I want to make a brake for my Savage 10FP in .308 and I just want to know do the holes have to be at any certain angle? My SIG 556's brake just looks like holes but I would think in order to keep the pressure keeping the barrel down and striaght they would have to be at an angle. Am I right in my thoughts and what angle shoud the holes be at as well if they are needed?
Gunsmithing question about making a muzzel brake
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Re: question about making a muzzel brake
They don't have to be at any angle if you don't want them to.They can be perpendicular to the bore. If you are going to be shooting on the ground, in a dusty environment especially, then you may not want holes in the bottom of the brake so that you don't get an enormous dust cloud every time you shoot. Another option is to cut slots, kinda like fish gills.
They don't have to be at any angle if you don't want them to.They can be perpendicular to the bore. If you are going to be shooting on the ground, in a dusty environment especially, then you may not want holes in the bottom of the brake so that you don't get an enormous dust cloud every time you shoot. Another option is to cut slots, kinda like fish gills.
Re: question about making a muzzel brake
I shoot prone most time so I was planning on only having holes or slots on the top and sides.
I shoot prone most time so I was planning on only having holes or slots on the top and sides.
Re: question about making a muzzel brake
I would think any angle like this \\ as viewed from the side would have a comp effect. I could be completely wrong but it seems like it would have to have that effect. Also as viewed from the top this >>) shape should catch more blast thus pull the rifle more forward. The sound is also directed more back. The opposite would be true for this <<) shape making it quieter at the shooter but less effective. ) being the end of the barrel.
Anyway plenty of brakes vent just perpendicular from the bore so i think its all in what characteristics you want.
I would think any angle like this \\ as viewed from the side would have a comp effect. I could be completely wrong but it seems like it would have to have that effect. Also as viewed from the top this >>) shape should catch more blast thus pull the rifle more forward. The sound is also directed more back. The opposite would be true for this <<) shape making it quieter at the shooter but less effective. ) being the end of the barrel.
Anyway plenty of brakes vent just perpendicular from the bore so i think its all in what characteristics you want.
Re: question about making a muzzel brake
Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all?
Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all?
Re: question about making a muzzel brake
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrOneEyedBoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all? </div></div>
The good folks at Harrell's will tell you that there is not any serious engineering behind brakes - theirs at least. They seem to be well regarded, are 'old school', and would not even accept my payment by phone. The "$30 invoice will be in the box" is what I was told.
From my standpoint, until we enter into nozzle design (where the machining costs will make them unattractive to purchase anyway), brakes simply trade forces from angular discharge for felt recoil. Maybe someone will correct me...
I am sure you could affect the round with MB outlets, but that effect would be taken into account by your zero. I would assume if you remove the brake, a zero shift will result. I have not received my brake (or new barrel) yet to verify.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrOneEyedBoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all? </div></div>
The good folks at Harrell's will tell you that there is not any serious engineering behind brakes - theirs at least. They seem to be well regarded, are 'old school', and would not even accept my payment by phone. The "$30 invoice will be in the box" is what I was told.
From my standpoint, until we enter into nozzle design (where the machining costs will make them unattractive to purchase anyway), brakes simply trade forces from angular discharge for felt recoil. Maybe someone will correct me...
I am sure you could affect the round with MB outlets, but that effect would be taken into account by your zero. I would assume if you remove the brake, a zero shift will result. I have not received my brake (or new barrel) yet to verify.
Re: question about making a muzzel brake
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrOneEyedBoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all? </div></div>
Not really, some may try to tell you so. But the reality is you make up a muzzel brake, THEN make up a story about the reason and all the R&D you did to come up with your final design.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrOneEyedBoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all? </div></div>
Not really, some may try to tell you so. But the reality is you make up a muzzel brake, THEN make up a story about the reason and all the R&D you did to come up with your final design.
Re: question about making a muzzel brake
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrOneEyedBoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all? </div></div>
As long as it's perfectly even/symetrical you can't go wrong, as for angle I've found 10deg works well
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrOneEyedBoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there serious engineering behind brakes? Or is it a trial and error type thing? Can you make ports on the MB that would effect the round at all? </div></div>
As long as it's perfectly even/symetrical you can't go wrong, as for angle I've found 10deg works well
