Looking at building a SBR or something around 16-18". I have a 22" 6mm Arc and a 20" 223. I have a 77gr smk load that works well but was curious if i built a arc shooting 75gr would be better than building another 223. I solely reload and have brass, powder etc, omponents arent an issue. What would you do ?
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New build choices SBR or 16-18"
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Build them all. More is better.
Maybe not a helpful answer, but it's what I keep doing.
Maybe not a helpful answer, but it's what I keep doing.
If you might hunt with it, try a short ARC - I imagine the extra charge and lower BC would cancel each other out pretty quickly in a 75gr 6mm vs a 77gr 223 though, but you could always go with heavier pills. Or buy some more dies and components and do a HAM'R or BO or 375 SOCOM etc.
Brownell's has Knights Armament 11.5" uppers in stock as of this moment. I would go that route as these are hard to come by.
11.5" can hit out past 500 yards. Not as much velocity as a 18", but it will hit steal just fine.
^ I am just trying to justify my purchase of a Knights Armament in 11.5" to myself. You do you and get what you want.
18" is going to be really similar in terms of performance and handling to your 20", so I would hold off on that length for now. I'd opt for a 14-16" general purpose gun to start, and build a 10-12" SBR later.
You need to stop that crazy talk right now, you could get a lot of people in trouble with KAC news like that, damn. Off to Brownells.
Oh build a lightweight 16' inch gun with LPVO and shoot those 77's out to BFE.
PB
14.5" pin and weld a muzzle device that allows you to attach can and makes it 16"
It’s a cheap rifle. Aero upper group with a ballistic barrel. The lower is a cheap PSA. The most expensive thing, besides the suppressor, is the Knights Armament handgaurd. Shoots really well for what it is.
I vote for 16-18”. My 10.5” sbr runs 55’s at 2400 vs my 18” at 2800+ fps. Which will really show at 5-600 yards. 556 of course
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Avoid the cost & hassle of an SBR...........the utility of a shorter barrel on anything but a BO is just not really worth over the it over a 14.5" P&W'd.
Great all around size.
MM
Avoid the cost & hassle of an SBR...........the utility of a shorter barrel on anything but a BO is just not really worth over the it over a 14.5" P&W'd.
Great all around size.
MM
No justification needed brother. The shit is top tier.
Man, that looks longer than 16 inches to me, learn something new everyday. Nice looking build.
PB
Now heres a big one, how about scopes for a 16" ? I currently have a mess of 5-25x50, 5-25x56 in FFP. A few 4-16x44 SFP 1" tubes. Thinking maybe 2-12 power scopes in FFP and exposed turrets. Any first hand experience with something close to that power range? I love my 10x SWFA scopes and might just stay with that for awhile. Most i have spent on scopes was around 1k.
That's a broad question. Given the long range capability of 6ARC I'll assume you don't need 1x to blast up close. I've got an Athlon 2-12x FFP on a 12.8" 6.5 Grendel that I'm very impressed with for $500. It's very comfortable from 50-600 yards. Given the extra barrel length/velocity of your ARC I might look hard at the Arken 4-16x for a little more range capability, with an offset dot for the chance of a close range critter popping up during your night hunting.
You didn't really define your budget though, I'm just mentioning scopes in the price range I can justify to myself for my lower volume guns, I don't feel the need for anything alpha tier on a gun shooting less than 1k rounds a year.
I actually found a used athlon ares 2-15x50 and a athlon helos btr gen 2 2-12x42 (100 less) on this forum. Has me thinking hard. I had a arken and turned around and sold it. Im pretty set on my Riton optics but they dont offer what i need and have used Athlon before. I would like to stay under $800 for sure.
Just be aware that the reticle in the BTR 2-12x is not shoot the wings off a fly fine. I actually like the thickness for what I'm using it for, more so faster shooting on bigger targets with the fat center dot, and I holdover using the reasonably fine tree rather than dialing. If group shooting or dialing is more your thing the finer reticle in the Ares is what you want.
I own the Ares BTR 2.5-15x and it's probably my favorite optic for the money, outclassing my long time favorite SWFA SS 3-15x easily. I made sure to look through the Helos BTR 2-12x at SHOT show because it looks like a great SPR optic for the money on paper. I'm glad I waited until I saw it in person, because I really didn't like the reticle as much as the Ares. As Tony stated above, the 2-12x optic is good for fast paced shooting, but if you plan to use it for more precision-focused activities, the Ares is probably the way to go.
Since you have all the components for reloading, have you considered a 22 Grendel? Precision firearms have chambered barrels. Allows you to push the .224 faster from the ar
I actually had a 22 grendel barrel but never got around to using it and sold it. Thought about going back but built bolt actions in 6xc and 22xc (close to 22 creedmoor
If you're looking for the PRI rail to save weight, it's not exactly the lightest option, despite being carbon fiber. I absolutely love my PRI Delta forearm on my Mock12 build with Ares BTR below (ignore the CA legal grip), but there are cheaper or lighter rail options available if weight savings is your primary goal. With that being said, it's a classic, it feels great in hand, and it looks f'ing awesome. Sometimes you just need to go with your gut and get what you really want from the start.
If you're building a 16" rifle with the PRI rail, I would pair it with this CLE Douglas SS barrel for your own Mk12 Mod H style build. This is a bit heavier than the Faxon barrel but should be a much more consistent (precise) shooter, and has the benefit of being more "clone-correct" if that's important to you.
Ready to Ship: Douglas-SS Tactical 16" Over-run SALE - Compass Lake Engineering, LLC
Douglas-SS: Modified Tactical Barrel .850 UHG .750 Gas Block .720 Muzzle Length: 16" Twist: 1-7 Chamber: Wylde Gas System: MID Thread: 1/2-28 Finish: Polish
compasslake.com
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Im going with a 6mm arc barrel. What length handguard would be correct for a mk12 clone mod h 14" or 15"?If you're looking for the PRI rail to save weight, it's not exactly the lightest option, despite being carbon fiber. I absolutely love my PRI Delta forearm on my Mock12 build with Ares BTR below (ignore the CA legal grip), but there are cheaper or lighter rail options available if weight savings is your primary goal. With that being said, it's a classic, it feels great in hand, and it looks f'ing awesome. Sometimes you just need to go with your gut and get what you really want from the start.
If you're building a 16" rifle with the PRI rail, I would pair it with this CLE Douglas SS barrel for your own Mk12 Mod H style build. This is a bit heavier than the Faxon barrel but should be a much more consistent (precise) shooter, and has the benefit of being more "clone-correct" if that's important to you.
Ready to Ship: Douglas-SS Tactical 16" Over-run SALE - Compass Lake Engineering, LLC
Douglas-SS: Modified Tactical Barrel .850 UHG .750 Gas Block .720 Muzzle Length: 16" Twist: 1-7 Chamber: Wylde Gas System: MID Thread: 1/2-28 Finish: Polish
I have now aquired a
12" PRI handguard
6.8mm AEM brake 5/8x24 with collar.(for the possibility of a aem5 clone for 6mm)
Should have most of these parts later this week and will have to post pictures with my a2 lower for now.
12" PRI handguard
6.8mm AEM brake 5/8x24 with collar.(for the possibility of a aem5 clone for 6mm)
Should have most of these parts later this week and will have to post pictures with my a2 lower for now.
Little info i found out today was my brownells barrel i ordered wont have the proper size barrel contour past the gas block to get custom countoured for the AEM collar. I ordered a custom 16" barrel from Mcgowen and will be returning the ordered barrel from brownells. Live and learn
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and decided to try the new Vortex strike eagle 3-18x44 34mm tube. The fastest shipping i have ever seen. Ordered yesterday at 8 am received today at 11 am
