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Rifle Scopes New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

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<span style="font-weight: bold">SIII 10X42 MMD <span style="color: #CC0000">$549.95</span>
SIII 16X42 MMD <span style="color: #CC0000">$549.95</span>
SIII 20X42 MMD <span style="color: #CC0000">$549.95</span></span>
30mm tube
Modified Mil Dot reticle with 1/2 mil hash marks
1/4MOA windage and elevation (exposed knobs)
Rear parallax setting from 10yards-infinity
Fast focus eyebell
150 total MOA adjustment
ZACT-7 Revcoat Multi-Coating
ExacTrack windage and elevation adjustment system

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<span style="font-weight: bold">SIII SS 10-50x60 LR FCH <span style="color: #CC0000">$994.95</span></span> (Fine Crosshair reticle)
<span style="font-weight: bold">SIII SS 10-50x60 LR TD <span style="color: #CC0000">$994.95</span></span> (Target Dot reticle)
30mm tube
1/8MOA windage and elevation (Covered knobs)
Fast focus eyebell
Side Parallax focus from 10yards-infinity
50 total MOA adjustment
ZACT-7 Revcoat Multi-Coating
ExacTrack windage and elevation adjustment system

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<span style="font-weight: bold">SIII SS 8-32X56 LR TD <span style="color: #CC0000">$839.95</span></span> (Target Dot reticle)
<span style="font-weight: bold">SIII SS 8-32X56 LR MD <span style="color: #CC0000">$839.95</span></span> (Mil Dot reticle)
<span style="font-weight: bold">SIII SS 8-32X56 LR FCH <span style="color: #CC0000">$839.95</span></span> (Fine Crosshair reticle)
30mm tube
1/4MOA windage and elevation (Covered knobs)
Fast focus eyebell
Side Parallax focus
70 total MOA adjustment
ZACT-7 Revcoat Multi-Coating
ExacTrack windage and elevation adjustment system


 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

I vote torture test via Lowlight! I'm interested in the results, although judging from the reactions of other users that have Sightron scopes I don't think I'll see much negative feedback.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

i can't see why these scope companies are still developing scopes with mix matched reticles and adjustments. completely disconnected from their customers I guess. How hard could it be to develop a moa reticle, or keep the reticle and add .1 mil adjustments?
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pdd614</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i can't see why these scope companies are still developing scopes with mix matched reticles and adjustments. completely disconnected from their customers I guess. How hard could it be to develop a moa reticle, or keep the reticle and add .1 mil adjustments? </div></div>

I was thinking the same thing. What a shame.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pdd614</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i can't see why these scope companies are still developing scopes with mix matched reticles and adjustments. completely disconnected from their customers I guess. How hard could it be to develop a moa reticle, or keep the reticle and add .1 mil adjustments?</div></div>

Agreed.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

I can tell you from experience that Sightron's customer service is second to none. I've been looking hard at a US Optics ST-10, but will probably end up going with the Sightron 10x42 simply because of my experience with them.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

Seems like this could be quite the competitor for the Super Sniper...
4 years ago...
and for $200 less.


I've never needed to find out what SWFA's or Nightforce's customer service is like, and that doesn't make me want to buy them less.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

One of these days Sightron will come out with matched turrets and reticles. At which time they will give some manufacturers a run for their money. But until then they are just good scope with really nice glass.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ratbert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems like this could be quite the competitor for the Super Sniper...
4 years ago...
and for $200 less.


I've never needed to find out what SWFA's or Nightforce's customer service is like, and that doesn't make me want to buy them less.

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Just what I was thinking.
I would certainly look to the SS variables before these.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

That is a BIG disappointment that they are not matching reticle and knobs. If they were I would get one in a heartbeat. But they should also have a Side parallax version for their super sniper look alikes. I really like sightron (solid repeatable knobs and really good glass) as long as they maintain their great glass and repeatable NON mushy knobs (hint, hint, super sniper) even if they are making a super sniper look alike. I just wish they could have made a side parallax version with matching reticle MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

You know, there is something to be said for "really nice glass", and at these price points, SIII will have more than their fare share of fans, once again.
 
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I personally wrote a book to them on the subject of missed match features with a one line response of them telling me they will be working on mil/mil in the future. I hope this isnt what they meant.

I am however a proud owner of a 6-24x50SIII and just like I said in other Sightron posts as soon as they develop the mil/mil Ill be in line. I am curious on the new Vortex PST glass comparison to a Sightron. If the PST is anywhere near Ill prolley put in for one of those. Time will tell.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

Everyone seems to rave about the sightron glass, I'm working on a tight budget, does anyone have a direct comparison between sightron and a nikon monarch, and leupold. Specifically in clarity and brightness,
Thanks
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NY700</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everyone seems to rave about the sightron glass, I'm working on a tight budget, does anyone have a direct comparison between sightron and a nikon monarch, and leupold. Specifically in clarity and brightness,
Thanks</div></div>

What's your budget and what are you using the scope for?
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

NY700,

The glass and repeatablility on the Sightron SIIIs are second to none. All the quality is there but the features like ffp, mil/mil are not at this point. As Jason asked for us to help you we need to know what your use is for the optic is. Hunting, comps, tactical purposes, field use are very important when choosing. As long as the Vortex glass is as good as the Sightron I would opt for the new PST if you can wait and your budget allows.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NY700</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everyone seems to rave about the sightron glass, I'm working on a tight budget, does anyone have a direct comparison between sightron and a nikon monarch, and leupold. Specifically in clarity and brightness,
Thanks </div></div>

I've had both a Sightron SIII 6-24x50 and a Leupold Mk4 4.5-14x40 and between the two the sightron was by far the better scope. Both had good internals but the glass in the sightron was hands down better. Much brighter and better resolution with Sightron.
 
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Right now I have a nikon monarch 6x24x50 sf that I picked up used for $300. At that price I figured I can't go wrong. But I'm looking for something mil dot. My rig was originally thought out for fclass but I must admit this site has really gotton me interested in more of the practical tactical competitions. Long range unknow distance stuff. 90 percent of my shooting however will be target shooting at the range out to 600yds. My goal is to stay on budget wich is under $1K. Any thoughts ill gladly take.
 
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Here are some good options for under a grand.

Sightron SIII-Repeatable, great glass,mil/moa, outstanding customer service and warranty $700-$900

Vortex Viper(PST)-Repeatable, FFP, mil/mil, really dont know how it measures up glass wise to the Sightron but Im sure its close if not just as good. Excellent customer service and warranty. $800-$1000

Super Sniper(variable or HD)- Pretty much the same as the above listed scopes but glass may not be as good.$400-$700

Bushnell Tactical 4200series
Weaver Tactical

There are a couple of more but that should get you started on your research to what you may need. Just try to really figure out what your purpose is and match it to your style of shooting. We all buy something at one point or another that looks cool but really unnecessary for our application. Confidence is the difference between shooting well and shooting great. If you have faith in your equipment then its likely it will carry over to your shooting.
 
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I'll see if I can get my hands on of the new Sightron S3 10x42. I have both the original 10x42 Super Sniper and the new 10x42HD, so it will make for a good comparison.

Just for the record, I think 10x42HD has superb glass, easily as good or better than anything coming out of Japan these days (one caveat is that I have never seen March scopes, so I do not know about those).

I will also try to get my hands on Vortex Viper PST.

ILya
 
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It all depends on what you’re looking for.
It looks like the new vortex vipers have a ton of cool options. They have really listened to the customers. However, I wouldn’t discount the Sightrons.

I don’t know if the glass is different in the “PST” versions, but I have two vortex vipers and three Sightron SIII’s and the Sightrons are in a different league. You can really notice the difference at a high magnification in a low light situation.

With the vipers I feel like I got a good scope for what I paid. I will probably buy more. The Sightron SIII’s I feel like I got a better scope then what I paid. Right now, I can’t justify buying another nightforce or USO (I have both) when the SIII’s meet my needs with great glass at a fraction of the cost. If these fix powered “tacticool” Sightrons have the same glass as the other SIII’s, 150 moa, and 15 moa per revolution I think it’s probably a steal for $550.

On a side note, I have a couple vortex binoculars and the Razors are incredible. Highly recommended! I don’t think you could find better glass for 2-3 times the price. If they could put this glass in a scope under $1k, it would be something to compete.

 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkregulator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It all depends on what you’re looking for.
It looks like the new vortex vipers have a ton of cool options. They have really listened to the customers. However, I wouldn’t discount the Sightrons.

I don’t know if the glass is different in the “PST” versions, but I have two vortex vipers and three Sightron SIII’s and the Sightrons are in a different league. You can really notice the difference at a high magnification in a low light situation.

With the vipers I feel like I got a good scope for what I paid. I will probably buy more. The Sightron SIII’s I feel like I got a better scope then what I paid. Right now, I can’t justify buying another nightforce or USO (I have both) when the SIII’s meet my needs with great glass at a fraction of the cost. If these fix powered “tacticool” Sightrons have the same glass as the other SIII’s, 150 moa, and 15 moa per revolution I think it’s probably a steal for $550.

On a side note, I have a couple vortex binoculars and the Razors are incredible. Highly recommended! I don’t think you could find better glass for 2-3 times the price. If they could put this glass in a scope under $1k, it would be something to compete.

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I have been told that Viper PSTs have upgraded glass, but I won't know for sure until I test one.

ILya
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NY700</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everyone seems to rave about the sightron glass, I'm working on a tight budget, does anyone have a direct comparison between sightron and a nikon monarch, and leupold. Specifically in clarity and brightness,
Thanks </div></div>

I have a 3-9x40 SII that I bought for $200 from Midway on my 6.8 AR, also bought because I was on a budget at the time. It holds zero, tracks well, and the glass is a good as a Nikon Monarch I had on another gun before I sold it. Not as good as my IOR, or my Premier, but those scopes cost over 5-10x as much. The only motivation to upgrade from it (probably with a Super Sniper, or another IOR 2.5-10x44 FFP if I can find a good deal) is the lack target turrets.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kindred_spirits</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The fixed models look nice... I would have liked to see something in 3.5-18 magnification, with exposed target turrets, illumination, and a new reticle with matching knobs. </div></div>

Patience young Spirit. I forsee the future with mil/mil, ffp, illumiation and the same excellent quality glass Sightron produces. It only took Vortex a few yrs but they finally did as will Sightron.

On a serious note though...good companys like Sightron produce quality in stages not over night. This development of the fixed powered tac scopes are just another step. Hince the price of them. I would almost bet that by the end of the yr into 2011 they may have something a little more up our alley.
 
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How do the Sightron scopes compare to the Vortex in terms of tracking? Also, have there been any glass comparisons between the Viper and the existing SIII line?

I was thinking of getting a SIII, but I am really more interested in practical and I will also be using for occasional hunting. If the tracking is as good on the Viper as it is on the SIII, I may have to go with the Viper with matching turret/reticle, FFP and illumination.
 
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They look good and on par with the rest of the SIII line up. Turrets are audible and tactile. The reticle is a standard mil-dot with half mil markings. Turrets are 1/4 moa.

If you are considering a fixed power this should be on your short list.
 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdh308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a serious note though...good companys like Sightron produce quality in stages not over night. </div></div>
Spin alert!!!

Good companies like Sightron are set apart by <span style="text-decoration: underline">delaying</span> producing the features that we are looking for?
They would not have had to rush to get these features into their latest releases.

The "over night" companies have actually taken many months if not years to produce these features. The difference is that they listened to their customers and got busy.

Does this mean other companies that put out scopes "over night" with the features we are looking for are not good companies?

 
Re: New Sightron SIII "Tactical" scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They look good and on par with the rest of the SIII line up. Turrets are audible and tactile. The reticle is a standard mil-dot with half mil markings. Turrets are 1/4 moa.

If you are considering a fixed power this should be on your short list. </div></div>

I had to pick one up for myself, but I received an email noting that they were back ordered. Any idea when they will be back in stock?