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Opinions on Sig Sauer 556

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Looking for some reviews on the Sig Sauer 556 Model. One of my friends here at work pointed me towards it today when we were talking, but I haven't really seen much on it.

I tried doing a search on here, but didn't see a topic on it.

Decent Rifle, or POS. Worth the Money or will it take $$$ to get it performing decently?

Anyone that has one, please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks
 
Re: Opinions on Sig Sauer 556

You may want to search on sigforum.com and on the Sig forum on AR15.com.

There are alot of threads on those sites that should be able to answer any questions you have.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T-Wall</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking for some reviews on the Sig Sauer 556 Model. One of my friends here at work pointed me towards it today when we were talking, but I haven't really seen much on it.

I tried doing a search on here, but didn't see a topic on it.

Decent Rifle, or POS. Worth the Money or will it take $$$ to get it performing decently?

Anyone that has one, please let me know your thoughts.

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I like mine a lot. I wanted a clean running / piston drive rifle that I could easily mount optics,night vision,light and suppressor if need be and the Sig 556 (SWAT) model works for me. If I had to pick one weak spot the trigger is just OK. Compared to a Jewell that I am use to using its different but decent. No cycling issues,minimal recoil and a tad nose heavy.
I also ditched the factory stock for an ACE.

Thanks
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DV</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You may want to search on sigforum.com and on the Sig forum on AR15.com.

There are alot of threads on those sites that should be able to answer any questions you have. </div></div>

Thanks. I'll take a gander.

-Chris
 
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I have a Classic Swat Sig556 and absolutely love it. I haven't shot it past 50 yards yet (still working on finding a decent place to shoot) so I can't speak to it's grouping but with my 1-4x NF scope I destroy soda cans at about 30 yards! (and I'm a novice shooter)

The gun is very heavy with the factory quad rail and it's very hard to get a good cheek weld with the factory stock. The gun also is pretty hard on brass. Mine chucks the casings about 20 feet so I would be hesitant to reload. Only problem I had was a stuck firing pin (wouldn't come out of the bolt) but Sig sent me a new bolt within a few weeks.

The best site I've found for info on the Sig is www.sigarms556.com. Very helpful people over there.
 
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IMHO I'm not impressed by it. Maybe it's just the one I shot. The trigger definitely needs to be upgraded, he told me he adjusted it so I dunno what to say about that. Parts might be hard to find or expensive since some of their parts are not compatible with other AR15/M4 variants. I feel that they're overpriced and they only gurantee 3MOA? Again I've come to this conclusion because I've only shot my buddy's SIG 556 and he could very well have a shitty one. We tried using a Tapco mag on it and it didn't fit. Maybe bad mag? not sure.

On a good note, it did eat everything we fed it. From shitty steel cased, NATO surplus, reloads, to match grade ammo. No hiccups and was super reliable. SIG does offer awesome customer service because I've got one of their 1911s.
 
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I have the Sig 556 Swat Limited edition,magpul folding stock, dark earth. I love the weapon. As stated before it eats anything with aplomb. It cycles even better than an AK (Smoother). It does violently eject brass, I always have joked about being able to take out two enemys with one round (one from the bullet and one from the brass flying at 100 mph). The trigger is not a Jewell or Timney but it's not as crappy as a bone stock AR trigger nor as bad as a standard AK. I can live with it and do quite well with it. These aren't light weight rifles but they do handle well. The follow up shot on these is one of the best features this weapon has to offer. Staying on target and firing the next shot is awesome with this rifle. This is a 5.56 with the heart of an AK.
You want a cool running, ubber reliable, tough as nails weapon?, Then this is a great example. As far as accuracy, I believe it does as well as most AR's. I have impressed quite a few people with it's accuracy in some fun shoots.
General consensus:Some love it, some hate it.
I have some nice AR's, POF, Armalight, used to have Colt, Bushmasters. I love this one as well as any other and even prefer to grab it over the others.
I use magpul mags and they perform flawlessly with many magazine changes. Have used GI 30's and 20's with no feeding probs.
If you have larger hands or longer fingers you will find it even easier to feal at home. The magazine release is just a touch further forward than a standard AR but I have found that it is less likely to get depressed and release your mag when you dont want it to come out.
Hope this helps.
...............SmokeRolls
 
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I have 2 of the original Sig 551's. They are awesome. My wife and I bought them togeather. We both have them set up with Aimpoint's. They are extremely reliable, and as accurate as you need, and just a joy to shoot.
I think that if you tried a 556 Clasic, you'd be pleasently suprised. The 556 uses the Magpul E mag very well. JPG

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Thanks Guys. I Like the looks and the reviews so far. Want to make sure I do all the research I can as household 6 has said this next purchase will be the last for awhile.

Thanks

-Chris
 
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As a long time SIG 556 owner I must add that the 556 has has many quality issues. They seem to be hit a miss. Some a very good and some are VERY bad. Mine will shoot close to 1 MOA with 52 grajn SMK but 2-3+" with any other weight despite the 1:7 twist. I think the trigger is far superior to any stock AR 15 including any of my Colt's and is super reliable. One thing I really don't like is when the brass ejects it hit in back of the ejection port and will quickly wear off the finish unless you put electrical tape or something else to protect the finish. I used Velcro.
As mentioned before go to: www.sigarms556.com/ and read about all the problems the 556 has had before you buy. While I like mine I would recommend a Colt 6920 over my Sig 556.
 
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Yeah - i like mine alot too... i think the fitment between the upper and the lower is somewhat looser (i got mine with around 600 rnds already through it anyways) but it shoots in the bullseye at 50 which i was surprised at. It is nose heavy - i wonder if the short-stroke piston is lighter in that area? I have the 556E which has the long one. I heard that you can get the swat quad rail from sampson or an original swat rail from sig and it will lighten it up a little. All-in-all, i'd say for the 16in shooter - it shoots well, at least my particular one does. Plus it's pretty rugged from what i heard, i'm not gonna drag it through mud or anything.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheSmokeRolls</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the Sig 556 Swat Limited edition,magpul folding stock, dark earth. I love the weapon. As stated before it eats anything with aplomb. It cycles even better than an AK (Smoother). It does violently eject brass, I always have joked about being able to take out two enemys with one round (one from the bullet and one from the brass flying at 100 mph). The trigger is not a Jewell or Timney but it's not as crappy as a bone stock AR trigger nor as bad as a standard AK. I can live with it and do quite well with it. These aren't light weight rifles but they do handle well. The follow up shot on these is one of the best features this weapon has to offer. Staying on target and firing the next shot is awesome with this rifle. This is a 5.56 with the heart of an AK.
You want a cool running, ubber reliable, tough as nails weapon?, Then this is a great example. As far as accuracy, I believe it does as well as most AR's. I have impressed quite a few people with it's accuracy in some fun shoots.
General consensus:Some love it, some hate it.
I have some nice AR's, POF, Armalight, used to have Colt, Bushmasters. I love this one as well as any other and even prefer to grab it over the others.
I use magpul mags and they perform flawlessly with many magazine changes. Have used GI 30's and 20's with no feeding probs.
If you have larger hands or longer fingers you will find it even easier to feal at home. The magazine release is just a touch further forward than a standard AR but I have found that it is less likely to get depressed and release your mag when you dont want it to come out.
Hope this helps.
...............SmokeRolls </div></div>
Here are some pics. Notice the electrical tape behind the ejection port to protect finish from the brass flying at mach 1. Hahahahahahaha!
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I just ran a few rounds through a new 556 SWAT this past weekend and checked a few numbers last night. I hadn't planned on posting this here, but you may find it useful.

The Sig 556 SWAT (16" barrel, 1 in 7" twist) was put through a barrel break in procedure as previously described for the Sig 556 DMR. Using a Nightforce 3.5-15x50 NXS (F2) scope with a LaRue QD mount and a Lead Sled Solo, 25 rounds of each ammunition were tested. The first 5 rounds were used to sight in, followed by 4 x 5 round groups. A Chrony Beta was used to measure muzzle velocity for 10 shot strings (placed 10 feet from muzzle per the directions). All ammunition tested except the Hornady 55 gr SP and Fiochi 62 gr FMJ were Match grade. Weather conditions were excellent (sunny, 80 °F, very little wind).

The maximum spread for each 5 shot group was measured (center to center) and the mean ± standard deviation determined in inches and MOA as shown below:

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Frankly, I'm a little disappointed in these results. I also have a 556 DMR, which I can easily group at or below 1.0 MOA using the exact same scope, benchrest, etc., under identical conditions. I had hoped this rifle would group more in the 1.0 to 1.5 MOA range. As pointed out above, it may be this specific rifle. I have another identical one that I put through a barrel break in, but haven't done any kind of accuracy test as yet.

I bought these rifles for the purpose of taking a carbine training course, because the instructor (appropriately I think) would not allow me to use my 556 pistols. I'm a big fan of the reliability of the Sig gas piston system, and having several 556 pistols and rifles where the main upper/lower sections and bolt/carrier are virtually identical has its merits.

But as pointed out above, these are fairly heavy rifles (10-11 lb loaded, w optic and bipod), especially in the front. The SWAT patrol version with the short (556 pistol length) piston is supposed to correct the front end weight to some extent. Regarding the handguard comment above, I have weighed both the plastic (fishgill) and the Sig factory aluminum quadrail. The plastic guard was a hair over 14 oz., and the factory quadrail was slightly heavier at just under 17 oz. I checked because the quadrail felt a little heavier on the rifle, but I wanted to add MBUS instead of the steel hooded front sight/rear diopter and the fishgill handguard doesn't have a rail on top for the front.

In summary, I think these rifles will do the job for the purpose I bought them, but I do wish the accuracy was a little better. As already stated, they're tough and reliable, but a little heavy and hard on brass. So like everything else, it really depends on exactly what you want/expect out the weapon. Hope this helps you make a more informed decision.
 
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Wow - sorry, i'm glad you actually weighed the guards... I guess maybe just the sampson rail was maybe lighter? i have the fishgill one. Anyways, i'm also benefiting from your response too... so thanks!
 
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You know, I only weighed them because I've been trying to lighten these things up as much as I can, particularly in the front. OK...it's also because I'm incredibly anal about this stuff and have way too much free time (LOL). Anyhow, it's surprising how much the steel hooded front sight and rear diopter weigh compared to the plastic MBUS. By replacing the sights and using a Grip Pod instead of a Harris BRM/LaRue QD mount, I've gotten the overall weight down to ~9.5 lbs fully loaded. Still a little heavy, but much more acceptable than the 11+ lbs they were before. BTW, I didn't mean to imply you were wrong about the quadrails, Samson or Troy versions could well be lighter than the fishgill guard.
 
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I have a SIG556 Classic with some mods and I love it. You will find people that love it as I and you will also see a hate for these and I think it really boils down to a matter of personal preference.

The pros: This rifle is super reliable, accurate and will shoot anything thanks to the similarity of the AK design. It uses most AR type mags, muzzle attachments and depending on the model, you can also use their stocks. Good finish and ergonomics are good for me.

The cons: The rifle is a bit front heavy as mentioned and if you prefer a quad railing system it will weight it even more. SIGArms has had quality issues with these (not sure if they are still having them). Availability on aftermarket parts, cannot be stacked against an ARs' and it is overpriced if weighted on it's virtues.

Here's mine:
Troy's quad rail.
Troy's folding battle sights.
EOTech EXPS3-2 w/G23FTS 3X Magnifier.
Tango Down QD Vert. grip (stubby).
CAA UPG16 grip (customized).
Magpul MOE trigger guard (customized).
PWS FSC556 muzzle break (not pictured).
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Good luck with your quest...
Max
 
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Thanks for the help. Little disapointed in the accuracy area of the rifle. I think it's going to boil down to see which shop has one on hand and see how it feels. Lov the looks and the durabilty, just not sure on the accuracy piece.

-Chris
 
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T-,
I posted this info on Sig Forum after here as was my original intention. You might want to take a look at kaw_biker's response(s) before getting too upset about the 556 accuracy:

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/630601935/m/5780027322

I need to test my 556 #2 for comparison, but it's quite possible the results I posted ARE NOT typical. Even though it likely means that my 556 #1 is either a) an isolated lemon; or b) may need some type of work/repair, I'm hoping that is the case. I'd really like to believe Sig's 556 is generally a lot more accurate than what I observed with #1. As others have already mentioned, the ruggedness and reliability are the principle reasons I currently own five Sig 556 weapons and I hope I didn't possibly shake your faith with my earlier post.

Regardless of what you end up with, good luck in your quest!
 
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Owned a sig556 and sold it a few months later. My feedback:

PROS:
Dead nuts reliable and eats any ammo
Looks cool

CONS-
Limited or no ability to customize trigger, barrel, furniture.
Barrel walked shots when it heated up.
Accuracy was midling: 2.5MOA
Front-end heavy

I did not hate this rifle. I just realized after trying it that the AR platform has so many advantages that we take for granted. It is incredibly ergonomic, extremely reliable, and can be built into anything the owner desires: lego block style. The ability to put a custom match barrel on my rifle is critical and that is where an AR shines above all other semi-autos.
 
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Scooter-PIE said:
Owned a sig556 and sold it a few months later. My feedback:

PROS:
Dead nuts reliable and eats any ammo
Looks cool

CONS-
Limited or no ability to customize trigger, barrel, furniture.
Barrel walked shots when it heated up.
Accuracy was midling: 2.5MOA
Front-end heavy

this is true to a point i have one B/T front end is lighter then swat i moded ar magpul grip to mine magpul crt stock -a yhm 4 slot phantom clocked at 1000 200 top slots yes she has weight but with good ammo [77 grain bh]at 100 yds 3/4'' groups easy front sight is a troy ar sight
 
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One tip you might consider is to find a lighly used older basic model, serial # less than JS 25000. Then swap the butt stock for a Magpul CTR and the fishgill hand guards for the 551 Swiss handguards. Makes for a light and very handy rifle that is not anywhere as front heavy. That's what I did and I really like the rifle aside from the fact it only shoots 52 grain SMK's well. If you buy a used one locally perhaps you can try it out before you buy it. That might alleviate the QC concerns which also bothered me before I bought mu very lightly used one.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cz777</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Scooter-PIE said:
Owned a sig556 and sold it a few months later. My feedback:

PROS:
Dead nuts reliable and eats any ammo
Looks cool

CONS-
Limited or no ability to customize trigger, barrel, furniture.
Barrel walked shots when it heated up.
Accuracy was midling: 2.5MOA
Front-end heavy

this is true to a point i have one B/T front end is lighter then swat i moded ar magpul grip to mine magpul crt stock -a yhm 4 slot phantom clocked at 1000 200 top slots yes she has weight but with good ammo [77 grain bh]at 100 yds 3/4'' groups easy front sight is a troy ar sight </div></div>
CZ: You got any pics on that. I've been wanting to shape a Magpul grip to my sig. I'm not as fond of the sig grip as I am the feel of the Magpul.
...SmokeRolls