Guys, if you want to bitch/complain/cry about Appleseed do it someplace besides a thread where someone asked about a rifle to take to an Appleseed.
One of the things you (should have) read and agreed to when joining here was to try to keep topics on track.
Now to some of the comments on the Appleseed rifle thread (which I didn't respond to there because that threads for questions/comments about Appleseed rifles, or so I thought when I read the original post)
You think Fred needs someone to stick up for him? You really don't know Fred. You think I'm here to stick up for Fred? You don't know me. You don't like Fred? I don't care. I don't have much use for him either, so what. What has that got to do with helping a guy that's asking questions about his rifle set up?
I didn't say I was a "former instructor". I told the truth, after having cartilage removed from my left knee, two steel plates and 7 screws put in my right lower leg bones to hold stuff together, some back problems, a thing the docs call "irritable bowl syndrome" because they can't figure out what causes it or how to fix it that results in me getting up from 1 to 3 times a night to take a gassy, loose bowel dump and keeps me pretty much tired and wore out all day (on a good day I might only hit the bowl 5 times, a bad day can be 8 or 9 times)I've decided to stay at home on weekends.
When I edit a post I'll say what I edited and why, unlike one guy in the rifle thread that first agreed with my post and said he wouldn't post in that thread about Appleseed anymore but then came back and deleted all that just to go back to whining about how his age and physical condition kept him from doing what everyone else is doing. You're old and can't do the things you used to do? Join the crowd. It sure beats the alternative doesn't it?
You don't know how thankful I am that that irritable bowl syndrome stuff wakes me up in time to get to the bowl at night. Waking up beats the alternatives.
Think there's a lot of folks around here (and everywhere else) that are involved in Appleseed? This time you're right. When I started there were about 25 or 30 instructors (about 3 years ago). Today I hear there's something like 600 instructors and instructor's in training.
One rifle, expensive and difficult to set up? I had a drill sgt. once that explained what the word "assume" means. If you've been there then you already know. That was always one of the things I liked about Appleseeds, all the different rifles. FALs, SKSs, M1 carbines, M1 Garands, M1A's, AR15's, 10/22's, British Enfields, 03A3's, H&Ks/Cetmes, various bolt action hunting/varmint rifles, Marlin/Remington/Glenfield semi-auto .22s, even an occasional bolt action .22, and others I can't remember. Rifles, lots of rifles and lots of folks shooting them.
Appleseed doesn't recommend spending lots of money on your LTR. They recommend putting good sights on it (sights that mimic the military rifle sight picture - there are good reasons for this besides being a military sight picture), putting a 1&1/4" sling/swivels on it (really helps you build steady shooting positions), and 3 or 4 ten round magazines - then they recommend you spend any extra money on ammo to practice with.
Why do they recommend LTR's? Because they are cheaper to buy, cheaper to shoot and cheaper to load out to get someone else started shooting.
Look past your nose at what is being accomplished. You'll be happier if you stop wasting time holding a grudge and trying to convince everyone else to join the pity party.
I didn't come here to promote Appleseed, but my experience and the experience of my youngest son says it works so I'll give my opinion when I think it will help...about marksmanship, training, rifles, or ammo. While I'm old(er), stubborn and opionated, too, I'll try to stick with helping others when I can.
Now, I'll get back to enjoying reading what other folks here are posting about, like that pretty 03A4 sniper rifle.
One of the things you (should have) read and agreed to when joining here was to try to keep topics on track.
Now to some of the comments on the Appleseed rifle thread (which I didn't respond to there because that threads for questions/comments about Appleseed rifles, or so I thought when I read the original post)
You think Fred needs someone to stick up for him? You really don't know Fred. You think I'm here to stick up for Fred? You don't know me. You don't like Fred? I don't care. I don't have much use for him either, so what. What has that got to do with helping a guy that's asking questions about his rifle set up?
I didn't say I was a "former instructor". I told the truth, after having cartilage removed from my left knee, two steel plates and 7 screws put in my right lower leg bones to hold stuff together, some back problems, a thing the docs call "irritable bowl syndrome" because they can't figure out what causes it or how to fix it that results in me getting up from 1 to 3 times a night to take a gassy, loose bowel dump and keeps me pretty much tired and wore out all day (on a good day I might only hit the bowl 5 times, a bad day can be 8 or 9 times)I've decided to stay at home on weekends.
When I edit a post I'll say what I edited and why, unlike one guy in the rifle thread that first agreed with my post and said he wouldn't post in that thread about Appleseed anymore but then came back and deleted all that just to go back to whining about how his age and physical condition kept him from doing what everyone else is doing. You're old and can't do the things you used to do? Join the crowd. It sure beats the alternative doesn't it?
You don't know how thankful I am that that irritable bowl syndrome stuff wakes me up in time to get to the bowl at night. Waking up beats the alternatives.
Think there's a lot of folks around here (and everywhere else) that are involved in Appleseed? This time you're right. When I started there were about 25 or 30 instructors (about 3 years ago). Today I hear there's something like 600 instructors and instructor's in training.
One rifle, expensive and difficult to set up? I had a drill sgt. once that explained what the word "assume" means. If you've been there then you already know. That was always one of the things I liked about Appleseeds, all the different rifles. FALs, SKSs, M1 carbines, M1 Garands, M1A's, AR15's, 10/22's, British Enfields, 03A3's, H&Ks/Cetmes, various bolt action hunting/varmint rifles, Marlin/Remington/Glenfield semi-auto .22s, even an occasional bolt action .22, and others I can't remember. Rifles, lots of rifles and lots of folks shooting them.
Appleseed doesn't recommend spending lots of money on your LTR. They recommend putting good sights on it (sights that mimic the military rifle sight picture - there are good reasons for this besides being a military sight picture), putting a 1&1/4" sling/swivels on it (really helps you build steady shooting positions), and 3 or 4 ten round magazines - then they recommend you spend any extra money on ammo to practice with.
Why do they recommend LTR's? Because they are cheaper to buy, cheaper to shoot and cheaper to load out to get someone else started shooting.
Look past your nose at what is being accomplished. You'll be happier if you stop wasting time holding a grudge and trying to convince everyone else to join the pity party.
I didn't come here to promote Appleseed, but my experience and the experience of my youngest son says it works so I'll give my opinion when I think it will help...about marksmanship, training, rifles, or ammo. While I'm old(er), stubborn and opionated, too, I'll try to stick with helping others when I can.
Now, I'll get back to enjoying reading what other folks here are posting about, like that pretty 03A4 sniper rifle.
