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Retired CA LEOs want to keep rifles

Foul Mike

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I read in Gun Digest magazine dated 27 Feb. 12 on page 11.
For around a decade, Cal. let their LEOs buy their own assault weapons for use at work. Let them carry them and have them available for use if the situation arose.
Now when they retire, they have to turn those weapons in as Cal. law doesn't allow the personal ownership of such weapons by civilians
What a bin of shit.
Do they pay those officers for those rifles? or is it just gimme that gun?
I know Cal. is kind of strange, but this seems unreasonable to me.
If these officers bought and paid for these rifle and were allowed to carry them in the line of duty, why should they not be allowed to take them home when their career ends?
Maybe they signed some kind of waiver or something but this just doesn't seem right to me.
Any thoughts?
Regards, FM
 
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/enforce unconstitutional laws as a professional
/cry when they are enforced on you
/justice
ahh to be an LEO in California.
It is a total crock of shit, for everyone. Maybe while they were active in the LE community they should have pushed for laws that didn't restrict the private ownership of firearms they privately owned and wanted to continue to own. Isn't equality a bitch?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Grimm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">/enforce unconstitutional laws as a professional
/cry when they are enforced on you
/justice
ahh to be an LEO in California.
It is a total crock of shit, for everyone. Maybe while they were active in the LE community they should have pushed for laws that didn't restrict the private ownership of firearms they privately owned and wanted to continue to own. Isn't equality a bitch? </div></div>

Agreed. I feel no pity for them, as they are the ones who supported the laws.
 
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+1 on the above comments. Fuck them. Let them experience first hand what it's like to be on the other side of the govt. One question though is why do they have to turn them in? Can't they just make them CA legal?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Grimm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">/enforce unconstitutional laws as a professional
/cry when they are enforced on you
/justice
ahh to be an LEO in California.
It is a total crock of shit, for everyone. Maybe while they were active in the LE community they should have pushed for laws that didn't restrict the private ownership of firearms they privately owned and wanted to continue to own. Isn't equality a bitch?</div></div>

+1
 
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HHAHA. I bet they get compensated just like all of the legal owners of "AW" got compensated when they were banned......

Give them two weeks grace period to turn them in or face the consequences of being in possession of an illegal rifle.

I don't even see why they want them. Don't they feel like their brothers in arms can keep them safe? Not much of a vote of confidence in their co-workers.

What is good for the goose...

http://www.times-standard.com/statenews/ci_19602014
 
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totally agreeded! california= land of the fruit and nutcases. and my cousin is a c.h.p too bad for him...
 
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When I was on our local SoCal department, I had to 1) qualify with an approved AR and 2) submit a department letter head with an accompanying waiver form through our Gun Desk. From what I was told, the waiver was filled with the state and allowed the weapon to be recognized as a pre-ban AR and thus he or she was allowed to own it outright. I could have misunderstood but I don't know of any fellow LE turnning in their purchased AR's prior to retiring. Just my .02

V/R
Jason
 
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+1 - One of the main reasons I left Calif. After I got my retirement from LASD I left as soon as I could..TN a much better state for "assault weapons".
 
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Anchorage is a bit different. They bought and issued me a Model 28 Smith Service Revolver, then when I retired instead of letting me buy the revolver, they gave it to me....no cost.

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On some of the smaller depts here, Riverside, San bernadino, the LEOs can keep the rifle once the armorer has put a cal legal mag release on it, just like the other sheeple.
But they do have to turn in all the high cap mags.
Its a joke, as anyone knows you can purchase highcaps and have them mailed to you in california simply by having the magazine taken apart by seller before mailing, No laws or broken during this transaction. Possession is another topic.
LAPD, SDPD and some of the larger depts that issue these weapons, the subject does not come up because the weapon was always "issued" by said Dept.

California, used to be such a great state.
I always feel like Steve Mcqueen at the ending of sand pebbles.
"what happened, what the hell happened?" to California?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKYinlLiZ0
 
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The Sheeple voted for the "Socialist" I mean Democratic Peoples Party to take care of them from the Evil people with black rifles. Every cop I know carries his weapon to protect HIS/HER butt, if it protects yours it's only a secondary action. One day the sheep may figure it out. Without the 2nd ammendment you must have a police state. But I digress.
 
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Calif is a great and beautiful state but it's slipped into the abyss of a quasi Socialist state. The sheeple continually vote in the politicians that support the Socialist agenda so they have gained so much control they will never revert back to the Center, let alone the Right. The people and businesses who care, cannot change it, so they have realize they are fighting a battle that cannot be won and leave for greener pastures. One day the people of Calif may realize what's been created but by then it will be too late. I know that this is over simplified.....End Rant...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

California, used to be such a great state.
I always feel like Steve Mcqueen at the ending of sand pebbles.
"what happened, what the hell happened?" to California?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKYinlLiZ0 </div></div>

+1000
 
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Hahaha, between the irony of the situation and Cali's cretinous and absurd gun laws these guys don't have a leg to stand on.

Let that be a lesson to cops not only in CA but nationwide. Never come out of pocket for gear that should be issued to you. If the JOB wants you to have it then the JOB can buy it for you. You never hear of firemen buying their own Hurst equipment or hose lines. This shouldn't be any different.
 
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the gun laws in CA started with Reagan... then the rest of the assholes were like, "hey, you can DO that...? Cool..."

But hey... he was great at giving speeches...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hahaha, between the irony of the situation and Cali's cretinous and absurd gun laws these guys don't have a leg to stand on.

Let that be a lesson to cops not only in CA but nationwide. Never come out of pocket for gear that should be issued to you. If the JOB wants you to have it then the JOB can buy it for you. You never hear of firemen buying their own Hurst equipment or hose lines. This shouldn't be any different. </div></div>

Come on now Slap, you ought to know better than most that everybody loves firemen. Firemen don't buy their own gear because they don't have to.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Come on now Slap, you ought to know better than most that everybody loves firemen. Firemen don't buy their own gear because they don't have to.
wink.gif


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You ain't kidding bro! I took the wrong test lol
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phylodog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Come on now Slap, you ought to know better than most that everybody loves firemen. Firemen don't buy their own gear because they don't have to.
wink.gif


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You ain't kidding bro! I took the wrong test lol </div></div>

I took the test, scored pretty well actually. When I got to the interview they asked me why I wanted to be a firefighter. I told them I was actually hoping to become a firetruck, strangely I never got a call back.
 
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Thanks for your input, it gave me other thoughts to think about.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
I was really just kind of wondering about how I would feel if I bought something and used it on the job for years and then have it taken from me. I would be red assed.
I would bet they are paid for the rifles and/or sell them to younger LEOs.
Again, thank you for your thoughts and I agree that if it isn't good enough for all and the people involved supported those laws, FUKM.
Regards, FM
 
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I doubt they paid full price for them to begin with.....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I read in Gun Digest magazine dated 27 Feb. 12 on page 11.
For around a decade, Cal. let their LEOs buy their own assault weapons for use at work. Let them carry them and have them available for use if the situation arose.
Now when they retire, they have to turn those weapons in as Cal. law doesn't allow the personal ownership of such weapons by civilians
What a bin of shit.
Do they pay those officers for those rifles? or is it just gimme that gun?
I know Cal. is kind of strange, but this seems unreasonable to me.
If these officers bought and paid for these rifle and were allowed to carry them in the line of duty, why should they not be allowed to take them home when their career ends?
Maybe they signed some kind of waiver or something but this just doesn't seem right to me.
Any thoughts?
Regards, FM
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Retire and move out of state (not to Texas, we got enough liberals here) then take your rifle with you. The cost of living change vs. you pension vs. the price of a new home would be a nice relief.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for your input, it gave me other thoughts to think about.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
I was really just kind of wondering about how I would feel if I bought something and used it on the job for years and then have it taken from me. I would be red assed.
I would bet they are paid for the rifles and/or sell them to younger LEOs.
Again, thank you for your thoughts and I agree that if it isn't good enough for all and the people involved supported those laws, FUKM.
Regards, FM</div></div>

Amen, Amen, and AMEN!!!!
 
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Ca has this fucked up aw deal because police and their unions supported it, because they were gonna be able to have aws. Well tables have turned, now they have to turn them in, I feel zero pity for them. Next time maybe they will do what's right, not what's best for them alone. Welcome to the serf class.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Grimm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">/enforce unconstitutional laws as a professional
/cry when they are enforced on you
/justice
ahh to be an LEO in California.
It is a total crock of shit, for everyone. Maybe while they were active in the LE community they should have pushed for laws that didn't restrict the private ownership of firearms they privately owned and wanted to continue to own. Isn't equality a bitch? </div></div>

what he said ^
 
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Illustrates there is still a market for pre-ban weapons.

I have some 200+ 30-round magazines. If I had them in Cali
each mag carries a single count felony.

Now...
If I have a pre-ban lower and have added any and all spooky
and "evil" accessories then I'm good to go. No problem.
All that's required is that I retro-fit the mag release with
the infamous "bullet-button". Makes no sense...

I have said it once, I've said it a million times that I do not
think there is ANYTHING that the government LEO should possess
that regular citizens should not. They're getting their just desserts.
Welcome to being Joe average citizen again.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ca has this fucked up aw deal because police and their unions supported it, because they were gonna be able to have aws. Well tables have turned, now they have to turn them in, I feel zero pity for them. Next time maybe they will do what's right, not what's best for them alone. Welcome to the serf class. </div></div>

Which is why govt unions have destroyed California and unless someone wakes up and tells them once and for all;
NO LIFETIME BENEFITS PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS.
Fund your own fucking retirement.
 
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What next, the guys from vice want to be able to buy an hour with their dealer? Maybe get a blumpkin while snorting coke 2 minutes after retirement?

Are they above the law? No? OK then. Fuck em.

In the words of Nelson from the Simpsons:

"HA! HA!"
 
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A registered assault weapon will always remain an assault weapon even if you convert it to "Kalifornia spec rifle"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AK and AR-15 Series Weapons (Kasler v. Lockyer)
This California Supreme Court decision took effect on August 16, 2000. Under this decision, any firearm of
minor variation of the AK or AR-15 type (i.e., series weapon), regardless of the manufacturer, is a Category 2
(Kasler v. Lockyer) assault weapon under the original Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989.
All AK and AR-15 series weapons had to be possessed before August 16, 2000 and must have been
registered on or before January 23, 2001. The Department of Justice is required to identify these series
weapons and includes in this publication a listing of identified AK and AR-15 series weapons.
It is important to note that removal of a firearm’s characteristics does not affect its status as a Category
2 assault weapon. A Category 2 assault weapon is still an assault weapon even if it has no Category 3
(SB 23 - generic characteristics) features.
Category 2 assault weapons may be of any caliber, including .22 caliber rimfire. </div></div>

CalDOJ website
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">EXCERPTS FROM THE 2000 FEDERAL FIREARMS REGULATIONS REFERENCE GUIDE
(Questions and Answers Section)
(O8) May law enforcement officers purchase and possess semiautomatic assault weapons and high capacity
ammunition feeding devices?
Yes. The law provides exceptions for law enforcement officers purchasing assault weapons and magazines for
official use. However, assault weapons may not be lawfully distributed to, or received or possessed by, an officer having
been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. A licensee may lawfully transfer these items to a law
enforcement officer and the officer may lawfully receive and possess them if: (1) the officer is a "peace officer" having the
authority to arrest persons for violations of the law and to obtain and execute search warrants; (2) the officer is employed by
a government agency; and (3) in the case of a semiautomatic assault weapon, the officer has not been convicted of a
misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.
(O9) May law enforcement officers keep their semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding
devices when they retire or leave their employment with a law enforcement agency?
No. They may not lawfully keep semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices
that they purchased or acquired as their own property. However, the law provides an exception for items that belong to a
law enforcement agency and are transferred by the agency to an officer upon the officer’s retirement from, or termination of
his or her employment with, the agency. Neither this exception nor the exception for official use permits officers to retain
their own weapons or feeding devices after retiring or leaving the agency or to acquire additional items. Officers who retire
or leave their employment with a law enforcement agency should transfer assault weapons and large capacity ammunition
feeding devices that are their own property to a Federal firearms licensee or another qualified officer. [18 U.S.C. 922(v)(4), </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PEACE OFFICER EXEMPTION EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2002
Effective January 1, 2002, a peace officer member of a police department, sheriffs’ office, or other law enforcement
agency specified in Penal Code section 12280(f) who possesses or receives an assault weapon prior to
January 1, 2002, may, with the authorization of his or her agency head, retain and personally possess that
firearm provided he or she registers it as an assault weapon with the Department of Justice on or before April 1,
2002. Any such-identified peace officer may also, with the authorization of his or her agency head, purchase or
receive an assault weapon on or after January 1, 2002, provided he or she registers it as an assault weapon with
the Department of Justice within 90 days of receipt. Agency authorization must be in the form of verifiable
written certification from the head of the agency identifying the recipient or possesor of the assault weapon as a
peace officer and authorizing him or her to receive or possess the specific assault weapon. The peace officer
must include a copy of this authorization with the assault weapon registration. Assault weapon registration
forms may be obtained from the Department of Justice by calling (916) 227-3694 </div></div>

Kalifornia AW "Book"
http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/awguide.pdf?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What next, the guys from vice want to be able to buy an hour with their dealer? Maybe get a blumpkin while snorting coke 2 minutes after retirement?

Are they above the law? No? OK then. Fuck em.

In the words of Nelson from the Simpsons:

"HA! HA!" </div></div>

Hell yea, fuck them, fuck the citizens, fuck the politicians and fuck California!

Hopefully the cops see the writing on the wall and from here on out don't spend a dime of their own money. Like I said before, if the job wants you to have it, let the job buy it for you.

The ones that currently have them, should get rid of them. Let the chips fall where they may. If the public can't have the shit, then no one should be privy to it even if it is a tool of the trade. Because we all know that it was the average citizen that was running toward the sound of automatic gunfire in order to engage the two Bank Of America stickup men, while the LAPD hid in their station houses and Dunkin Donuts.
 
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Is that true in Ca. you have to pay your own way through the police academy?
 
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No sympathy for them. Welcome to the world the rest of the state citizens live in.

Reminds me of back when CCW permits in MI were controlled at the county level. You had counties where anyone without a felony or restraining order was issues no problem, then others (Washtenaw comes to mind) where the liberal freaks were in control and a retiring sheriff was denied (everybody was denied). Welcome to the other side of the badge, buddy. How's it feel to be on the receiving end of what you were enforcing...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sharfshutze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that true in Ca. you have to pay your own way through the police academy? </div></div>. Not always, most departments will sponsor recruits to attend an academy. It is however unique in many Ca municipalities that citizens can attend the police academy along side department sponsored recruits. Many departments will hire the civilian recruits " open enrolees" upon their graduation from the POST certified academy. I attended an academy right out of the Corps as an "Open enrolees". I moved out of state and later moved back an attended the academy his time as a sponsored recruit.
 
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You have to ask - would that officer bust ME if I had an AR just like that?

yes? - TURN IT IN.
 
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Turn in your tools and become one of the sheep.
They enforced these laws upon the subjects for all their years on the job. Time to retire and take it easy? Good! Live the same as you forced others to live. Why should they have any rights I would not have? Crack head kicking down your door? Dial 911 and hang loose brother! That is what you wanted the sheep to do. Why are you better than I? I served as a police officer in the military with a security clearance that most I know out here would never pass.
That dont buy me shit in a state like California.
I could have anything from my M9,and a 870 with me all day.
To a mark 19 or a M2 on the top of the truck and a team inside with enough guns and ammo to break a lot of things.
Still Why should they be better than me?
I have a Honorable discharge. What is the Difference?
Sorry I hate to hear about gun grabbers getting pissed when the law dont work their way. Cant sleep and all.
 
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Yes, yes, yes !!!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old95b10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Turn in your tools and become one of the sheep.
They enforced these laws upon the subjects for all their years on the job. Time to retire and take it easy? Good! Live the same as you forced others to live. Why should they have any rights I would not have? Crack head kicking down your door? Dial 911 and hang loose brother! That is what you wanted the sheep to do. Why are you better than I? I served as a police officer in the military with a security clearance that most I know out here would never pass.
That dont buy me shit in a state like California.
I could have anything from my M9,and a 870 with me all day.
To a mark 19 or a M2 on the top of the truck and a team inside with enough guns and ammo to break a lot of things.
Still Why should they be better than me?
I have a Honorable discharge. What is the Difference?
Sorry I hate to hear about gun grabbers getting pissed when the law dont work their way. Cant sleep and all.
</div></div>
 
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Why should cops - retired or otherwise - be exempt from the laws that already restrict civilians?

Sorry, my vote is one of "no sympathy".
 
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First off, the free people of the then Northern California did NOT vote, nor did anyone else vote for this assinine ban in California. It was a knee jerk reaction to a school shooting and only politicians voted for it sans any public hearings or other venues for the citizenry to stop it.
Secondly, when it was enacted, many law enforcement agencies were tasked to hand out the forms to register the thousands of so called 'assault rifles'(these have no select fire, nor full auto capability and do not fill the requirement of an assault rifle). When each station ran out of the CADOJ papers, the simply copied the last few. These were then handed out to the thousands of people and many thousands of so called assault rifles were registered on bad paper which was "thrown away" at the CADOJ(this was verified by the CADOJ rep when I called to ask for my signed copy).
With that said, there are thousands of shoulder fired, air cooled, box magazine fed rifles in Northern California, and probably throughout the state that are not registered because the papers were tossed out, or they were improperly registered through a local LEO office.
Anyone who subscribes to anything less than the Second Amendment back home and supports the ban in their job, or vocally deserves what they get in return. The millions of transplanted liberals can kiss my ass, and the enema nozzles who ruined my state can kiss it too. I still swear that the day will come when I return home to claim what is rightfully mine. Yes, there will be speech that may offend some. Yes, rifles and pistols will be readied. Yes, there may be a firefight, but when I have to return home to bury my Pop, and take care of business, I am taking my stuff. If it means hell to pay or hell to give, hell will be given or received. No quarter will be asked for, and none granted.
Laws that are repugnant to the Constitution are void and invalid. No state may abridge the rights of men believed to be God given by either the Bill of Rights or the Constitution, and as such affirmed by our forefathers.
 
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You nailed it...there are thousands of AW in Calif that are not registered and I would say mostly owned by people who believe in the Bill of Rights especially the 2nd amendment. Based on the current laws they are criminals for owning unregistered AW's, high cap mags etc.

So what's the options? Retired LEO must turn in their AW's or sell them out of state or move out of state and keep them.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First off, the free people of the then Northern California did NOT vote, nor did anyone else vote for this assinine ban in California. It was a knee jerk reaction to a school shooting and only politicians voted for it sans any public hearings or other venues for the citizenry to stop it.
Secondly, when it was enacted, many law enforcement agencies were tasked to hand out the forms to register the thousands of so called 'assault rifles'(these have no select fire, nor full auto capability and do not fill the requirement of an assault rifle). When each station ran out of the CADOJ papers, the simply copied the last few. These were then handed out to the thousands of people and many thousands of so called assault rifles were registered on bad paper which was "thrown away" at the CADOJ(this was verified by the CADOJ rep when I called to ask for my signed copy).
With that said, there are thousands of shoulder fired, air cooled, box magazine fed rifles in Northern California, and probably throughout the state that are not registered because the papers were tossed out, or they were improperly registered through a local LEO office.
Anyone who subscribes to anything less than the Second Amendment back home and supports the ban in their job, or vocally deserves what they get in return. The millions of transplanted liberals can kiss my ass, and the enema nozzles who ruined my state can kiss it too. I still swear that the day will come when I return home to claim what is rightfully mine. Yes, there will be speech that may offend some. Yes, rifles and pistols will be readied. Yes, there may be a firefight, but when I have to return home to bury my Pop, and take care of business, I am taking my stuff. If it means hell to pay or hell to give, hell will be given or received. No quarter will be asked for, and none granted.
Laws that are repugnant to the Constitution are void and invalid. No state may abridge the rights of men believed to be God given by either the Bill of Rights or the Constitution, and as such affirmed by our forefathers. </div></div>
 
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Get em Switchblade. When you come back to this god forsaken shithole, let me know, I want to buy you a drink and smoke a good cigar!

I am on calguns too, and this came up over there a couple weeks ago, a lot of them were crying how it was wrong they had to turn them in because they had been told they could keep them. A couple of us said pretty much fuck them, make them live under the same laws afforded us, and suddenly a person with that mentality is some vehement anti gun liberal, gun grabber.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jsimmons</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why should cops - retired or otherwise - be exempt from the laws that already restrict civilians?

Sorry, my vote is one of "no sympathy". </div></div>

I feel sort of the same. Cops should abide by the same laws enforced upon civilians. Retired cops are allowed to carry concealed in more places than regular civilians. They should be bound by the laws they enforce, and have to abide by the concealed carry permit laws in most states. My life and my families is worth as much to protect than a Cops life. Law enforcement should push the states they represent to abide by the second amendment, especially the (shal not be infringed) part. The state is telling us we are not allowed to protect are selves, but yet they provide little protection, and there is no way the government can protect everybody. I'm all for equality, so let retired LE be equal to everyone else. You don't hear us prior military guy's whining because we can't take our 3 round burst M4's or M16's home with us, so live buy the law or support change and push government to abide by the constitution.
 
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They made there bed, now sleep in it. Maybe next time y'all open your mouth about gun laws you will think about the common man. MM
 
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There are some good things about California... US Optics... Coronado... General Patton... lol
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are some good things about California... US Optics... Coronado... General Patton... lol </div></div>

+1 for Coronado!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are some good things about California... US Optics... Coronado... General Patton... lol </div></div>

Don't forget Alpha industries if you like their magazines...

I'm not going to lie, I love California, I don't want to leave this state but these gun laws are ridiculous. I'm not that into "assault" weapons, I love bolt actions and that's all I own, but I believe these restrictions are absolute shit. I know that when these laws were passed, many of the police agencies down here in and around San Diego and Los Angeles supported them. They are getting exactly what they deserve now, I have no sympathy for them, they helped pass the laws now the dumbasses have to deal with them.
 
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? guess the cops think they're politicians and the laws don't apply to them. ! Oh yah - F*CK YOU TO POLITICIANS
 
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The biggest reason I didn't move back home is the very short apron strings...Panty 6 couldn't get too far from NY because No1 is there seeking his fortune. My hometown in SoCo has lost it's appeal due to the fact that all the libs from SF came in with their money and bought out our green spaces on the hills to build their palaces with which to look down their noses upon the rest. The cost of living is astronomical, taxes are stupid high, and you can't own a car or bike or gun that makes the weak who seemed to have inherated that part of earth from crying about some CO2 or other kind of BS.
I must say, TN is pretty darn nice, low cost of lving, low taxes, and I can own pretty much whatever I want. No real complaints. Right close to my friends in five different states, and Nor-Cal is not so far, but they can come out here since we have real fireworks to play with
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are some good things about California... US Optics... Coronado... General Patton... lol</div></div>
I guess I am doing good. Get to work on base in Coronado, and have a "registered" assault rifle. Made sure to keep all of my paperwork and make copies that I keep laminated and in the locked case. Still remember going down to the local P.D. and getting fingerprinted.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Grimm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">/enforce unconstitutional laws as a professional
/cry when they are enforced on you
/justice
ahh to be an LEO in California.
It is a total crock of shit, for everyone. Maybe while they were active in the LE community they should have pushed for laws that didn't restrict the private ownership of firearms they privately owned and wanted to continue to own. Isn't equality a bitch? </div></div>

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