Powder Recomendations

[onebdgti]

Since everything local and online is out of Varget Powder what else are people using to substitute. Looking at burn rates you have Winchester 748 and Vihtavouri N140. Has anybody tried the Vihtavouri powder?

 

[Steel head]

Powder valley has varget if you hurry

 

[onebdgti]

There out of stock on it. Added quanity to the cart and it says -1 in stock, Thats why i am asking this looking for other options.

 

[rweaver00geo]

W748 may be close on the burn rate chart however I feel a lot of people and I disagree with this. On older charts it was between H335 and H322. (Sierra Rifle Reloading Manual, 4th Edition and Vihtavuori 1996 reloading guide) Has it been reformulated and slowder down, I dont know. It doesnt seem that fast either IMO. A better ball alternative for varget is AA2520. I havent had any experience with Vihtavouri powder.

 

[Steel head]

I really like W748 as a bulk powder for 223 with 55-69 grain bullets.
It meters like water.

It’s not something I’d really consider if heat sensitivity and low ES are major concerns.

 

[onebdgti]

Well this isnt really for my 223 it for my 308 175G Nosler HBPT.

 

[bschneiderheinze]

4064 4895

 

[Steel head]

Well this isnt really for my 223 it for my 308 175G Nosler HBPT.

I know 4895 and 4064 are popular for that application.

 

[BCX]

RL-15 and Norma 203b should work close to Varget.

 

[onebdgti]

I know 4895 and 4064 are popular for that application.

Yes but all of those are out of stock everywhere.

 

[onebdgti]

RL-15 and Norma 203b should work close to Varget.

I will check into those. Thanks

 

[John Glidewell]

I run 73 grain Berger BT in my 223. I just tested 2000-MR and it did very well. I use to run AR Comp or Varget. Getting more speed with 2000-MR. Established max just over 26 grains, node is going to be around 25 at 2850 to 2900. I will do a more refined test across 25 soon.

 

[onebdgti]

Ordered some Norman 202 and 203b. Will do some testing to see how these do

 

[BCX]

Norma 203b is identical to RL-15. you can use the same load data.

 

[onebdgti]

Norma 203b is identical to RL-15. you can use the same load data.

Good to know. Thanks for the info

 

[mtrmn]

Accurate Powder's answer for a 4895 substitute is Acc 2495. I have NOT tried it. Just giving a suggestion to try in these times of low supply.

 

[clcustom1911]

Ramshot TAC is another one in that general burn speed with 4064, 4895, varget, N140 etc.

 

[mtnhunter22]

Going to try some 4895 and StaBall this weekend. Will be running those two in the GT this season with the lack of varget.

 

[onebdgti]

I have used 4895 and it does very well.

 

[mgrs]

4064 is very close to varget and often shoots even better.

It will give your powder measure fits, however.

 

[FLIGHT762]

The Norma 202 should work well for you. 202 is the same powder that Alliant used to market under the Reloader 12 name. Similar to 4895.

 

[onebdgti]

The Norma 202 should work well for you. 202 is the same powder that Alliant used to market under the Reloader 12 name. Similar to 4895.

I use 4895 and the gun loves it. Hopefully it likes the 202 just as well.

 

[forrestgump01]

The last 308 I had i ran n140. vhitivori is a little bit more money but is worth it . you can try the n550 if you want a llittle more speed.

 

[Stavey]

I switched to AR comp for my 308 loads and not only did group sizes shrink but standard deviations went down as well. Wish I would’ve switched sooner . I plan on trying AR comp under 120g amax/eld in 6.5 creedmoor soon ( hopefully this week).

 

[hengehold]

Since everything local and online is out of Varget Powder what else are people using to substitute. Looking at burn rates you have Winchester 748 and Vihtavouri N140. Has anybody tried the Vihtavouri powder?

I have used VitaVouri N140 in place of Varget in my 308 and it performed VERY well. The N140 provided almost the same velocity for same powder weight. It is also much cleaner burning than Varget.