Rifle Scopes Newb Question: Difference in use between a Sunshade, and a KillFlash on Kahles 624I

[sasquatch98226]

Maybe a silly question, but they say the only dumb question is the one not asked.

What is the functional difference between a killflash, and a sunshade? Specifcally in regards to a Kahles 624i. I see than the scope comes with neither, but both are sold as accessories.

Isn't the killflash a honeycomb matrix that sits in front of the objective to stop glare on the glass effectively doing the same work as a sun shade which just increases the tube lentgh in front of the objective to keep light from glaring on the lens and affecting the view through the scope?

 

[CSTactical]

Maybe a silly question, but they say the only dumb question is the one not asked.

What is the functional difference between a killflash, and a sunshade? Specifcally in regards to a Kahles 624i. I see than the scope comes with neither, but both are sold as accessories.

Isn't the killflash a honeycomb matrix that sits in front of the objective to stop glare on the glass effectively doing the same work as a sun shade which just increases the tube lentgh in front of the objective to keep light from glaring on the lens and affecting the view through the scope?

You got it! And yes the Killflash limits the reflection from your lens in a two way "range."

 

[gr8fuldoug]

The Killflash will also remove a reflective bounce of light off the end of the scope that a shade will not. This does not affect your view, however, it can show an alert of your presence

 

[sasquatch98226]

So if I am using this scope for PRS matches, is one preferred over the other. Obviously I don't care if there is a reflection off my lens towards the target, as the steel is not going to shoot back. But as for shooting into the sun, is one a better option that the other. It would seem the killflash if it does the same work as a sunshade may be a better option as it is shorter overall?

 

[Stpilot12]

I have Both for the k624.. you will loose just a touch of brightness with the ARD

 

[Rob01]

So if I am using this scope for PRS matches, is one preferred over the other. Obviously I don't care if there is a reflection off my lens towards the target, as the steel is not going to shoot back. But as for shooting into the sun, is one a better option that the other. It would seem the killflash if it does the same work as a sunshade may be a better option as it is shorter overall?

Length is not an issue unless it is hanging past your muzzle. 3-4" more on the scope will not be an issue but will protect your objective lens better from rain, mud and dirt. Never saw a need for a killflash shooting matches. No one is shooting back. Don't remember the last time I saw someone with a killflash on their scope but most use a sunshade. That should tell you something.

 

[demolitionman]

Used a friends gun that had a killflash on it. It was some sort of Nikon. The kilflash on that scope made a notable depreciation in the image quality downrsnge. FWIW.

 

[pell1203]

Definitively sunshade over killflash for any type of sport shooting.

Imagine looking through a clear window... now add an insect screen in front of the window as you are looking through it. Which one do you thinks gives you the best image? The killflash is similar to the screen!

 

[sasquatch98226]

Thanks guys, that what I thought, I just wanted to confirm.

 

[Tiger_Shilone]

Took the Killflash off my SWFA classic a few years ago and put the sunshade on instead. Scope view Picture was not as bright with killflash installed.

 

[natdscott]

ARD do have sporting uses, but only where the bulk of a sunshade is not desired.

Using an ARD will cut your twilight usage by about 10 minutes. That can be a deal breaker. Nice thing is, they come right off if you have to do so.

Resolution is far better with a shade. They are heavy, bulky, and catch on shit, and things can get stuffed under them.

That being said, for almost any type of 1-way range use, I can't see why you would opt for an ARD over a shade other than to look cool.

Given that an ARD makes a Nightforce look like a Tasco, 'look cool' is a piss poor reason to use one.