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E. Bryant said:
The current FDA regs do indeed go back much further than the transition of fast food from "occasional treat" to "two of my three meals each day". Basically, they represent the sugar and grain industry's lobbying strength. And frankly, if we've got a few hundred million mouths to feed with a couple thousand calories each day, grain products are the most economical solution if we ignore pubic health effects. I can buy those calories in the local grocery store for less than a tenth of a penny apiece - truly a remarkable accomplishment.

Unfortunately, that's not an appropriate diet for humans. And then we doubled-down on our mistakes when the effects of a carb-heavy diet were mistaken for those of excessive consumption of animal fats. It's almost certainly the biggest public health failure in modern times (although the tobacco lobby might want to argue for this trophy).

Oh, and go investigate the effects of stress on insulin resistance, and then figure out the likely outcome of combining that with a Western diet and a lack of physical exertion. That we've been able to keep people alive as long as we do is an accomplishment of medical technology, although I'm not sure anyone should be proud of this.

Fast food isn't the cheapest way to eat on a calories-per-dollar basis (10 chicken McNuggets for $1.99 is about 5x more expensive than bagged white flour from the supermarket on this basis), but most people can afford it and that combined with laziness means that it becomes the default option (much as paying $100/month for cable has become the default recreational pursuit for
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Yesterday around 1400hrs, wife and I were in town. She informed me that I really need to eat something(lost 40 pounds since March).
I informed her, I really felt like eating something out of a dumpster, some really shitty fast food.
There could be only one choice obviously....McDonalds.
So they haD all these meal deals going on for under $20. 4 different meal deals. I cant remember them all, but we got the 2 Macs, 2 med fries, 20 nuggets for $16 plus I got a diet Coke. The dogs were very happy with the leftovers.
Later we marveled at how a 3 person family could pass up that deal. You couldn't recreate that meal at home for $16.
Now I'm not likely to eat out of that garbage can again for another year, but its hard to argue that poor folks are just lazy garbage eaters.
Fast food is quite a cheap option.
Sure, its garbage, but....
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
Yesterday around 1400hrs, wife and I were in town. She informed me that I really need to eat something(lost 40 pounds since March).
I informed her, I really felt like eating something out of a dumpster, some really shitty fast food.
There could be only one choice obviously....McDonalds.
So they haD all these meal deals going on for under $20. 4 different meal deals. I cant remember them all, but we got the 2 Macs, 2 med fries, 20 nuggets for $16 plus I got a diet Coke. The dogs were very happy with the leftovers.
Later we marveled at how a 3 person family could pass up that deal. You couldn't recreate that meal at home for $16.
Now I'm not likely to eat out of that garbage can again for another year, but its hard to argue that poor folks are just lazy garbage eaters.
Fast food is quite a cheap option.
Sure, its garbage, but....
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Good on you for losing so much weight.
 
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Congrats on the weight loss!!!!

I think you be hard pressed to spend $16 making that meal yourself.

Ground Beef $4
Buns $2
Condiments $.25
Lettuce, Onion, pickle $.50
Thousand Island Dressing $.25
French Fries $2
Chicken Nuggets $2
Diet Soda $2

I believe my numbers are on the high side too.

If I'm going to eat carry out, I'm going to a sub shop. I can get a pizza for $15 and feed 3-4 people or a sub for $8-10 and feed 2 people. I find that type of carry out food is much healthier than McD, BurgerKing or Wendy's. Just my personal opinion.
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
So they haD all these meal deals going on for under $20. 4 different meal deals. I cant remember them all, but we got the 2 Macs, 2 med fries, 20 nuggets for $16 plus I got a diet Coke. The dogs were very happy with the leftovers.
Later we marveled at how a 3 person family could pass up that deal. You couldn't recreate that meal at home for $16.
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I could recreate that for the same money with a bit of smart shopping and probably do it with better ingredients, but that takes time as does the preparation. So yeah, I totally understand the appeal, and trust me, I'm no saint when it comes to this. If I've got less than an hour between picking up the kids from band practice and getting them to Scouts, and it's a 20-minute trip to the house, then we're probably hitting a drive-thru. But there should be a difference between that (or your trip) and doing it every day.

BTW, congrats on the weight loss. What'd ya do to make it happen?
 
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E. Bryant said:
I could recreate that for the same money with a bit of smart shopping and probably do it with better ingredients, but that takes time as does the preparation. So yeah, I totally understand the appeal, and trust me, I'm no saint when it comes to this. If I've got less than an hour between picking up the kids from band practice and getting them to Scouts, and it's a 20-minute trip to the house, then we're probably hitting a drive-thru. But there should be a difference between that (or your trip) and doing it every day.

BTW, congrats on the weight loss. What'd ya do to make it happen?
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Keto
One cheat meal a week with the stipulation that it contain no actual sugar, and not to exceed 60g of carbs.
Sweating like a whore in church under the Alabama heat.
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
Keto
One cheat meal a week with the stipulation that it contain no actual sugar, and not to exceed 60g of carbs.
Sweating like a whore in church under the Alabama heat.
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I'd honestly suggest no planned in cheat meals. I don't know what good they do for people other than to remind them the other six days of the week that they aren't getting to eat what they really want.
 
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wade2big said:
Its all a mental game. Don’t define the one meal a week as a “cheat meal” as it is a planned part of the diet or lifestyle if you will. This higher calorie meal once a week can and will speed up the weight-loss process.

The trick is not to plan this meal from the start. It’s important to build discipline and willpower first. After a couple months a man is usually in control at that point and the once a week meal can be added without fear of relapsing. My experiences at least.
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Did someone else say something?
I couldn't hear them.
I'm sure it was something absolutely retarded and asinine.
I took no cheat meals first month.

I appreciate your comments wade2big.
 
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wade2big said:
Its all a mental game. Don’t define the one meal a week as a “cheat meal” as it is a planned part of the diet or lifestyle if you will. This higher calorie meal once a week can and will speed up the weight-loss process.

The trick is not to plan this meal from the start. It’s important to build discipline and willpower first. After a couple months a man is usually in control at that point and the once a week meal can be added without fear of relapsing. My experiences at least.
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I don't need to lose any weight, so I can't really speak to whether a cheat meal is helpful to that process. It sounds an awful lot like bro science to me, though.

I can say that, as long as I can remember, I've never been tempted to eat a McDonalds or have an ice cream, and I like ice cream a lot. So for me it isn't discipline, it is goal setting. If you have a goal, and you prefer it to ice cream, it isn't a hard choice just to have a coffee instead. That's just me, though. I've never really had to be disciplined because I've remained motivated, no matter the issue. I have more respect, though, for those who have to overcome those urges.

I still think that if you need a cheat meal to help lose weight, it is probably being used as a mechanism to keep from cheating on a larger scale. That's fine, but feeling deprived is a big reason that people slide back into their own ways. That said, if you are fat and losing weight, you have my respect.
 
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can start by just not eating out and not eating as fucking much. its that simple tbh. you can go on various diets and whatnot. but really it comes down to not being lazy and then not stuffing yourself until you comatose at every meal. then eating a bag of chips and drinking a 2litre of soda until the next time you stuff yourself to comatose with 4 quadruple bacon cheese grease burgers from im too fucking lazy to cookville...

mixed in with even very modest excersize will yield results.

plus eating out even if just fast food is more expensive than cooking at home. this is fact. of course unless you ordering off child menu or the dollar menu...which is doubtful.
 
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OldSalty2 said:
can start by just not eating out and not eating as fucking much. its that simple tbh. you can go on various diets and whatnot. but really it comes down to not being lazy and then not stuffing yourself until you comatose at every meal. then eating a bag of chips and drinking a 2litre of soda until the next time you stuff yourself to comatose with 4 quadruple bacon cheese grease bugers from im too fucking lazy to cookville...

mixed in with event very modest excersize will yield results.

plus eating out even if just fast food is more expensive than cooking at home. this is fact. of course unless you ordering off child menu or the dollar menu...which is doubtful.
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It's really more about preferring to be in reasonable shape to whatever atrocity you are hoping to put in your mouth. I get discipline over motivation, but it only really comes into play if you can't figure out how to get motivated.
 
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Choid said:
It's really more about preferring to be in reasonable shape to whatever atrocity you are hoping to put in your mouth. I get discipline over motivation, but it only really comes into play if you can't figure out how to get motivated.
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if you mean its a choice then i completely agree. most things are a choice, life is a series of choices, really. its up to you to motivate yourself. need motivation? got to start with self before anything else will help. the fat industry im sure is multi billions with trainers and motivators etc. not to mention hc costs and the like...

i dont think shaming necessarily helps. but ffs, small choices can make a huge difference...
 
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OldSalty2 said:
can start by just not eating out and not eating as fucking much. its that simple tbh. you can go on various diets and whatnot. but really it comes down to not being lazy and then not stuffing yourself until you comatose at every meal. then eating a bag of chips and drinking a 2litre of soda until the next time you stuff yourself to comatose with 4 quadruple bacon cheese grease burgers from im too fucking lazy to cookville...

mixed in with even very modest excersize will yield results.

plus eating out even if just fast food is more expensive than cooking at home. this is fact. of course unless you ordering off child menu or the dollar menu...which is dopremiers.
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Damn. Where have you been all my life?
You should write a book.

I would love for you to have been at some of the matches I've attended and announced that all I needed was to eat less and not be lazy. That would have been fun.
 
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OldSalty2 said:
if you mean its a choice then i completely agree. most things are a choice, life is a series of choices, really. its up to you to motivate yourself. need motivation? got to start with self before anything else will help. the fat industry im sure is multi billions with trainers and motivators etc. not to mention hc costs and the like...

i dont think shaming necessarily helps. but ffs, small choices can make a huge difference...
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I'm not shaming anybody, I have all the respect in the world for people who lose weight. Even guys who decide not to take advice because they got a sad from somebody's politics.

I think my point is more along these lines. As a kid, I was a competitive golfer. A lot of parents wanted their kids to be as well. Some of us practiced because we wanted to get better, some of us practiced because our parents would let us take Sunday off if we hit balls every other day. You can guess which ones quit playing golf once their parents didn't have control over them.

In a way it is a mind game, but you can choose to prefer the better outcome, or tell yourself that if you do this for enough days, then you can do the thing you are trying not to do. The former is easy because you are always making the choice you want to make, the latter is a struggle to the end, because you are always choosing something so that you can do what you really want later on.
 
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we all have our vices and no one is perfect...im far, far, FAR from it. but i also know its my choice to address those things within my control. and by proxy i also know that i am singularly responsible for the consequences of those decisions.
i may have put it more harshly than i really wanted to convey this point.
 
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You know, back in the day, living on Chow Hall food, I got pretty "Buffed". Worked out, at a minimum of 4 days a week. When you're a broke-ass G.I., all you had to do to fill your days, was to go to the gym. When I went in at 18, I was 180lbs. and in pretty good shape for a farm boy.
Service motivated me to stay in shape, because...Military. Played football when I was Overseas, 265lbs, benched 320, squat 650, all free-weights, ran 5 miles twice a week. was on a WAPS waiver, as long as I looked sharp in my uniform, per Command.
Got back to the States, kept up my routines, raced m.x./desert until about 35.
Then got married, children, life's responsibilities, blah, blah, blah.
So....spending time in a gym, wasn't a priority and when that happens, life catches up fast.
Did stay in decent shape while I worked as a C.O., because...C.O. shit.
Don't have any serious health issues, so I'm lucky there, BUT, am getting older and can tell the difference.
They way I look/feel about it, everything in moderation. There's good and bad in all things related to food and/or eating. Just have to moderate it. Some people's bodies are just different. Some can help it, others can't.
My doc says I'm "fat", but, I can still pull my fat ass around pretty damn good for a man of 62 years of age, even with my leg/foot surgeries (not a health issue, but a dumbass issue). Mac
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
Yesterday around 1400hrs, wife and I were in town. She informed me that I really need to eat something(lost 40 pounds since March).
I informed her, I really felt like eating something out of a dumpster, some really shitty fast food.
There could be only one choice obviously....McDonalds.
So they haD all these meal deals going on for under $20. 4 different meal deals. I cant remember them all, but we got the 2 Macs, 2 med fries, 20 nuggets for $16 plus I got a diet Coke. The dogs were very happy with the leftovers.
Later we marveled at how a 3 person family could pass up that deal. You couldn't recreate that meal at home for $16.
Now I'm not likely to eat out of that garbage can again for another year, but its hard to argue that poor folks are just lazy garbage eaters.
Fast food is quite a cheap option.
Sure, its garbage, but....
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Not long ago a guy had a complete physical done. His doctor did weekly blood work and other tests while the main ate McDonald's for every meal for 30 days. After three weeks the doctor advised him to stop. His blood pressure, sugar, cholesterol and vitamin level's were totally fubar.
 
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I've lost 35 lbs over the last 2 years. I've found that push aways are good but combined with push ups, is where you lose the lbs that stay off.

Ya gotta find some type of exercise to do. You don't need to run a 5K, you don't need to dead lift 400 lbs, just get up and move. That kicks your metabolism into gear and helps melt the lbs.
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
Yesterday around 1400hrs, wife and I were in town. She informed me that I really need to eat something(lost 40 pounds since March).
I informed her, I really felt like eating something out of a dumpster, some really shitty fast food.
There could be only one choice obviously....McDonalds.
So they haD all these meal deals going on for under $20. 4 different meal deals. I cant remember them all, but we got the 2 Macs, 2 med fries, 20 nuggets for $16 plus I got a diet Coke. The dogs were very happy with the leftovers.
Later we marveled at how a 3 person family could pass up that deal. You couldn't recreate that meal at home for $16.
Now I'm not likely to eat out of that garbage can again for another year, but its hard to argue that poor folks are just lazy garbage eaters.
Fast food is quite a cheap option.
Sure, its garbage, but....
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Good job on the weight loss, keep it up.
Nothing wrong w going into town every now and then and eat some junk, if you care too. Keep up the good work
 
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Why God oh why did I go down the stupid hole and argue with SJW cucks on reddit....why why why?

You guys think some of leftist dipshits on this site are bad...holy sweet mother those reddit cucks take it to a whole new level.
 
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Choid said:
OK, I haven't encountered any. And if you think I am a leftist, you are certifiable.
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Not everything is about you, did I say anything about you being a leftist. Jesus, do you get a tingling feeling under the tip of your prick when someone mentions the word leftist?

If I say leftist three times in a row do you appear like Beetlejuice?
 
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