Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

[knockdown]

I'm looking for advice on how to proceed with this issue. I purchased a Remington 700 5R Milspec chambered in .308 to be used for ranges where the AR platform leaves off.

I mounted a Badger Ordnance 20 moa rail, M40 ring set and Zeiss glass. Visually I noticed the scope seem to "point" a little to the right. Then, when trying to zero the rifle I used up my windage trying to get it on paper.

Took off the scope and rings and placed a straight piece of round rod stock in the "channel" of the Badger rail, and sure enough, the rod is pointing far right of the line of bore.

The holes seem to be drilled / tapped off center in the receiver.

My question is Should I try to have this "fixed" by Remington? Or should I simply save myself the trouble and get something entirely different. Remington QC has me in doubt at this point. I paid $1100 + tax for this rifle.

What would be the "fix" for this problem even if I spend the time and money to send it back to Remington? Some locals said to shim it, or install a windage adjustable mount. This really does not sound acceptable.

Any feedback or advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[ARsR4ME]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

Would love to see a pic of this.

 

[Shortdraw]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

Have reciever drilled for larger mounting screws, preferably straight. Too bad, these are great rifles and bad to hear one got past QC. You could deal with Remington directly, they likely will take care of it. Where did you purchase it? Maybe you could exchange it for another one.

 

[RADcustom]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

pwc001 had the same problem with his. Call Remington and get the ball rolling. Send it back. They will make it right, it just takes a while.

 

[knockdown]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nut job</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would love to see a pic of this. </div></div>

I have already removed the Badger rail, but I could snap a pic of the top of the receiver, if you'd like.

I have also tried aligning an aluminum straight edge, flush against the filler/dummy screws installed on the receiver. It also illustrates the off center situation I'm describing.

 

[fdkay]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

Have remington fix it.

If you drill larger holes, you will only have bigger holes that are not lined up.

Two other options exist, a base that allows you to adjust for windage or Burris Zee rings with canted inserts, rotate the insert 90 degrees to counter the misalignment, you should be able to get close.

But really, have Remington fix it. They will start to address the issues if they begin losing profits due to bad QC.

 

[knockdown]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have remington fix it.

If you drill larger holes, you will only have bigger holes that are not lined up.

Two other options exist, a base that allows you to adjust for windage or Burris Zee rings with canted inserts, rotate the insert 90 degrees to counter the misalignment, you should be able to get close.

But really, have Remington fix it. They will start to address the issues if they begin losing profits due to bad QC. </div></div>

Do you think Remington will do the re-drill method or would they install my barrel on a new receiver ?

I've heard stories of these off-center drill/tapped receivers where remington just sends them right back saying they're not really off by that much ? I mean is there an "acceptable" margin of error on something like this ?

 

[RADcustom]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have remington fix it.

If you drill larger holes, you will only have bigger holes that are not lined up.

Two other options exist, a base that allows you to adjust for windage or Burris Zee rings with canted inserts, rotate the insert 90 degrees to counter the misalignment, you should be able to get close.

But really, have Remington fix it. They will start to address the issues if they begin losing profits due to bad QC. </div></div>

Do you think Remington will do the re-drill method or would they install my barrel on a new receiver ?

I've heard stories of these off-center drill/tapped receivers where remington just sends them right back saying they're not really off by that much ? I mean is there an "acceptable" margin of error on something like this ? </div></div>

It is likely Remington will send you a new rifle with a different serial number. If they send it back crooked, I would be surprised and very pissed, but that is a different situation. Send it off first then deal with what comes back.

 

[fatdaddy1]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

As mentioned tslk to Remington First..I am betting they will replace the rifle...after they inspect yours..their tech line should tell you how to proceed.

 

[CK_32]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

Yea i've heard of 700's having this problem.. Readon I basically molested my 700 before buying it to make sure I didnt end up with one of these. Its like a car you cant test drive it before you buy it but those shady f'ers will sell you anything. One of the first things I looked for was hole alignment and how smooth my bolt was.

Also it helps taking most rifles from the last gun holder. Usually meant the guy went and picked that one up less when miss lilly or mr jonny retard decides to pretend he wants that rifle just to hold it up and dry fire it like he knows what hes doing.

I would suggest calling remington.. I would guess your going to get a oh well sorry we cant do anything about it.. And see if your local smith can fix it. If not sell it and do it again. But be sure to tell you buyer the holes are a little of and dont be a skeeze bag and rip some poor guy off. At least let them know whats up with it. And go out and buy another just inspect the hell out of this one like you should have the first time.

Never trust a gun salesmen. Half the time they dont even know what gun they just picked up. Just this is the top of the line. this is the one for you..

 

[Hateca]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

9 out of 10 times this has nothing to do with the scope base holes. It has everything to do with the barrel and how its bore straightened at the factory and how it's installed on the receiver. Meaning where TDC ended up in relationship to the receiver.

Most of the time what you are seeing with the base is an illusion between the receiver, barrel, and stock. Unless you have the ability to measure everything involved send it back to Remington.

 

[knockdown]

Re: Rem 700 5R Milspec Problem

I appreciate the info. I'll probably end up sending it back to Remington, although I'm having doubts on the outcome.

Thanks again!