No Country for Old Men
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I buddy of mine left the local police department and got a contractor job in Afghanistan training their local police. He made good money and enjoyed the chance for something different. He found out quickly that the "limitations" placed on law enforcement officers here aren't even considered over there.
I buddy of mine left the local police department and got a contractor job in Afghanistan training their local police. He made good money and enjoyed the chance for something different. He found out quickly that the "limitations" placed on law enforcement officers here aren't even considered over there.
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I'm assuming this is with Dyncorp. There are a couple of other groups doing this but they have the major contract for this - as of a few years ago anyway. You'll go to TX for about 2 weeks - maybe a little longer for a whole battery of tests. They invite a bunch of guys for this and only take about half. Don't quit any job for this. You may find yourself back home without a job if you answer one of their thousands of pych questions wrong. Didn't happen to me me but I researched the crap out of it a few years back. Get on some other forums and see what's up with the company and how it all goes down now. Maybe try secureaspects.com. Not something to do without a ton of research.
I'm assuming this is with Dyncorp. There are a couple of other groups doing this but they have the major contract for this - as of a few years ago anyway. You'll go to TX for about 2 weeks - maybe a little longer for a whole battery of tests. They invite a bunch of guys for this and only take about half. Don't quit any job for this. You may find yourself back home without a job if you answer one of their thousands of pych questions wrong. Didn't happen to me me but I researched the crap out of it a few years back. Get on some other forums and see what's up with the company and how it all goes down now. Maybe try secureaspects.com. Not something to do without a ton of research.
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You'll do fine. Everybody knows not to mess with old guys. They'll just kill ya.
You'll do fine. Everybody knows not to mess with old guys. They'll just kill ya.
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If my department would allow me to take a leave of absence I would have been trying to do just what you're doing. It's not necessarily something I think I would enjoy but I sure as hell could get used to it for the money they pay. If I could go over for a year and come home with a paid off house it would have a significant impact on the family's quality of life from here on out.
Department won't go for it unfortunately.
If my department would allow me to take a leave of absence I would have been trying to do just what you're doing. It's not necessarily something I think I would enjoy but I sure as hell could get used to it for the money they pay. If I could go over for a year and come home with a paid off house it would have a significant impact on the family's quality of life from here on out.
Department won't go for it unfortunately.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't quit any job for this. You may find yourself back home without a job if you answer one of their thousands of pych questions wrong.</div></div>
That's not a problem for me, I'm retired. I'm retired LE, and I'm retired from the National Guard.
If I don't go, then I'll follow my granddaughter across the state to her basketball games. If it works I'll probabley spend most of the money I get buying stuff from the CMP.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't quit any job for this. You may find yourself back home without a job if you answer one of their thousands of pych questions wrong.</div></div>
That's not a problem for me, I'm retired. I'm retired LE, and I'm retired from the National Guard.
If I don't go, then I'll follow my granddaughter across the state to her basketball games. If it works I'll probabley spend most of the money I get buying stuff from the CMP.
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I was in Afghan earlier this year, Kabul, KAF, LNK, and Herat. The only time I was inside the wire was LNK the rest of the time I spent outside. Sometimes I had a local driver but when I was in Kabul I tooled around in an old van. Never used up armored anything there. It is prolly dangerous, I know its real shit in some places.
Now to the age thing, think about this...
The company I was there with employed 3 electricians that were over 60+, one was supposedly a retired Seal but I think he was pumping smoke. Anyway #1 Caught a real bad case of Pneumonia and the mil flew him out to Germany.
#2 The "seal" They were drunk after making the bars in Kabul and he slipped and fell, broke his leg in 2 places and was a bitch getting him out of the country.
#3 They think he had a heart attack but not 100%. He made it out but he will never work again. Had to put the paddles to him twice to get him to Germany.
All 3 cases were over a 3 month time frame.
Now lucky for us we had LOA's that provided medical from the mil but Afghan is full of contractors that don't have US Mil gigs and therefore you don't get the use of some stuff. The Medical part of this is huge. If you go there and its not on something to do with the US Mil or US Mil backed so you can get a CAC and LOA. I would stay at the house. LOL Then again here I am in the middle of nowhere southern Iraq on something that has absolutely nothing to do with the US Mil.
I was in Afghan earlier this year, Kabul, KAF, LNK, and Herat. The only time I was inside the wire was LNK the rest of the time I spent outside. Sometimes I had a local driver but when I was in Kabul I tooled around in an old van. Never used up armored anything there. It is prolly dangerous, I know its real shit in some places.
Now to the age thing, think about this...
The company I was there with employed 3 electricians that were over 60+, one was supposedly a retired Seal but I think he was pumping smoke. Anyway #1 Caught a real bad case of Pneumonia and the mil flew him out to Germany.
#2 The "seal" They were drunk after making the bars in Kabul and he slipped and fell, broke his leg in 2 places and was a bitch getting him out of the country.
#3 They think he had a heart attack but not 100%. He made it out but he will never work again. Had to put the paddles to him twice to get him to Germany.
All 3 cases were over a 3 month time frame.
Now lucky for us we had LOA's that provided medical from the mil but Afghan is full of contractors that don't have US Mil gigs and therefore you don't get the use of some stuff. The Medical part of this is huge. If you go there and its not on something to do with the US Mil or US Mil backed so you can get a CAC and LOA. I would stay at the house. LOL Then again here I am in the middle of nowhere southern Iraq on something that has absolutely nothing to do with the US Mil.
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So , an Vet of the South East Asia war games , a Old man from Wyoming , is headed over to the AssHataStan ??
Looks to me like he found a country to be King of with little to no effort .
kraig , scrap the idea and follow your granddaughter , you've done your time in hell and its time for you to enjoy life . Coffee's on me if you hit Rock Springs .
So , an Vet of the South East Asia war games , a Old man from Wyoming , is headed over to the AssHataStan ??
Looks to me like he found a country to be King of with little to no effort .
kraig , scrap the idea and follow your granddaughter , you've done your time in hell and its time for you to enjoy life . Coffee's on me if you hit Rock Springs .
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Just got back from OEF 10-1
First piece of advice I'd give you is to make sure you always have your weapon loaded and ready around any of the ANA or ANP. There are taliban infiltrators and sympathizers within both the ANA and ANP. Hell, there are simply ass backwards idiots who are willing to betray you for a quick buck. Towards the beginning of my deployment the Brits put out a mass casualty call on comm because some ANP ass hat decided to open fire on the backs of British soldiers.
In another occurrence a mass casualty call was made when ANP got in a fire fight with ANA. Both were comprised of competing tribes with blood feuds.
Most of the ANA and ANP are high on drugs. They smoke pot or chew a green substance that contains opiates. While in Marjah one of these retards had a negligent discharge with the M2 in the FOB and was high as shit.
These people are sketchy. I couldn't be paid enough to take that job.
Just got back from OEF 10-1
First piece of advice I'd give you is to make sure you always have your weapon loaded and ready around any of the ANA or ANP. There are taliban infiltrators and sympathizers within both the ANA and ANP. Hell, there are simply ass backwards idiots who are willing to betray you for a quick buck. Towards the beginning of my deployment the Brits put out a mass casualty call on comm because some ANP ass hat decided to open fire on the backs of British soldiers.
In another occurrence a mass casualty call was made when ANP got in a fire fight with ANA. Both were comprised of competing tribes with blood feuds.
Most of the ANA and ANP are high on drugs. They smoke pot or chew a green substance that contains opiates. While in Marjah one of these retards had a negligent discharge with the M2 in the FOB and was high as shit.
These people are sketchy. I couldn't be paid enough to take that job.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tell me I'm not a dumb ass.
I accepted a job for the Defense Dept as a Fielded Police Mentor (I think that means FTO or Field Training Officer) for the ANP in Afgan. (
I'm 63 years old. How bad am I screwing up???</div></div>Be ready to be frustrated as all hell with the jundies, they don't have any self-respect, pride, discipline or any redeeming qualities in my opinion...spent 4 years there. While I enjoyed myself for the most part, the people and country would probably be best off if it was 10,000 degrees and still burning.
As far as being a Police Mentor over there...I believe it was a DOS INL gig and it was just recently handed over to DOD (typically means less pay), but Dyn is big player in the 'Ghan in that department.
I say what the hell....do it, head over there and see for yourself what so many people "back on the block" just see on tv or read in the news and on forums. Nothing to say you can't roll over there and find it's not your cup of tea then bail out. It's definitely not for everyone, but I think it's worth experiencing (obviously
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tell me I'm not a dumb ass.
I accepted a job for the Defense Dept as a Fielded Police Mentor (I think that means FTO or Field Training Officer) for the ANP in Afgan. (
I'm 63 years old. How bad am I screwing up???</div></div>Be ready to be frustrated as all hell with the jundies, they don't have any self-respect, pride, discipline or any redeeming qualities in my opinion...spent 4 years there. While I enjoyed myself for the most part, the people and country would probably be best off if it was 10,000 degrees and still burning.
As far as being a Police Mentor over there...I believe it was a DOS INL gig and it was just recently handed over to DOD (typically means less pay), but Dyn is big player in the 'Ghan in that department.
I say what the hell....do it, head over there and see for yourself what so many people "back on the block" just see on tv or read in the news and on forums. Nothing to say you can't roll over there and find it's not your cup of tea then bail out. It's definitely not for everyone, but I think it's worth experiencing (obviously
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