Suppressors S&W M&P 9 compact?

[xdeano]

Hay guys just looking for some info from you guys that have fired this weapon, and use it as a daily CCW. I like the size, but would like some first hand feedback from those who are using them.

And could someone clue me in on what they mean by magazine safety, internal lock. They have 3 different configurations. No safeties, with thumb safety, or with all three. And the benifit or drawbacks of each.

Forgive my intelligence, i'm a rifle guy.

Thanks guys,

Deano

 

[Spazz.]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

I have a .40 compact, which is the same size as the 9 and the same options. I have one without magazine or thumb safety. Magazine safety means that the gun will not fire without the magazine in it. If you drop the mag, you can't pull the trigger. No safety means that it has no thumb safety and will fire with the magazine out. Thumb safety is just a 1911-style thumb safety. Flip it down and you can shoot.

All the M&Ps have a 2-part trigger, which acts as a safety. You have to have the entire trigger depressed for it to fire. It kind of has a little hinge in the center of the trigger, breaking it into an upper and a lower part. Basically, you can't slam it down on the ground and have the trigger pull back because it's locked out without the bottom half the trigger being pulled back.

In my experience, the M&P compact is a good gun. I haven't had any failures or hiccups in the near 2 years I've had mine. Every day carry, in the creek, sweating, dirty... It's a pretty solid little gun.

 

[metalmike]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

My good friend has one with a few thousand rounds down it and he lets me fire it every now and then. It's a really smooth gun. He had some lighter trigger work done to it and it's easy to follow through with more rounds. I believe he also had the feed ramp and barrel throat polished.

I know he didn't like the factory trigger on it and I've fired the .40 compact out of the box and can see what he means, but I wasn't complaining about the factory setup.

All in all, I'm not a 9mm fan but I really like my buddy's M&P compact. It's such an easy pistol to fire accurately. It's been his daily carry gun with no failures, with no thumb safety and it fires without the magazine present. That's what he recommends for a daily CCW.

Also, the strike on the primer must be violent in there because that and the .40 cal really puts a good gouge there. It seems like one of those guns that'll just do its best to shoot anything.

Hope that helps!

 

[Jim_D303]

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The magazine safety means the gun will not fire without a magazine in the gun. This makes dry fire practice (or competition where you have to dryfire at the end of a stage) a pain in the ass.

The internal lock is an optional locking mechanism that disables the gun from working until you unlock the mechanism with a small key (similar in size to a handcuff key).

The thumb safety is like on a 1911. Up for safe, down for off safe.

 

[xdeano]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

thanks guys for the explanations. After thinking about it a bit i figured out what the safties were throughout the day. Some morning i wake up and forget to tie my shoes, good thing they have zippers.

I like hearing that no one has had any problems with them at all.

I was kicking around the idea of the 357Sig round for this gun. I know that they cost more, but i know i can make them on my own. Anyone ever messed around with this option of the 357sig at all in this config? I think it would be a good in between round from the 9mm and 40cal.

thanks,
Deano

xdeano

 

[matt33]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

I've heard from people who own these that they are great. That said, my Dad bought a NIB SW M&Pc 9mm from Bass Pro Shops and it was a total POS. He could not fire more than 3 or 4 rounds without a stoppage (various FTF and FTE). Being that he is a pistol newbie, he asked me to help him. I attempted to fire the gun, but had the same results. I confirmed everything was installed correctly, it was cleaned and lubed, and premium ammo from several manufacturers was used. My Dad sent it back to S&W. They promptly returned it and said it runs 100%. We each tried again, neither of us could fire a complete magazine without a malfunction. We actually received a call from the president of S&W about this issue, but in the end he traded it toward a shotgun.

I'm sure many people have great luck with their M&Pc, but after this experience, I'll stick with Sig (although sadly their CEO is running them into the ground), H&K, or Glock.

 

[Silverbullet2]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

Matt33's experience is the exception and not the rule. We have several LE agencys around that have gone to the M&P, and some will grumble, but most will shoot it just fine. I have a 5" 9mm, and when I choose a plastic gun, it is it. I shoot it almost as well as my Sig. My best advice is to find an indoor range that you can rent one from. Shoot as many plastic guns as they have, and then make a choice. JPG

 

[Downzero]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

I love my M&P.

I owned two Sigs and I would rather have an M&P than any Sig.

 

[David Hineline]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

Unless you are an extremely talented reloader, you will not like reloading the 357 Sig very long.

 

[xdeano]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

it wouldn't be much different than loading any bottle necked rifle cartridge.

xdeano

 

[Spazz.]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

If you really want to do a .357 Sig, just get the .40 and buy an aftermarket .357 barrel. Quick barrel swap and you're done. The .40 and .357 mags are the same, and I think the recoil springs are the same, but don't take my word for it on that. Personally, the .40 or the 9mm work just fine for me; I have no use for .357 Sig. But if you want to run .357, I'd buy the .40 and get a .357 barrel with it. That way you have the option to run the .40 with factory ammo if you get tired of reloading the .357, or you can run the .357 if you feel like it.

 

[bigmerv]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

I have both the full size 9 and the 9 compact. Both have around 2000 rounds through them and both have the Apex DCAEK. I haven't had any issues with either of them. The compact is my carry gun the the full size is my night stand gun.

 

[NUTT]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigMerv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">both have the Apex DCAEK.</div></div>

Did you install the Apex kit yourself? If so, how difficult was it?

Any harder than installing an AR lower parts kit into a stripped receiver?

 

[Queequeg]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

Xdeano,

I have the M&P.40 compact and the full size .45. Both have neither the key lock, mag disconnector, nor thumb safety.

I carry my .40 more than any of my other pistols and have had no problems whatsoever in almost 4 years. It's smaller than my compact XD .40 and damn sure thinner than my G23. I think you'll be happy with yours if you make that choice.

 

[xdeano]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

I really appreciate all the responses. I've been looking into the 40 for the last few day. It is what i really wanted, but for some reason i didn't relize that the compact was made in the 40. Good thing, it's a win, win. As for the 357 barrel, that would be a nice swap out for about $160. The springs are interchangable with the 40. another win, win. Thanks guys.

Queequeg- how is recoil on the 40, is it pretty snapy or is it decent for a few rounds?

Bigmarv- what is this Apex DCEAK?

Thanks again,
Deano

 

[boltstop]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Xdeano,

I have the M&P.40 compact and the full size .45. Both have neither the key lock, mag disconnector, nor thumb safety.

I carry my .40 more than any of my other pistols and have had no problems whatsoever in almost 4 years. It's smaller than my compact XD .40 and <span style="font-weight: bold">damn sure thinner than my G23</span>. I think you'll be happy with yours if you make that choice. </div></div>

Shouldn't be. The Glock website calls both the G19 and the G23 at 1.18"; the S&W website describes the 9c and the 40c at 1.2".

 

[Spazz.]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

xdeano, recoil on the .40 compact is what I would call completely manageable. Neither I nor my wife (who also has an M&P 40c) have any problems getting straight back on target and pulling the trigger one round after the next. To me, the recoil on the M&P isn't as snappy as other smaller .40's I've shot, like the Sig P239 and Taurus PT140 (neither of which are mine, both to my respective dismay and elation).

boltstop, maybe it's the swelling in the M&Ps that constitute the thinness, as opposed to the "2x4" grips on the Glock. If the M&P grip swells out to 1.2", then it's thinner in other places and therefore easier for some to handle and conceal than a uniform 1.18" plank.

 

[xdeano]

Re: S&W M&P 9 compact?

Spazz,
Thanks for the info and the laugh.

xdeano