New Mack Bros Element Action... Impressive!

[jzerfoss]

So apparently Mack Bros snuck the Element action on their site before Shot Show. Looking at the specs and price I decided to grab one for a lightweight 308 shorty build. I also grabbed their lightweight integrated ring mounts.

I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this action. As far as I can tell it's the lightest stainless action and way cheaper than the other options in it's class.

 

[Maurygold]

never ever ever again will I buy an action/ gun with a propietary top rail. We stopped doing that for the better and I'm not going back for 1.1245oz

 

[jzerfoss]

never ever ever again will I buy an action/ gun with a propietary top rail. We stopped doing that for the better and I'm not going back for 1.1245oz

Comes with a pic rail. The mount is an extra option

 

[Maurygold]

Comes with a pic rail. The mount is an extra option

should probably advertise it with the configuration 99.9% of people will want it in. looks kind of misleading to advertise weight either with no rail, or a rail no one should be using.

 

[jzerfoss]

should probably advertise it with the configuration 99.9% of people will want it in. looks kind of misleading to advertise weight either with no rail, or a rail no one should be using.

They do and it's in the description. The weight is of the action it's self. Defiance ANTI is advertised the same way.

 

[jbell]

Curious if this action is compatible with AICS or possibly AW magazines. I can't imagine it's only designed to be BDL compatible, where you can take a factory 700 and use an AICS system.

Either way I'm digging the weight!

 

[Maurygold]

It Doesn't say the weight is with the mount; I would assume not since you have to buy it separately so it's more money than the current options. (CDG, Origin)

 

[jzerfoss]

Curious if this action is compatible with AICS or possibly AW magazines. I can't imagine it's only designed to be BDL compatible, where you can take a factory 700 and use an AICS system.

Either way I'm digging the weight!

It works with AICS according to Mack Bros.

 

[jzerfoss]

It Doesn't say the weight is with the mount; I would assume not since you have to buy it separately so it's more money than the current options. (CDG, Origin)

Again it comes with the pic rail... CDG and Origin isn't in it's class. Neither of those are lightweight actions

 

[GenericBadGuy]

It Doesn't say the weight is with the mount; I would assume not since you have to buy it separately so it's more money than the current options. (CDG, Origin)

The CDG weighs 33 oz and the Origin weighs 31 oz with pic rails.

 

[wind gypsy]

so, how does it run? Slick? Not slick?

 

[Long Range 338]

These are typical Mack Bros, top notch machining and finish. Great actions for the price.

 

[D_Lamz]

wonder if the scope mounting is based on the Rem 700 pattern?

 

[jzerfoss]

so, how does it run? Slick? Not slick?

I haven't had a barrel put on it yet but handling just the action it's very nice. Bolt lift isn't the lightest but not bad either.

 

[calib]

Just ordered one of these today and was shipped today. Will be interesting to play with and compare to my anti.
@jzerfoss what stock is that in the main post?

 

[Bryan W M]

Is it cut for the Wyatt’s extended box magazine?

 

[jzerfoss]

Is it cut for the Wyatt’s extended box magazine?

I was told AICS by Mack Bros

 

[jzerfoss]

Just ordered one of these today and was shipped today. Will be interesting to play with and compare to my anti.
@jzerfoss what stock is that in the main post?

Manners EH4 with Gen 2 chassis

 

[Kickin45]

Wanting to build a new long range small caliber.
Mack or the Coup de Grace.
Want a side by side comparison.

 

[jzerfoss]

Wanting to build a new long range small caliber.
Mack or the Coup de Grace.
Want a side by side comparison.

2 very different actions that aren't really comparable. I think the element is specifically made for those who want the lightest action possible within it's feature set/specs. The "lightweight" CDG is just a lighter CDG, not really a lightweight action.

 

[WhiteDingo]

wonder if the scope mounting is based on the Rem 700 pattern?

The standard Mack Evo takes Stiller two piece bases, the Ti takes Nosler pattern.

The Element mimics the Evo, I think. I'll confirm in the morning when I can get all three of mine side by side

 

[Supersubes]

Wanting to build a new long range small caliber.
Mack or the Coup de Grace.
Want a side by side comparison.

No reason to shop those two together imo. The element is in another category of light weight.

 

[Supersubes]

Is it cut for the Wyatt’s extended box magazine?

The standard evo 2 does, there’s about a zero percent chance the element has a shorter magazine cutout. Theyre calling a “short action BDL” in the description.

 

[WhiteDingo]

The standard evo 2 does, there’s about a zero percent chance the element has a shorter magazine cutout. Theyre calling a “short action BDL” in the description.

Stuck a set of calipers in the Element today, 3.210" magazine cutout on the receiver.



Here's a quick snapshot comparing the top of the Element to a closed top Evo as well.

 

[Supersubes]

Stuck a set of calipers in the Element today, 3.210" magazine cutout on the receiver.

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Here's a quick snapshot comparing the top of the Element to a closed top Evo as well.

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Looks like they added a cutout in the feed ramp too. That was nice of them.

 

[evilsvt]

Just got mine together.

Bartlein 20” 7SAW
Manners MCS-TA
TT Diamond
AB Raptor 6

 

[jzerfoss]

Just got mine together.

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Bartlein 20” 7SAW
Manners MCS-TA
TT Diamond
AB Raptor 6

Nice! Jealous of that TA

 

[calib]

The standard Mack Evo takes Stiller two piece bases, the Ti takes Nosler pattern.

The Element mimics the Evo, I think. I'll confirm in the morning when I can get all three of mine side by side

From what I was told by mack bro's the evo2 and the element are same bases which from what I have been seeing

Stuck a set of calipers in the Element today, 3.210" magazine cutout on the receiver.

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Here's a quick snapshot comparing the top of the Element to a closed top Evo as well.

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I was told they were same base screw spacing as defiance, but will have to verify against my anti when my ffl gets back from vaca.

 

[Supersubes]

Is it cut for the Wyatt’s extended box magazine?

Mine arrived today. Here it is with a Wyatt’s 3” box installed. Standard 2.8” box below it.

 

[leeb10]

What prefits work with this action?