 1000 is noticably heavier than the HS and the Al.
Forgot to weigh them before mounting them all back in, though.
Just from playing with it for a few minutes, I like it a lot.
Didn't get a chance to look real close, but it might need a longer front action screw.
Mine came in today. Got a few pictures of it sitting next to an HS Precision and another Bell&Carlson A1
The BC 1000 is noticably heavier than the HS and the Al.
Forgot to weigh them before mounting them all back in, though.
Just from playing with it for a few minutes, I like it a lot.
Didn't get a chance to look real close, but it might need a longer front action screw.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
I have been running a Light Tactical for awhile now. It's a great stock.
The BCS1000 looks to be even better since it has a higher Comb than the Light Tactical.
As to what's inside......
And a closeup of the actual chassis used in the BCS1000
So as you can see, adding a flush cup is not an issue since you are securing it to aluminum.
Since the actual center of the stock is aluminum instead of foam...wouldn't that make it an aluminum core?
I do love the fact I can take my 700 out of the Light Tactical and bolt it back in without any change in POI.
Look for us to do a more detailed writeup on Bell & Carlson soon. You may also see the BCS1000 stock featured in our upcoming "Budget Precision" build.
I do feel that these stocks are a step up from H&S.
I have been running a Light Tactical for awhile now. It's a great stock.
The BCS1000 looks to be even better since it has a higher Comb than the Light Tactical.
As to what's inside......
And a closeup of the actual chassis used in the BCS1000
So as you can see, adding a flush cup is not an issue since you are securing it to aluminum.
Since the actual center of the stock is aluminum instead of foam...wouldn't that make it an aluminum core?
I do love the fact I can take my 700 out of the Light Tactical and bolt it back in without any change in POI.
Look for us to do a more detailed writeup on Bell & Carlson soon. You may also see the BCS1000 stock featured in our upcoming "Budget Precision" build.
I do feel that these stocks are a step up from H&S.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
I would.
I would.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
IMHO the B&C Stocks are quite a bit higher quality than the H&S from a LTR.
I just did armorer's inspections on three LTR's this morning. The fit and finish of the two B&C stocks I have are a bit better than the H&S stocks. I have seen the studs pull out of H&S stocks and checking them for cracks is a regular part of the checklist for a 700P.
IMHO the B&C Stocks are quite a bit higher quality than the H&S from a LTR.
I just did armorer's inspections on three LTR's this morning. The fit and finish of the two B&C stocks I have are a bit better than the H&S stocks. I have seen the studs pull out of H&S stocks and checking them for cracks is a regular part of the checklist for a 700P.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
I dunno. I have always ordered direct from B&C.
I dunno. I have always ordered direct from B&C.
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
I spoke to B&C directly hoping to get a better price for an agency purchase and was told that I would get a better price from Stockys.
RB
I spoke to B&C directly hoping to get a better price for an agency purchase and was told that I would get a better price from Stockys.
RB
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
Slightly better price and a standard shipping charge of $13.
Shooters Discount
Slightly better price and a standard shipping charge of $13.
Shooters Discount
Re: New B&C Stock compared to a HS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chipdog4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slightly better price and a standard shipping charge of $13.
Shooters Discount </div></div>
That's where I got mine back in December. They were the only game in town prior to Stockys getting them.
They're fast shippers,and had a good price ($206+ ship,IIRC).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chipdog4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slightly better price and a standard shipping charge of $13.
Shooters Discount </div></div>
That's where I got mine back in December. They were the only game in town prior to Stockys getting them.
They're fast shippers,and had a good price ($206+ ship,IIRC).
Re: New B&C Stock
That top rifle is the shit! Please post specs...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RHutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have had 1 of these for a year or so.
It most closely resembles a McM A1-3. Actually almost identical sans the finger groove in the McM forend
BCS 1000
McM A1-3
</div></div>
That top rifle is the shit! Please post specs...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RHutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have had 1 of these for a year or so.
It most closely resembles a McM A1-3. Actually almost identical sans the finger groove in the McM forend
BCS 1000
McM A1-3
Re: New B&C Stock
any body know where you can get a b&c 1000 stock.
any body know where you can get a b&c 1000 stock.
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curnow26</div><div class="ubbcode-body">any body know here you can get a b&c 1000 stock. </div></div>
I ordered mine from shootersdiscount. I ordered friday,it shipped yesterday and should be here Thursday.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curnow26</div><div class="ubbcode-body">any body know here you can get a b&c 1000 stock. </div></div>
I ordered mine from shootersdiscount. I ordered friday,it shipped yesterday and should be here Thursday.
Re: New B&C Stock
Mine came in a few days ago from Shooters Discount , bolted it in yesterday and it feels good. The action screws don't have as much to catch on to. I think I will hunt some longer ones soon. I don't have much experience with composite stocks but this syock is night and day compared to what the rifle came with ( Rem. sps ).Fit is good and barrel channel has more than enough room for SPS barrel. I will probably skim coat the action area after I shoot it awhile.
Mine came in a few days ago from Shooters Discount , bolted it in yesterday and it feels good. The action screws don't have as much to catch on to. I think I will hunt some longer ones soon. I don't have much experience with composite stocks but this syock is night and day compared to what the rifle came with ( Rem. sps ).Fit is good and barrel channel has more than enough room for SPS barrel. I will probably skim coat the action area after I shoot it awhile.
Re: New B&C Stock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That top rifle is the shit! Please post specs...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RHutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have had 1 of these for a year or so.
It most closely resembles a McM A1-3. Actually almost identical sans the finger groove in the McM forend
BCS 1000
McM A1-3
</div></div> </div></div>
It is a 300whisper with Shilen 1:8 at 16.5"
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DrDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That top rifle is the shit! Please post specs...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RHutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have had 1 of these for a year or so.
It most closely resembles a McM A1-3. Actually almost identical sans the finger groove in the McM forend
BCS 1000
McM A1-3
It is a 300whisper with Shilen 1:8 at 16.5"
