Re: Vortex Viper PST FFP shippment
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Oddball-Six</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Holy hell, people, ease up.
jrob300, you seem to have a hard on for vortex. If you need to buy another optic, go buy another optic. Its precisely because of shit-ass speculative threads where people who dont have a clear picture of what is going on slam a company all to hell because they arent releasing every little detail and a fully detailed schedule of release dates.
You claim to be an engineer. Even you have admitted in this thread that you cant win.
So why do you expect Vortex to dance to your personal tune if they know they cant win doing that either?
The responsible thing here is what they have done. "Damn, sorry, yeah these things have an issue." Note that its a feature issue. They listened to thier community and in the first couple days of feedback recognized that thier end users wanted something changed. It passed QC because it wasn't "broken" - it just wasnt as stiff as we demanded.
They took it in the shorts on giving up revenue moments away from being realized, told the customers who already have hardware that they will get the fixes for free per the lifetime warranty, and stopped shipping to make sure that when product goes out, it meets the high standards we demand.
Could they be out there and at least tell us a target date? Sure. But they have already done that. The answer was "When its fixed." and I am sorry its not specific enough for you.
Ive seen people here bitching that the original ballpark date was may and they didnt go out until June/July. Remember that the hard date then was "when its ready".
If they came out here and said august and took an extra week or two to make sure the updated product was right, we would be doing the same thing a month from now screaming bloody murder because they didnt make august. Thats what they are trying to avoid. Over-critical super-hyped hardcore fanboy threads whining because vortex isnt doing things the way they think it should be done.
I have a pre-order. I placed it months ago. I am not cancelling it. When I placed it, Vortex's hard commitment date was "when it is done".
We knew what we were getting ourselves into. If you are truly an engineer, you probably should have anticipated it, too. If you have hard commitments that you need an optic for, then cancel the sale, get another product, and then see how things turn out in a few months. But stop railing on about vortex this and vortex that. (I guarantee you they are doing the best they can (this is each of their living and overall profitability on the line after all) and its few manufacturers at all who engage with the community like these guys do.
Its threads like this one which is why the rest don't. Dealing with all the whiny arrogant crap gets grating after a while and becomes potentially dangerous to your brand if your people ever lose their temper in public. </div></div>
I was going to say that same thing as you, only less eloquently, and likely completely different in every way
. I'm waiting a while to order my Vortex, by a while I mean a month or two, maybe three, want to see a few more get out there, and perhaps if any other issues arise, give Vortex a chance to update the model and get new ones out there. I have a WOTAC on my .22, good scope, i'm happy with it, but not terribly long after I got mine, they had a update, and it had some features that I want, I won't make the same mistake again. I'm patient, the Mk4 I have now will serve me well enough until it's time to replace it.
Branden