Re: S&B 5-25x56 pmII zero stop is 0.6 mils below zero?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know this has been mentioned before, but I'm curious if there is an explanation. I just got my new 5-25x56, and like I have read before, my "zero stop" doesn't really stop the elevation knob at zero, it stops it at -.6 mils...</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I follow you guys, I can see where dialing below zero could be a benefit, however, it also negates my perception of the benefit of a zero stop. I thought the whole point was to be able to dial back to zero without even looking. Can't really do that here, unles you dial back to zero, then up 6 clicks again.</div></div>
If you think about it, being able to dial below "0" makes since. If you are zeroed at 100 yards, but need to make a shot closer than that you have to hold under.
As long as you know your dope, if you have 0.5 MIL or so below "0" you have a choice between holding under or dialing down. I set both of my PMII 5-25Xs' to have .5 MIL of adjustment below my 100 yard zero.
<span style="font-weight: bold">EDIT:</span> <span style="font-style: italic">As a point of interest, both of my PMII 5-25Xs' had 0.6 MIL below indicated "0" when I received them (NIB).</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdwelch10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would want a zero stop to stop at zero lol </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rotortuner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I suprised that a scope that expensive doesnt stop exactly where you want it. When you set the NF zero stop up, you can have it wherever you want it, at zer, 2 clicks, 5 clicks, you name it it will do it.
CJG </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...My other question then- is there any way to "fix" this? </div></div>
Yes. Go sight-in your rifle, loosen the Elevation turret screws, pull the turret up above the "O"-ring, reposition the turret with the "0" aligned with the index arrow, then re-tighten the Elevation turret screws. Done.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah, I like the DT. Especially for the $500 "upgrade" cost.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's the replacement cost to swap out the current knobs and replace them with the MTC. Not an upgrade if buying the scope new. Just wanted to clarify that for others. </div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">To bm11:</span></span> As <span style="font-style: italic">Rob01</span> stated in his reply to you, the <span style="font-style: italic">$500 "upgrade" cost</span> you mentioned is the cost of swapping out non-MTC turrets for MTC turrets'. Also, S & B still offers the (original) non-MTC turret PMII 5-25X, and now offers an MTC-turret PMII 5-25X as well as a PMII 5-25X with both the LT (Locking Turret) and MTC (More Tacile Click).
And while you and others may know these next points, for clarification:
- All PMII 5-25Xs' are DT (Double Turn), whether they are in 0.1 MIL or 1/4 MOA adjustment increments. The PMII 5-25X doesn't come in a ST (Single Turn) because an ST turret cannot accomodate the full range of the 5-25X (27.3 MIL and 56 MOA respectively).
- All PMII 5-25Xs' are illuminated (LP) models (unless S & B produces or has produced special, non-illuminated units under contract).
- Several posters have stated that the MTC turrets aren't required, and that the MTC turrets make it difficult to dial to 0.1 MIL or 0.2 MIL. From my experience with Premier and S & B MTCs', what these posters mean is that it is difficult to dial to 0.1 MIL or 0.2 MIL <span style="font-style: italic">past each (full) MIL.</span> This is because the extra effort required to dial past the heavy detent at each MIL typically results in over-shooting the 0.1 MIL and 0.2 MIL settings, so a conscious and deliberate effort must be made to stop at those points.
Keith