I need a little advise. I have a savage 10fp in 308. Now this rifle has an internal magazine, I did not consider this when I bought the rifle. Looking to upgrade to an external mag. But have a question about rifling choices. Is the 5r rifling much more accurate than the standard rifling. My present savage will shoot much better than I am capable of shooting right now, I need more practice.
rifling question .308
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Ok I've done some research and answered my own question. Now all I have to do is decied if I want a new gun or just up grade mine with a different stock that will take an external magazine.
Ok I've done some research and answered my own question. Now all I have to do is decied if I want a new gun or just up grade mine with a different stock that will take an external magazine.
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Mrhog; Found out that the 5r rifling is 5 groves and lands and the lands are canted and opposite of the groves, keeping the bullet from being pinched so it maintains a better shap
Mrhog; Found out that the 5r rifling is 5 groves and lands and the lands are canted and opposite of the groves, keeping the bullet from being pinched so it maintains a better shap
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Factory Savage barrels,(Havent bought one in about 4 years) always shot well.
The problem I had is the bore was so rough it copper fouled really bad. This affected the accuracy.
Sharp Shooter Supply is the only compay I know of making detachable mags/bottom metal. And, I would not recomend them, they have very questionable customer service.
Factory Savage barrels,(Havent bought one in about 4 years) always shot well.
The problem I had is the bore was so rough it copper fouled really bad. This affected the accuracy.
Sharp Shooter Supply is the only compay I know of making detachable mags/bottom metal. And, I would not recomend them, they have very questionable customer service.
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My ~2002 10FP copper fouled a lot (was still accurate though) for the first 500-1000 rounds. It did finally quit though. Now I've got about 5k through it and still shoots great. It's still getting better, I think. That, or I have! I shot a ~3/8 MOA dot drill @ 200 yards with it yesterday.
My ~2002 10FP copper fouled a lot (was still accurate though) for the first 500-1000 rounds. It did finally quit though. Now I've got about 5k through it and still shoots great. It's still getting better, I think. That, or I have! I shot a ~3/8 MOA dot drill @ 200 yards with it yesterday.
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turbo54; Thanks for the info. Ive had plenty of sub moa groups at 100yds, and a few groups that if you take out the one flier sub .5 and .4 groups. I know the rifle will shoot better than I can at present, still need more practice.
turbo54; Thanks for the info. Ive had plenty of sub moa groups at 100yds, and a few groups that if you take out the one flier sub .5 and .4 groups. I know the rifle will shoot better than I can at present, still need more practice.
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Goodluck with the Savage I heave been wanting one for a while.
Everybody seems to like them.
Goodluck with the Savage I heave been wanting one for a while.
Everybody seems to like them.
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Just thought I'd give everyone a little more info on this gun. I'm using 175smk's over 44.5 grains of Varget. OAL is 2.8, muzzle velocity thanks to a kind gentleman at the manatee gun range is 2730 avg. this is on 3 shots so more testing is needed. Highest was 2755 and lowest was 2713. 24" barrel
Just thought I'd give everyone a little more info on this gun. I'm using 175smk's over 44.5 grains of Varget. OAL is 2.8, muzzle velocity thanks to a kind gentleman at the manatee gun range is 2730 avg. this is on 3 shots so more testing is needed. Highest was 2755 and lowest was 2713. 24" barrel
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hogrider2003flht</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just thought I'd give everyone a little more info on this gun. I'm using 175smk's over 44.5 grains of Varget. OAL is 2.8, muzzle velocity thanks to a kind gentleman at the manatee gun range is 2730 avg. this is on 3 shots so more testing is needed. Highest was 2755 and lowest was 2713. 24" barrel </div></div>
Nice velocity! I run mine on the ragged edge of pressure, which is 45.5 Varget/175smk @ 2800ish. Not exactly sure. My validated trajectory back-calculates to 2825, but my CED M2 chrony reads them at 2650ish. This load has been qualified by letting them soak in the sun on a bright 100° day for an hour before firing. I occasionally get a very light ejector mark. 45.75 yields a mark on pretty much every one.
I bring this up to solidify the point you really don't need a barrel upgrade. Savage barrels can shoot great, AND last - even with max loads.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hogrider2003flht</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just thought I'd give everyone a little more info on this gun. I'm using 175smk's over 44.5 grains of Varget. OAL is 2.8, muzzle velocity thanks to a kind gentleman at the manatee gun range is 2730 avg. this is on 3 shots so more testing is needed. Highest was 2755 and lowest was 2713. 24" barrel </div></div>
Nice velocity! I run mine on the ragged edge of pressure, which is 45.5 Varget/175smk @ 2800ish. Not exactly sure. My validated trajectory back-calculates to 2825, but my CED M2 chrony reads them at 2650ish. This load has been qualified by letting them soak in the sun on a bright 100° day for an hour before firing. I occasionally get a very light ejector mark. 45.75 yields a mark on pretty much every one.
I bring this up to solidify the point you really don't need a barrel upgrade. Savage barrels can shoot great, AND last - even with max loads.
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Turbo54; I settled on this load after I went to 45 grains of varget and blew out a primer, using FGMM brass. I also tried an OAL of 2.83 and the bullet got stuck in the lands and came out of the casing when I tried to eject it. Just lucky it only took a light tap to remove bullet, so I guess I'm right at max for OAL.
Turbo54; I settled on this load after I went to 45 grains of varget and blew out a primer, using FGMM brass. I also tried an OAL of 2.83 and the bullet got stuck in the lands and came out of the casing when I tried to eject it. Just lucky it only took a light tap to remove bullet, so I guess I'm right at max for OAL.
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