PRS Match - Is slinging up worth it?

swagner2000

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Most of my past shooting in matches was Service Rifle, where using a sling is an integral part of the positions (except off-hand). Last year I did a couple of PRS matches (Rayner's Range in Ohio) and caught the PRS bug. So, this year I built a practice barricade and have been working on trying to get into positions quickly and trying to get steady. I have been using the Rifles Only bungee sling and also testing out the Vickers sling, using it over the back of the neck and under left arm like Jacob Bynum demonstrates in the videos for the bungee sling.

Trouble is I am not getting the results I think I should be getting at the practice range (not very steady and getting back on target post-recoil slower than I would like) . In fact, today at the range with the barricade, I got frustrated and took the sling off and just tried to get in a relaxed position. I did notice in that some positions if I concentrated on keeping relaxed and focused my breathing, I seemed to be steadier. Granted the steadiness was not for every position and was somewhat fleeting.

So my question is whether trying to use a sling for every position is worth it? Am I better off trying to build my position without the sling and focus on finding positions that work? I am using a Game Changer, Fat Bag, and other support bags. I did notice no one in my squad at last year's matches were using slings. For now, I run a pretty modest rifle - Savage 10 (.308) with Oryx chassis.

Any advice is appreciated by this newbie!
 

Covertnoob5

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Rifle balance point and a building a good position will go a lot further than a sling will help in most situations. There’s a reason you don’t see most shooters using a sling pretty much ever. Don’t need it.
 

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Current PRS has evolved a good bit off the trail of practical which was specifically in the original wording outlining the intent of the series.

Early "Tactical" and outlaw field competitions had a good mix of positional (no supports or props to utilize), prone and supported positional while keeping the rounds per stage low and high value to solve the problem. Everything from hunting to Military to L.E. shows that a surprising percentage of shots are taken from a non-supported position because that was all there was available at the moment.

There are several niches of rifle marksmanship training where proper sling use is taught and encouraged to stay proficient on but PRS/NRL is not one of them any longer. 18 to 25# rifles with excessive LOP and really long barrels being the current norm is testament to the evolution path stage designs have chosen.

To answer your question, I would say exactly what Rob01 said but in a way less sexy voice.


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I use the Armageddon gear with the arm cuff and leave the back disconnected. I haven't found a good way to use it as a bungee, but it works great as more of a single point positional.
 
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Depends on the stage. If it was pure unsupported position shooting; standing / kneeling / sitting / prone I would use mine.

If I've got other objects to use that make it more of standing supported by whatever or kneeling supported on something, I wouldn't.
 
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I’d say anything that makes you more stable without being a distraction is a positive. If it’s a distraction it’s a negative.
 

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IMHO, slings have no place in the PRS/NRL arena. They do, however, have a place in tactical matches or similar style. I say this because of the PAR times and set-up surrounding a single stage in the PRS/NRL Match. As you have seen, you may have to move and build your position 3, 4, and sometime even more times in a single stage. Adding another layer to the already chaotic situation of messing with a sling I don’t think it’s worth it.

I do believe it’s worth training with and being familiar but not proficient in.
 

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I've shot somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 PRS/NRL matches in the last 3 years. I've used my sling 4 times, and 3 of those times were at Rifles Only.
 
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@Covertnoob5 can you elaborate a little more on finding and using the rifle balance point? Is it making sure the bag is under that balance point when position?

Thanks to Hide members who have responded so far.
Something like below in the pics is a well balanced rifle.
It’ll be much easier to maintain a stable position if you aren’t fighting the balance of the rifle.
All my rifle configurations will sit like that all day with no issues.

eta: the rifle should self balance just in front of the magwell.
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Something like below in the pics is a well balanced rifle.
It’ll be much easier to maintain a stable position if you aren’t fighting the balance of the rifle.
All my rifle configurations will sit like that all day with no issues.

eta: the rifle should self balance just in front of the magwell.
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Thanks for those pictures. Makes a lot of sense now.

I appreciate the other responses fellow Hide members!
 

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18 to 25# rifles with excessive LOP and really long barrels being the current norm is testament to the evolution path stage designs have chosen.
@Terry Cross, if possible can you please expand on your comments on LOP. What LOP do you consider excessive for an average size male and what factors do you think are driving longer LOP in PRS rifles?

I'm experimenting with different LOPs at the moment and am keen to hear informed opinions on the topic.
 

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I’ve shot Highpower for a couple of decades and have been shooting some PRS also the last few years.

Don’t waste your time with a sling unless it’s to carry your rifle from stage to stage. The stages where a sling would be helpful are very few and far between.

In your barricade example, the best option is to free recoil. Balance the rifle on a bag and try to touch it as little as possible to break the shot. Recovery with a .308 will admittedly be more difficult than with a 6mm.

I slung in with my T2k one time for an unsupported sitting stage. Everyone was very impressed with how fast I could miss.
 

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Current PRS has evolved a good bit off the trail of practical which was specifically in the original wording outlining the intent of the series.

Early "Tactical" and outlaw field competitions had a good mix of positional (no supports or props to utilize), prone and supported positional while keeping the rounds per stage low and high value to solve the problem. Everything from hunting to Military to L.E. shows that a surprising percentage of shots are taken from a non-supported position because that was all there was available at the moment.

There are several niches of rifle marksmanship training where proper sling use is taught and encouraged to stay proficient on but PRS/NRL is not one of them any longer. 18 to 25# rifles with excessive LOP and really long barrels being the current norm is testament to the evolution path stage designs have chosen.

To answer your question, I would say exactly what Rob01 said but in a way less sexy voice.


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[off track ] I’ve been amused by this development for the last few yrs now.
First let me put out there that I really want to find time to dabble in “field shooting” matches, even built a rifle for it, but playing F-TR + life has kept me busy. I’ve been shooting competition for about 10 yrs now and I still recall the general consensus here that 18 lb rifles with long barrels were ”not tactical” (not that anyone ever implied that they were) and you only needed a 308 with an 18” barrel to shoot 1000 yds. Not complaining or finding fault, just noting the changes that I’ve observed in the past few yrs.