Sako TRG?
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Re: Sako TRG?
Talk to Alex or Jason at Eurooptic .com they will get you taken care of if you have any questions on a Sako Trg rifle.
Talk to Alex or Jason at Eurooptic .com they will get you taken care of if you have any questions on a Sako Trg rifle.
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Expect to pay top dollar for everything from Scope Base, Muzzle Brake, Bi-Pod, and anything else you may want for it.....
Hugo
Expect to pay top dollar for everything from Scope Base, Muzzle Brake, Bi-Pod, and anything else you may want for it.....
Hugo
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Perhaps it isn't the absolute FINEST bolt rifle out there, but it is my opinion that the TRG-22 is in fact the best VALUE in tactical/precision rifles out there right now.
As for the whole semi vs bolt argument- a bolt will be a lot easier to drive. A semi will keep up, but only with a driver absolutely on his game driving it.
Perhaps it isn't the absolute FINEST bolt rifle out there, but it is my opinion that the TRG-22 is in fact the best VALUE in tactical/precision rifles out there right now.
As for the whole semi vs bolt argument- a bolt will be a lot easier to drive. A semi will keep up, but only with a driver absolutely on his game driving it.
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The TRG is very highly regarded and usually preforms with most custom builds, the triggers on them are stellar. I'm not sure I'd say it's the standard that ALL other rifles are judged against, in the "production" category that's probably Accuracy International, and there's dozens of top quality custom makers.
The only thing that's really high priced on them is the mags and factory bipod and there are several other options for a bipod/brake setup using the harris/atlas etc. It sure would be nice to have a cheaper mag source though. I know someone has done a new bottom metal for the 308's to run on AICS mags, which if you have other platforms running AICS mags that's nice, but if you don't the cost of the adapter and mags comes out to buying 2-3 spare sako mags anyway.
You can do a warne/badger/NEAR/etc. picatinny rail if you want + rings for no more $ than any other rifle. Now with sako scope mounts easily found new for $350, that's still not much more than most guys put into a good rail and rings.
The TRG is very highly regarded and usually preforms with most custom builds, the triggers on them are stellar. I'm not sure I'd say it's the standard that ALL other rifles are judged against, in the "production" category that's probably Accuracy International, and there's dozens of top quality custom makers.
The only thing that's really high priced on them is the mags and factory bipod and there are several other options for a bipod/brake setup using the harris/atlas etc. It sure would be nice to have a cheaper mag source though. I know someone has done a new bottom metal for the 308's to run on AICS mags, which if you have other platforms running AICS mags that's nice, but if you don't the cost of the adapter and mags comes out to buying 2-3 spare sako mags anyway.
You can do a warne/badger/NEAR/etc. picatinny rail if you want + rings for no more $ than any other rifle. Now with sako scope mounts easily found new for $350, that's still not much more than most guys put into a good rail and rings.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Flynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I plan to purchase a .308 soon and am undecided whether or not to go semi-auto or bolt. As far as bolts go, is the Sako TRG 22 the cat's meow and/or the rifle all others are compared against? </div></div>
I started with the Savage in Mcmillan stock, then 2 5R's one in a AICS 2 and Jewell trigger, one DPMS .308 with RRA two stage trigger, then a Lawton 7000 Law enforcement rifle in an AICS 1.5 with Huber two stage trigger. All those have come and gone in the last 3 years.
I am now the proud owner of a Sako TRG22 and have sold off my Rem 700 stuff, for me it is all about the stock and trigger. Save yourself some headache and get the TRG.
SScott
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Flynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I plan to purchase a .308 soon and am undecided whether or not to go semi-auto or bolt. As far as bolts go, is the Sako TRG 22 the cat's meow and/or the rifle all others are compared against? </div></div>
I started with the Savage in Mcmillan stock, then 2 5R's one in a AICS 2 and Jewell trigger, one DPMS .308 with RRA two stage trigger, then a Lawton 7000 Law enforcement rifle in an AICS 1.5 with Huber two stage trigger. All those have come and gone in the last 3 years.
I am now the proud owner of a Sako TRG22 and have sold off my Rem 700 stuff, for me it is all about the stock and trigger. Save yourself some headache and get the TRG.
SScott
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Well,
I've got a TRG-42, and I can honestly say that it's 1/4-1/2 MOA out of the box.
The great thing about it is that you can get all sorts of extras for it, and you don't need anyone to make them for you.
Near Manufacturing can set you up with REALLY good scope bases and a picatinny rail for the receiver... that INCLUDES the recoil lugs.
The Near scope rings (called the "alpha mount") are designed for 34mm scopes, and are a single piece... reducing scope movement / lash during firing. (So a SB or Premier, etc...)
Then both Near Manufacturing and Roedale Precision make EXCELLENT muzzle breaks that will reduce almost ALL of the recoil for the TRG. In my case, I'm shooting a 300WM, and the recoil is compatible to an AR-15. I have both of them. The Near does blow 45 degrees to the side... which stirs up dust. The Roedale one does not...
http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/zub_sonst.htm
http://www.nearmfg.com/products.htm
The Sako parts to stay away from:
- The bi-pod pretty much sucks. It's nice and low slung, but it's very loose. Some people add a bushing to it, which seems to help.
- Sako scope mount, not really worth it. You'll pay through the nose and there are better options.
- US Optics Sako base.... just stay away.
- Sako muzzle break, is ok, but no where near as nice as the competing products.
Parts that are useful:
- Accu-Shot makes the Atlas Bipod, which will eventually come with a Sako TRG mount. For the moment, you can purchase the lower rail kit and use a rail mounted version.
http://www.accu-shot.com/atlas_bipod.html
Forend Accessory Rail:
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/ctgy/sako-TRG-accessories
- Accu-Shot makes a monopod for the rear of your stock that will allow you to stabilize the rear with granular adjustments using the BT-13 monopod and a custom TRG mount.
http://www.site-secure.biz/accushot/catalog/index.php?cPath=21
- The mirage strap is helpful if you shoot while the rifle is hot/hot.
- A spare magazine is useful, and TRG mags are made to allow you to have the bullets seated far enough out so that you are only a few thousands from the lands/grooves. (nice)
- Tripod is fun...
http://www.phoenixtactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=95
Well,
I've got a TRG-42, and I can honestly say that it's 1/4-1/2 MOA out of the box.
The great thing about it is that you can get all sorts of extras for it, and you don't need anyone to make them for you.
Near Manufacturing can set you up with REALLY good scope bases and a picatinny rail for the receiver... that INCLUDES the recoil lugs.
The Near scope rings (called the "alpha mount") are designed for 34mm scopes, and are a single piece... reducing scope movement / lash during firing. (So a SB or Premier, etc...)
Then both Near Manufacturing and Roedale Precision make EXCELLENT muzzle breaks that will reduce almost ALL of the recoil for the TRG. In my case, I'm shooting a 300WM, and the recoil is compatible to an AR-15. I have both of them. The Near does blow 45 degrees to the side... which stirs up dust. The Roedale one does not...
http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/zub_sonst.htm
http://www.nearmfg.com/products.htm
The Sako parts to stay away from:
- The bi-pod pretty much sucks. It's nice and low slung, but it's very loose. Some people add a bushing to it, which seems to help.
- Sako scope mount, not really worth it. You'll pay through the nose and there are better options.
- US Optics Sako base.... just stay away.
- Sako muzzle break, is ok, but no where near as nice as the competing products.
Parts that are useful:
- Accu-Shot makes the Atlas Bipod, which will eventually come with a Sako TRG mount. For the moment, you can purchase the lower rail kit and use a rail mounted version.
http://www.accu-shot.com/atlas_bipod.html
Forend Accessory Rail:
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/ctgy/sako-TRG-accessories
- Accu-Shot makes a monopod for the rear of your stock that will allow you to stabilize the rear with granular adjustments using the BT-13 monopod and a custom TRG mount.
http://www.site-secure.biz/accushot/catalog/index.php?cPath=21
- The mirage strap is helpful if you shoot while the rifle is hot/hot.
- A spare magazine is useful, and TRG mags are made to allow you to have the bullets seated far enough out so that you are only a few thousands from the lands/grooves. (nice)
- Tripod is fun...
http://www.phoenixtactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=95
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I've owned two TRG42 rifles (300 WM & 338LM) but no TRG22. I do have a shooting buddy that has the TRG22 and I can tell you it doesn't give up anything to the custom builds.
I did not sell my two because I didn't like them. I sold the 338LM because I had no really long range to enjoy it. The 300 WM I got in a trade and then I traded it for a REAPER in 308.
Well, to make a long story longer, I would say go for the TRG22 and Alex is the man you need to talk to.
I've owned two TRG42 rifles (300 WM & 338LM) but no TRG22. I do have a shooting buddy that has the TRG22 and I can tell you it doesn't give up anything to the custom builds.
I did not sell my two because I didn't like them. I sold the 338LM because I had no really long range to enjoy it. The 300 WM I got in a trade and then I traded it for a REAPER in 308.
Well, to make a long story longer, I would say go for the TRG22 and Alex is the man you need to talk to.
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I agree with GBMaryland on 90% of his post, except for his take on the Sako bipod. Yes it is loose, but it designed to be that way. The pivot point is above the barrel, so the rifle wants to swing downward, to the center, making it stable. This is in contrast to a standard bipod, in which the pivot point is below the rifle, and the rifle wants to lean either right or left. For an easy comparison of the stability, loosen a harris or atlas mounted on a rifle and place it on the ground. Now push it gently, and it it will fall over easily. Try this with the Sako bipod, and you will notice that it will not fall over unless you push it with much more force. I think it is the best bipod for that rifle, and it shoots great too.
I agree with GBMaryland on 90% of his post, except for his take on the Sako bipod. Yes it is loose, but it designed to be that way. The pivot point is above the barrel, so the rifle wants to swing downward, to the center, making it stable. This is in contrast to a standard bipod, in which the pivot point is below the rifle, and the rifle wants to lean either right or left. For an easy comparison of the stability, loosen a harris or atlas mounted on a rifle and place it on the ground. Now push it gently, and it it will fall over easily. Try this with the Sako bipod, and you will notice that it will not fall over unless you push it with much more force. I think it is the best bipod for that rifle, and it shoots great too.
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I have a TRG 22 also and won't be selling it anytime soon, It is one of the rifles I always take to the range. Easily 1/2 MOA all day long everyday all the way to 1000yds.
I have a TRG 22 also and won't be selling it anytime soon, It is one of the rifles I always take to the range. Easily 1/2 MOA all day long everyday all the way to 1000yds.
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Before you drop your cash for a new TRG-22, try to shoot someones first. Then try an AI platform.
I spent the bucks for a fully rigged out TRG-22/Sako brake/Sako bipod/IOR 6-24x56 etc. Never really liked the feel or got it to shoot small groups like I expected. I just did not like the weight or feel of the setup, so I never got comfortable with it.
Switched to the AICS platform and it just fits my shooting style so much better. Less felt recoil and much smaller groups. It's a blast to shoot.
It all depends on what feels good and fits you. No one can tell you what will work the best....you will have to find out for yourself. Trial and error can be expensive! The good thing is you can recover almost 90% of your investment if you decide to sell the TRG & accessories later!
Before you drop your cash for a new TRG-22, try to shoot someones first. Then try an AI platform.
I spent the bucks for a fully rigged out TRG-22/Sako brake/Sako bipod/IOR 6-24x56 etc. Never really liked the feel or got it to shoot small groups like I expected. I just did not like the weight or feel of the setup, so I never got comfortable with it.
Switched to the AICS platform and it just fits my shooting style so much better. Less felt recoil and much smaller groups. It's a blast to shoot.
It all depends on what feels good and fits you. No one can tell you what will work the best....you will have to find out for yourself. Trial and error can be expensive! The good thing is you can recover almost 90% of your investment if you decide to sell the TRG & accessories later!
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I'm not totally dissing the bipod, but it's very expensive... The tripod was cheaper.... And works better...
I forgot to mention: the Near scope rails come in a variety of moa elevations... 10, 20, 25.
I'm not totally dissing the bipod, but it's very expensive... The tripod was cheaper.... And works better...
I forgot to mention: the Near scope rails come in a variety of moa elevations... 10, 20, 25.
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As I will buying one of these in 2 months I have to tag this thread. Great info here fellas and thanks for posting all the links!
I've been able to hold and AICS and a Sako TRG 22. The TRG just fits me better. I realize shooting them is a must but my buddy already has the AICS so I'm going with the TRG for the reason of being able to re-coop most of my $$ if I want to sell it.
As I will buying one of these in 2 months I have to tag this thread. Great info here fellas and thanks for posting all the links!
I've been able to hold and AICS and a Sako TRG 22. The TRG just fits me better. I realize shooting them is a must but my buddy already has the AICS so I'm going with the TRG for the reason of being able to re-coop most of my $$ if I want to sell it.
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I bought a Sako TRG and bought just about everything to go with it except the TRG scope mount. It didn't cost me as much as I thought and I am glad I did. I really like the Bipod alot and glad I got it. The brake came free for buying the TRG with a bipod and it was a nice addition as well. I like everything about the rifle. It fits me perfectly and I like how the mag is flush into the stock. I am on the fence on getting a trg-42 in .338 Lapua but funds are kind of low this time of year so we will see...
I bought a Sako TRG and bought just about everything to go with it except the TRG scope mount. It didn't cost me as much as I thought and I am glad I did. I really like the Bipod alot and glad I got it. The brake came free for buying the TRG with a bipod and it was a nice addition as well. I like everything about the rifle. It fits me perfectly and I like how the mag is flush into the stock. I am on the fence on getting a trg-42 in .338 Lapua but funds are kind of low this time of year so we will see...
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I like the feel of the TRG stock but most of my rifles are in AICS and anything else feels strange now.
Maybe one of these days I'll buy an AIAW...... in 243!
I like the feel of the TRG stock but most of my rifles are in AICS and anything else feels strange now.
Maybe one of these days I'll buy an AIAW...... in 243!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigBore56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Before you drop your cash for a new TRG-22, try to shoot someones first. Then try an AI platform.
I spent the bucks for a fully rigged out TRG-22/Sako brake/Sako bipod/IOR 6-24x56 etc. Never really liked the feel or got it to shoot small groups like I expected. I just did not like the weight or feel of the setup, so I never got comfortable with it.
Switched to the AICS platform and it just fits my shooting style so much better. Less felt recoil and much smaller groups. It's a blast to shoot.
It all depends on what feels good and fits you. No one can tell you what will work the best....you will have to find out for yourself. Trial and error can be expensive! The good thing is you can recover almost 90% of your investment if you decide to sell the TRG & accessories later! </div></div>
Im the opposite, had an AI, couldnt really get comfy, tried a mates TRG22 and went straight out and bought 1. Awesome accuracy, trigger, stock, feel, IMHO a better rifle for me than the AI. Accessories are a little pricy but so what, buy once buy well. Had mine 4 years now and it has shot everything, from cheap assed factory to my handloads with great results. It isnt oal or bullet fussy and I have never had anyy issue with mine. If it isnt shooting 1/2 moa thats me being crap. Go buy you will enjoy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigBore56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Before you drop your cash for a new TRG-22, try to shoot someones first. Then try an AI platform.
I spent the bucks for a fully rigged out TRG-22/Sako brake/Sako bipod/IOR 6-24x56 etc. Never really liked the feel or got it to shoot small groups like I expected. I just did not like the weight or feel of the setup, so I never got comfortable with it.
Switched to the AICS platform and it just fits my shooting style so much better. Less felt recoil and much smaller groups. It's a blast to shoot.
It all depends on what feels good and fits you. No one can tell you what will work the best....you will have to find out for yourself. Trial and error can be expensive! The good thing is you can recover almost 90% of your investment if you decide to sell the TRG & accessories later! </div></div>
Im the opposite, had an AI, couldnt really get comfy, tried a mates TRG22 and went straight out and bought 1. Awesome accuracy, trigger, stock, feel, IMHO a better rifle for me than the AI. Accessories are a little pricy but so what, buy once buy well. Had mine 4 years now and it has shot everything, from cheap assed factory to my handloads with great results. It isnt oal or bullet fussy and I have never had anyy issue with mine. If it isnt shooting 1/2 moa thats me being crap. Go buy you will enjoy.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Near Manufacturing can set you up with REALLY good scope bases and a picatinny rail for the receiver... that INCLUDES the recoil lugs.</div></div>
The Sako 3-ring mount has an indexing recoil lug - that isn't exclusive to the Near Alpha.
The other thing about the 3-ring is that it allows more mounting options if you have a scope
that doesn't have a lot of tube real estate. The Near indexes and you have what you have.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Near scope rings (called the "alpha mount") are designed for 34mm scopes, and are a single piece... reducing scope movement / lash during firing. (So a SB or Premier, etc...)
Then both Near Manufacturing and Roedale Precision make EXCELLENT muzzle breaks that will reduce almost ALL of the recoil for the TRG. In my case, I'm shooting a 300WM, and the recoil is compatible to an AR-15. I have both of them. The Near does blow 45 degrees to the side... which stirs up dust. The Roedale one does not...
http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/zub_sonst.htm
http://www.nearmfg.com/products.htm</div></div>
While it's true that Near and Roedale make great parts, neither of those parts that you
mentioned do their respective job <span style="font-style: italic">so noticeably better </span>than their Sako counterpart that
there is any blatant reason to get them over the factory stuff <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">unless</span></span> you're paying Sako
retail or buying for looks. Shop for hell sakes - I get Sako parts on the cheap all the time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Sako parts to stay away from:
- The bi-pod pretty much sucks.</div></div>
Really? How? Because you're about to say more good than bad about it below this after
you bashed it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="color: #FF0000">It's nice</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(+1 good)</span> and <span style="color: #FF0000">low slung</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(+1 good)</span>, but <span style="color: #666666">it's very loose</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(ambiguous, but +1 for bad)</span>. Some people add a bushing to it, which seems to help.</div></div>
So, not really that sucky - by my count and your writing, good won out by one point.
Simply apply slight forward pressure and you don't need a bushing or a different bipod.
Really, the only negatives about the factory bipod are that, like factory magazines,
they're rare and therefore expensive even in the secondary market. The other negative
is that Sako changed the bipod design a bit ago and so now only the early models are
wide and low.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
- Sako scope mount, not really worth it. You'll pay through the nose and there are better options.
</div></div>
Again, very debatable because you didn't mention a SPHUR mount.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
- US Optics Sako base.... just stay away.
- Sako muzzle break, is ok, but no where near as nice as the competing products.</div></div>
Quantify that statement. Have you used the Sako brake and found it to suck ass in comparison?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Parts that are useful:
- Accu-Shot makes the Atlas Bipod, which will eventually come with a Sako TRG mount. For the moment, you can purchase the lower rail kit and use a rail mounted version.</div></div>
Accu-shot makes great kit - this is true, but your timeline may be a bit askew.
I have been waiting for this part to materialize as well. The email I got last week or so
regarding the TRG mount didn't seem like it indicated that it was coming "soon" as
it had run into some issues.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
- The mirage strap is helpful if you shoot while the rifle is hot/hot.</div></div>
And the factory Sako parts (brake and 3-ring mount) have the integral mounts for using one.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Near Manufacturing can set you up with REALLY good scope bases and a picatinny rail for the receiver... that INCLUDES the recoil lugs.</div></div>
The Sako 3-ring mount has an indexing recoil lug - that isn't exclusive to the Near Alpha.
The other thing about the 3-ring is that it allows more mounting options if you have a scope
that doesn't have a lot of tube real estate. The Near indexes and you have what you have.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Near scope rings (called the "alpha mount") are designed for 34mm scopes, and are a single piece... reducing scope movement / lash during firing. (So a SB or Premier, etc...)
Then both Near Manufacturing and Roedale Precision make EXCELLENT muzzle breaks that will reduce almost ALL of the recoil for the TRG. In my case, I'm shooting a 300WM, and the recoil is compatible to an AR-15. I have both of them. The Near does blow 45 degrees to the side... which stirs up dust. The Roedale one does not...
http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/zub_sonst.htm
http://www.nearmfg.com/products.htm</div></div>
While it's true that Near and Roedale make great parts, neither of those parts that you
mentioned do their respective job <span style="font-style: italic">so noticeably better </span>than their Sako counterpart that
there is any blatant reason to get them over the factory stuff <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">unless</span></span> you're paying Sako
retail or buying for looks. Shop for hell sakes - I get Sako parts on the cheap all the time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Sako parts to stay away from:
- The bi-pod pretty much sucks.</div></div>
Really? How? Because you're about to say more good than bad about it below this after
you bashed it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="color: #FF0000">It's nice</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(+1 good)</span> and <span style="color: #FF0000">low slung</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(+1 good)</span>, but <span style="color: #666666">it's very loose</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(ambiguous, but +1 for bad)</span>. Some people add a bushing to it, which seems to help.</div></div>
So, not really that sucky - by my count and your writing, good won out by one point.
Simply apply slight forward pressure and you don't need a bushing or a different bipod.
Really, the only negatives about the factory bipod are that, like factory magazines,
they're rare and therefore expensive even in the secondary market. The other negative
is that Sako changed the bipod design a bit ago and so now only the early models are
wide and low.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
- Sako scope mount, not really worth it. You'll pay through the nose and there are better options.
</div></div>
Again, very debatable because you didn't mention a SPHUR mount.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
- US Optics Sako base.... just stay away.
- Sako muzzle break, is ok, but no where near as nice as the competing products.</div></div>
Quantify that statement. Have you used the Sako brake and found it to suck ass in comparison?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Parts that are useful:
- Accu-Shot makes the Atlas Bipod, which will eventually come with a Sako TRG mount. For the moment, you can purchase the lower rail kit and use a rail mounted version.</div></div>
Accu-shot makes great kit - this is true, but your timeline may be a bit askew.
I have been waiting for this part to materialize as well. The email I got last week or so
regarding the TRG mount didn't seem like it indicated that it was coming "soon" as
it had run into some issues.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GBMaryland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
- The mirage strap is helpful if you shoot while the rifle is hot/hot.</div></div>
And the factory Sako parts (brake and 3-ring mount) have the integral mounts for using one.
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As far as the bi-pod being very loose, back off the locknut, tighten the socket head screw to your satisfaction, tighten locknut. Actually takes less time than complaining about it.
I actually have more of the Sako line than any other bolt guns,
.308 Tika Lite, .308 Tika Tactical, .308 TRG22, .338 Lapua TRG42, all top of the line for their intended purpose.
As far as the bi-pod being very loose, back off the locknut, tighten the socket head screw to your satisfaction, tighten locknut. Actually takes less time than complaining about it.
I actually have more of the Sako line than any other bolt guns,
.308 Tika Lite, .308 Tika Tactical, .308 TRG22, .338 Lapua TRG42, all top of the line for their intended purpose.
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The sako bipod is a great design. Yes it is pricey, but I just picked one up from tj general store for $400. Which is cheaper than the atlas when you figure the bottom pic rail from sako is $200, the atlas is $250 and the trg adapter when ever its ready with probably be $50. I think they are selling the older design cheap because everyone wants the newer bipod that fits around the 3 rail forehand. Personally I like the older design because it is wider and lower
The sako bipod is a great design. Yes it is pricey, but I just picked one up from tj general store for $400. Which is cheaper than the atlas when you figure the bottom pic rail from sako is $200, the atlas is $250 and the trg adapter when ever its ready with probably be $50. I think they are selling the older design cheap because everyone wants the newer bipod that fits around the 3 rail forehand. Personally I like the older design because it is wider and lower
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I have sold all my other rifles after getting my TRG22 because I just dont want to shoot them any more!
I have sold all my other rifles after getting my TRG22 because I just dont want to shoot them any more!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NY700</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The sako bipod is a great design. Yes it is pricey, but I just picked one up from tj general store for $400. Which is cheaper than the atlas when you figure the bottom pic rail from sako is $200, the atlas is $250 and the trg adapter when ever its ready with probably be $50. I think they are selling the older design cheap because everyone wants the newer bipod that fits around the 3 rail forehand. Personally I like the older design because it is wider and lower </div></div>
If you can get the TRG-22/42 biopod for $400.00, it's probably worth it in relative terms.
When you start moving into list price range ($615)... I'm not sure it's quite the deal. It really depends what you like. Though I wouldn't mind getting a hold of the older / wider one.
Personally, I don't see why you shouldn't try all three! -grin-
In so far as the Near plug... I'm really not joking when I say that aside from Sako, Near is by far the best accessory company I've seen. Their rail is something else, and frankly, it's heavier and nicer than the Sako rail/scope base. If I were putting it on a 338, I'd rather have the Near metal.
While both are not cheap, Near is incredibly well made. ...and I've tried: US Optics, Warne, Badger, Sako, and Near bases on my TRG. (It shoots so well I kept changing optics, and I picked up many of these used.)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NY700</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The sako bipod is a great design. Yes it is pricey, but I just picked one up from tj general store for $400. Which is cheaper than the atlas when you figure the bottom pic rail from sako is $200, the atlas is $250 and the trg adapter when ever its ready with probably be $50. I think they are selling the older design cheap because everyone wants the newer bipod that fits around the 3 rail forehand. Personally I like the older design because it is wider and lower </div></div>
If you can get the TRG-22/42 biopod for $400.00, it's probably worth it in relative terms.
When you start moving into list price range ($615)... I'm not sure it's quite the deal. It really depends what you like. Though I wouldn't mind getting a hold of the older / wider one.
Personally, I don't see why you shouldn't try all three! -grin-
In so far as the Near plug... I'm really not joking when I say that aside from Sako, Near is by far the best accessory company I've seen. Their rail is something else, and frankly, it's heavier and nicer than the Sako rail/scope base. If I were putting it on a 338, I'd rather have the Near metal.
While both are not cheap, Near is incredibly well made. ...and I've tried: US Optics, Warne, Badger, Sako, and Near bases on my TRG. (It shoots so well I kept changing optics, and I picked up many of these used.)
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And the factory Sako parts (brake and 3-ring mount) have the integral mounts for using one.
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All you have to do is tell Near you want that feature, and they'll do it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And the factory Sako parts (brake and 3-ring mount) have the integral mounts for using one.
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All you have to do is tell Near you want that feature, and they'll do it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps it isn't the absolute FINEST bolt rifle out there, but it is my opinion that the TRG-22 is in fact the best VALUE in tactical/precision rifles out there right now.
As for the whole semi vs bolt argument- a bolt will be a lot easier to drive. A semi will keep up, but only with a driver absolutely on his game driving it. </div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps it isn't the absolute FINEST bolt rifle out there, but it is my opinion that the TRG-22 is in fact the best VALUE in tactical/precision rifles out there right now.
As for the whole semi vs bolt argument- a bolt will be a lot easier to drive. A semi will keep up, but only with a driver absolutely on his game driving it. </div></div>
+1
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palmik, I agree with your summation however the "loosen" part of your post is a distinction not to lost in making your point. The two non-Sako bipods mentioned can be loosened and conversely tightened, where the Sako cannot.
dtask, The lesson we learned from the AI Spigot was the FACT most shooters of the AI had never held or shot their AI using the AI bipod so they have no reference point as to the tolerance/slop/play found between the bipod and stock. So we had to conclude the same would be true with the TRG and scrapped initial plans/prototypes and came into it from another approach. The CATIA models will be finished up this week and in the shop for prototyping ASAP. Cost yet to be determined.
NY700, I never thought I'd be pointing out the Atlas is cheaper than another bipod! The basic BT10 two screw clamp-on Atlas is still 219.95, our BT28 AFAR rail kit gets a Picatinny rail on your TRG accessory rail at 34.95. You can even upgrade to the lever mount Atlas BT10-LW17 for 279.95 which is still under the 400.00 mark.
Last, let me be clear, the AI and Sako bipods are both great bipods it is an honor for the Atlas to be considered with these.
palmik, I agree with your summation however the "loosen" part of your post is a distinction not to lost in making your point. The two non-Sako bipods mentioned can be loosened and conversely tightened, where the Sako cannot.
dtask, The lesson we learned from the AI Spigot was the FACT most shooters of the AI had never held or shot their AI using the AI bipod so they have no reference point as to the tolerance/slop/play found between the bipod and stock. So we had to conclude the same would be true with the TRG and scrapped initial plans/prototypes and came into it from another approach. The CATIA models will be finished up this week and in the shop for prototyping ASAP. Cost yet to be determined.
NY700, I never thought I'd be pointing out the Atlas is cheaper than another bipod! The basic BT10 two screw clamp-on Atlas is still 219.95, our BT28 AFAR rail kit gets a Picatinny rail on your TRG accessory rail at 34.95. You can even upgrade to the lever mount Atlas BT10-LW17 for 279.95 which is still under the 400.00 mark.
Last, let me be clear, the AI and Sako bipods are both great bipods it is an honor for the Atlas to be considered with these.
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Kasey, I was pointing out the difference in the inherent fundamental engineering of a low pivot point vs. a high pivot point. I mentioned loosening of the bipods to exploit the natural tendency of a rifle to tip while balancing on top of a bipod, rather than underneath one. This doesn't mean there are any flaws in the design of a bottom mounting bipod. My argument was more of a credit to the Sako bipod, not a discredit to a standard one.
Kasey, I was pointing out the difference in the inherent fundamental engineering of a low pivot point vs. a high pivot point. I mentioned loosening of the bipods to exploit the natural tendency of a rifle to tip while balancing on top of a bipod, rather than underneath one. This doesn't mean there are any flaws in the design of a bottom mounting bipod. My argument was more of a credit to the Sako bipod, not a discredit to a standard one.
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palmik, yes I understood that and your point is well made. I was attempting to note the addition of the means to add tension helps to offset the difference found in the two positions you accurately described.
The gain in what I'll term "un-attended stability" when the center line of the barrel is moved closer to the apex of the bipod should be accepted as fact. And I use the term "un-attended stability" as that is he only time I can see any bipod design allowing the rifle to fall over un-intentionally, other than the failure of the bipod itself.
And to that point of the relationship of the barrel to the apex of the bipod, there are many a rifle out there that have a bipod under the stock that shoot quite well. So while the debate will carry on, I doubt I have the skill set to determine the difference between the two locations.
palmik, yes I understood that and your point is well made. I was attempting to note the addition of the means to add tension helps to offset the difference found in the two positions you accurately described.
The gain in what I'll term "un-attended stability" when the center line of the barrel is moved closer to the apex of the bipod should be accepted as fact. And I use the term "un-attended stability" as that is he only time I can see any bipod design allowing the rifle to fall over un-intentionally, other than the failure of the bipod itself.
And to that point of the relationship of the barrel to the apex of the bipod, there are many a rifle out there that have a bipod under the stock that shoot quite well. So while the debate will carry on, I doubt I have the skill set to determine the difference between the two locations.
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Kasey is a standup guy, he makes excellent products. I have 2 Atlas v8 bipods currently, have had 3 v7's in the past, and had to sell a v8 to be able to sell the rifle it was on (buyer wouldn't take it without me giving up the bipod.) So it goes without saying that I love Atlas v8 bipods.
That being said, I think that the Sako bipod is the best bipod available for that rifle.
Kasey is a standup guy, he makes excellent products. I have 2 Atlas v8 bipods currently, have had 3 v7's in the past, and had to sell a v8 to be able to sell the rifle it was on (buyer wouldn't take it without me giving up the bipod.) So it goes without saying that I love Atlas v8 bipods.
That being said, I think that the Sako bipod is the best bipod available for that rifle.
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There are more and more accessories being produced for the Sako.
The extras for the Sako are worth it IMO! I have a couple of Harris bipods as well as an M60 bipod for my Serbu but I have to say I like the Sako better.
The bipod and muzzle break are great kit! You have the options of the Spuhr mount, Sako or other.
I would say my only complaint is the cost of magazines but Massoud is working on this.
Other then that the flexibility of the stock and its overall comfort, the phenominal trigger, excellent accuracy, smoothness of the action and ease of function all make it a great package IMO. I think the Sako TRG's are well thought out and excellent functioning rifles.
I can tell you that I do not plan on getting rid of my TRG-22, ever.
There are more and more accessories being produced for the Sako.
The extras for the Sako are worth it IMO! I have a couple of Harris bipods as well as an M60 bipod for my Serbu but I have to say I like the Sako better.
The bipod and muzzle break are great kit! You have the options of the Spuhr mount, Sako or other.
I would say my only complaint is the cost of magazines but Massoud is working on this.
Other then that the flexibility of the stock and its overall comfort, the phenominal trigger, excellent accuracy, smoothness of the action and ease of function all make it a great package IMO. I think the Sako TRG's are well thought out and excellent functioning rifles.
I can tell you that I do not plan on getting rid of my TRG-22, ever.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kasey is a standup guy, he makes excellent products. I have 2 Atlas v8 bipods currently, have had 3 v7's in the past, and had to sell a v8 to be able to sell the rifle it was on (buyer wouldn't take it without me giving up the bipod.) So it goes without saying that I love Atlas v8 bipods.
That being said, I think that the Sako bipod is the best bipod available for that rifle.</div></div>
I forgot to mention that I too have 3 atlas bipods, and I am also a big fan of them. I think that the atlas adapter for the sako will definitely be something to check out. But I also think that the sako bipod is hard to beat for the TRG.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kasey is a standup guy, he makes excellent products. I have 2 Atlas v8 bipods currently, have had 3 v7's in the past, and had to sell a v8 to be able to sell the rifle it was on (buyer wouldn't take it without me giving up the bipod.) So it goes without saying that I love Atlas v8 bipods.
That being said, I think that the Sako bipod is the best bipod available for that rifle.</div></div>
I forgot to mention that I too have 3 atlas bipods, and I am also a big fan of them. I think that the atlas adapter for the sako will definitely be something to check out. But I also think that the sako bipod is hard to beat for the TRG.
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We've been really impressed by the Sphur mounts, in fact we plan to carry some in the future.
The Sako bipods are good in some respects. We have seen several of the old style break, but the new ones are more robust. We'll have a QD bipod mount out later this year that slides in like a TRG bipod. It will take non Sako bipods. Kasey, we should make our systems compatible.
As for magazines, we have our AICS conversion for the 22, later we will have it for the 42 as well, and again later this year we'll have the folding stock available (it's the next project) that will fit both TRG's.
Between us, Kasey at Accushot, Sphur, Elite Iron, and a couple others, hopefully we can develop a broad aftermarket.
Justin
We've been really impressed by the Sphur mounts, in fact we plan to carry some in the future.
The Sako bipods are good in some respects. We have seen several of the old style break, but the new ones are more robust. We'll have a QD bipod mount out later this year that slides in like a TRG bipod. It will take non Sako bipods. Kasey, we should make our systems compatible.
As for magazines, we have our AICS conversion for the 22, later we will have it for the 42 as well, and again later this year we'll have the folding stock available (it's the next project) that will fit both TRG's.
Between us, Kasey at Accushot, Sphur, Elite Iron, and a couple others, hopefully we can develop a broad aftermarket.
Justin
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Sounds like nice stuff you have coming down the pipe Justin. I really like sako's folding stock, but there is a line that I have to draw in terms of cost. Looking forward to seeing your folding stock in action.
Sounds like nice stuff you have coming down the pipe Justin. I really like sako's folding stock, but there is a line that I have to draw in terms of cost. Looking forward to seeing your folding stock in action.
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The GA Precision and Surgeon rifles with the McMillan stocks offer a more expensive and arguably better rifle than the Sako TRG. Especially since you can get almost any caliber from them. Sako TRG's are limited to 308 (soon to be 260), 300 WM and 338 LM. Google those custom rifle makers and take a look at what they have. And if you don't see what you want, they will make just about anything. Takes a while though. But yes, Sako TRG 22 is good to go out of the box.
The GA Precision and Surgeon rifles with the McMillan stocks offer a more expensive and arguably better rifle than the Sako TRG. Especially since you can get almost any caliber from them. Sako TRG's are limited to 308 (soon to be 260), 300 WM and 338 LM. Google those custom rifle makers and take a look at what they have. And if you don't see what you want, they will make just about anything. Takes a while though. But yes, Sako TRG 22 is good to go out of the box.
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Sure you want the TRG 22? The action length is a factor.
Ever think you might want to switchbarrel? The Magnum receiver 42 can be outfitted with 3 different factory bolt-bodies. No other manufacturer will sell OTC bolt-bodies to customers. Want to shoot .338 Lapua and .300win or .30-06, .308, .6.5-284, .284 or 6.5x55? Then, you want a TRG42.
Buy the .338L if you ever might want a .590 boltface cartridge. Lazzeroni Patriot and .338Norma based ctgs are also options for you then. For about $300 ea you can buy the 12mm and 13mm bolt-bodies, whereas the 13.5mm bolt-body is about $400 and often out of stock...
Committed to a mild .30? Think about the .30-284. The .284 ctg and 6.5x55 bodies feed almost perfectly from unaltered .300win magazines. Get better ballistic performance from the .30-284 and long barrel life. Same with the 6.5 Swedish. Might even want to try a .338-284, 6.5x55AI, or a .338win. Chamber and throat your custom barrel to your intended bullet and WOW!
Best trigger, superb access to firing pin with 5sec time to field strip. Great accessories. Most aftermarket scope rails will not be full receiver length. I've owned the QD sako 3 optilock ring mount, a Warne Picatinny rail, and the Full-length Sako. Sold the QD optilock... So many tactical longrange scopes are long-bodied and thick through the the turret housing, you may find you need the full-length pic rail and Sako is worth the money.
Sure you want the TRG 22? The action length is a factor.
Ever think you might want to switchbarrel? The Magnum receiver 42 can be outfitted with 3 different factory bolt-bodies. No other manufacturer will sell OTC bolt-bodies to customers. Want to shoot .338 Lapua and .300win or .30-06, .308, .6.5-284, .284 or 6.5x55? Then, you want a TRG42.
Buy the .338L if you ever might want a .590 boltface cartridge. Lazzeroni Patriot and .338Norma based ctgs are also options for you then. For about $300 ea you can buy the 12mm and 13mm bolt-bodies, whereas the 13.5mm bolt-body is about $400 and often out of stock...
Committed to a mild .30? Think about the .30-284. The .284 ctg and 6.5x55 bodies feed almost perfectly from unaltered .300win magazines. Get better ballistic performance from the .30-284 and long barrel life. Same with the 6.5 Swedish. Might even want to try a .338-284, 6.5x55AI, or a .338win. Chamber and throat your custom barrel to your intended bullet and WOW!
Best trigger, superb access to firing pin with 5sec time to field strip. Great accessories. Most aftermarket scope rails will not be full receiver length. I've owned the QD sako 3 optilock ring mount, a Warne Picatinny rail, and the Full-length Sako. Sold the QD optilock... So many tactical longrange scopes are long-bodied and thick through the the turret housing, you may find you need the full-length pic rail and Sako is worth the money.
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Palmik, my POC at Sako, that helped me get my TRG could tell you I have said the same thing about their bipod! But after we hit a threshold number of requests (7), we have to build it right?
Massoud, that's easy, put a Pic rail on it or a mating surface like the 17S size lever mounts require and our BT10-NC will mount right up. If you are thinking something else, call. And just to be clear, we'll have our TRG Spigot design models into the shop tomorrow for prototyping. Nothing sexy just vanilla.
BTW are you the guy that did the invasion stripe stock I saw at Marty's booth?
Palmik, my POC at Sako, that helped me get my TRG could tell you I have said the same thing about their bipod! But after we hit a threshold number of requests (7), we have to build it right?
Massoud, that's easy, put a Pic rail on it or a mating surface like the 17S size lever mounts require and our BT10-NC will mount right up. If you are thinking something else, call. And just to be clear, we'll have our TRG Spigot design models into the shop tomorrow for prototyping. Nothing sexy just vanilla.
BTW are you the guy that did the invasion stripe stock I saw at Marty's booth?
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The TRG is a great rifle. Accessories are always brought up as an issue, so here are my thoughts. Whether you go the full custom route, Sako, AI, whatever you are going to incur cost. They will all shoot as well, and probably inside, of what the driver is capable.
If you are thinking of dropping 3 grand on a rifle and are worried about accessories, you probable shouldn't be dropping 3 grand on a rifle. Yeah, there are options outside of Sako factory stuff with the exception of the magazine and I do use some of them. At the same time, proficiency with the weapon is predicated on range time and good training. These costs will far outpace the slight disparity in start up cost over the rifle's service life.
Don't get me wrong about this, my TRG rides on a Harris bipod while waiting for the ATLAS spigot. Due to the delays, the Sako bipod is looking better and better. I also get a bit of savings based on reloading.
Bottom line - if the TRG fits better than the AI, get it. If you are sweating the small stuff like accessories wait a bit and save your money.
Josh
The TRG is a great rifle. Accessories are always brought up as an issue, so here are my thoughts. Whether you go the full custom route, Sako, AI, whatever you are going to incur cost. They will all shoot as well, and probably inside, of what the driver is capable.
If you are thinking of dropping 3 grand on a rifle and are worried about accessories, you probable shouldn't be dropping 3 grand on a rifle. Yeah, there are options outside of Sako factory stuff with the exception of the magazine and I do use some of them. At the same time, proficiency with the weapon is predicated on range time and good training. These costs will far outpace the slight disparity in start up cost over the rifle's service life.
Don't get me wrong about this, my TRG rides on a Harris bipod while waiting for the ATLAS spigot. Due to the delays, the Sako bipod is looking better and better. I also get a bit of savings based on reloading.
Bottom line - if the TRG fits better than the AI, get it. If you are sweating the small stuff like accessories wait a bit and save your money.
Josh
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the Sakos out there, why hasn't anyone offered replacement or aftermarket magazines for $75 per like AI? </div></div>
I've talked to JBWIII about having Morta Mags made. He knows there is a need, but he is trying to recoup costs from the initial AI run.
As for projos...168s are definitely not the sweet spot for any 308. Go with either the 175s or 155s. I have also heard that Bergers in the 185 variety work well although I have not personally shot them. 168s do weird things out past 800.
Josh
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With all the Sakos out there, why hasn't anyone offered replacement or aftermarket magazines for $75 per like AI? </div></div>
I've talked to JBWIII about having Morta Mags made. He knows there is a need, but he is trying to recoup costs from the initial AI run.
As for projos...168s are definitely not the sweet spot for any 308. Go with either the 175s or 155s. I have also heard that Bergers in the 185 variety work well although I have not personally shot them. 168s do weird things out past 800.
Josh
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Now that we have totally hijacked the original post, I just wanted to add my .02cents.
I have already requested information on the an adapter from Atlas, as well as sent an E-mail to Near MFG.concerning it. My end game would be to create a way to use my Atlas bipod on the TRG utilizing it's foreward spigot. Guys this doesn't look like rocket science to me, I think one could make an standard spigot adaptor that you would permantly mount into the stock, the stock would need to be milled a little and an access hole through the bottom would need to be made to unlatch it, then use the existing AI spigot, which has already been updated with the tension screw.
Sound like a plan? Feel free to contact me for prototype testing.
SScott
Now that we have totally hijacked the original post, I just wanted to add my .02cents.
I have already requested information on the an adapter from Atlas, as well as sent an E-mail to Near MFG.concerning it. My end game would be to create a way to use my Atlas bipod on the TRG utilizing it's foreward spigot. Guys this doesn't look like rocket science to me, I think one could make an standard spigot adaptor that you would permantly mount into the stock, the stock would need to be milled a little and an access hole through the bottom would need to be made to unlatch it, then use the existing AI spigot, which has already been updated with the tension screw.
Sound like a plan? Feel free to contact me for prototype testing.
SScott
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So you wanna buy the baby TRG , well thats ok. I have the TRG 42 in 338LM and yes it is in my opinion better than most customs and i think most builders use this rifle in 338 for comparison... afetr all its built by the MOTHER of the 338LM
So you wanna buy the baby TRG , well thats ok. I have the TRG 42 in 338LM and yes it is in my opinion better than most customs and i think most builders use this rifle in 338 for comparison... afetr all its built by the MOTHER of the 338LM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBsteel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you TRG 22 (.308) guys running through them? How do 168 grain SMKs perform? What powders are you finding that works the best? </div></div>
For Fclass TR I use a 155gr scenar over 46.2 gr ot Vit 140, giving 2950 out of my TRG22. Superb accurate load. For general shooting and plinking I use either 168 or 175 gr SMK's whatever is avialable at that time, both loaded to about 2700 fps, bit less for the 175gr load. All shoot half moa.
I have used only Vit 140 and Varget through my TRG but have had superb results with both. I have tried lots of heads and found 155gr scenars and the 168/175gr SMK's the best.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBsteel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you TRG 22 (.308) guys running through them? How do 168 grain SMKs perform? What powders are you finding that works the best? </div></div>
For Fclass TR I use a 155gr scenar over 46.2 gr ot Vit 140, giving 2950 out of my TRG22. Superb accurate load. For general shooting and plinking I use either 168 or 175 gr SMK's whatever is avialable at that time, both loaded to about 2700 fps, bit less for the 175gr load. All shoot half moa.
I have used only Vit 140 and Varget through my TRG but have had superb results with both. I have tried lots of heads and found 155gr scenars and the 168/175gr SMK's the best.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DUB DEE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">afetr all its built by the MOTHER of the 338LM </div></div>How so? From what I know, the .338 Lapua magnum cartridge was finished as a joint venture between Nammo Lapua, and Malcolm Cooper. Malcolm Cooper's company was Accuracy International, not Sako.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DUB DEE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">afetr all its built by the MOTHER of the 338LM </div></div>How so? From what I know, the .338 Lapua magnum cartridge was finished as a joint venture between Nammo Lapua, and Malcolm Cooper. Malcolm Cooper's company was Accuracy International, not Sako.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sunnyside Scott</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now that we have totally hijacked the original post, I just wanted to add my .02cents.
I have already requested information on the an adapter from Atlas, as well as sent an E-mail to Near MFG.concerning it. My end game would be to create a way to use my Atlas bipod on the TRG utilizing it's foreward spigot. Guys this doesn't look like rocket science to me, I think one could make an standard spigot adaptor that you would permantly mount into the stock, the stock would need to be milled a little and an access hole through the bottom would need to be made to unlatch it, then use the existing AI spigot, which has already been updated with the tension screw.
Sound like a plan? Feel free to contact me for prototype testing.
SScott
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Good job Sunnyside! I think you have a winner there!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sunnyside Scott</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now that we have totally hijacked the original post, I just wanted to add my .02cents.
I have already requested information on the an adapter from Atlas, as well as sent an E-mail to Near MFG.concerning it. My end game would be to create a way to use my Atlas bipod on the TRG utilizing it's foreward spigot. Guys this doesn't look like rocket science to me, I think one could make an standard spigot adaptor that you would permantly mount into the stock, the stock would need to be milled a little and an access hole through the bottom would need to be made to unlatch it, then use the existing AI spigot, which has already been updated with the tension screw.
Sound like a plan? Feel free to contact me for prototype testing.
SScott
Good job Sunnyside! I think you have a winner there!
Re: Sako TRG?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3PER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sako TRG plus Near Manufacturing scope mount and brake plus Sako Bipod is the Cat's MEOW. But that's just my opinion
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Obviously, I agree.
Richard Near simply does GREAT work. There isn't a TRG part that they make that is not outstanding. ...and frankly, though the factory parts aren't bad, Near has been better with everything I've purchased so far. (I have both the Sako parts and the Near versions.)
Hell, they even made me a 10 MOA rail for my Model 70 Winchester Super Express Safari in 375 H&H Magnum. Flawless.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3PER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sako TRG plus Near Manufacturing scope mount and brake plus Sako Bipod is the Cat's MEOW. But that's just my opinion
Obviously, I agree.
Richard Near simply does GREAT work. There isn't a TRG part that they make that is not outstanding. ...and frankly, though the factory parts aren't bad, Near has been better with everything I've purchased so far. (I have both the Sako parts and the Near versions.)
Hell, they even made me a 10 MOA rail for my Model 70 Winchester Super Express Safari in 375 H&H Magnum. Flawless.
Re: Sako TRG?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hugo121175</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Expect to pay top dollar for everything from Scope Base, Muzzle Brake, Bi-Pod, and anything else you may want for it.....
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Yeah, if you stick to Sako factory parts and pay full retail. But you have to remember that you get a whole lot of rifle for the money. A sweet sub MOA 338 LM for less than 3k. Compare that to the price of a barebones AI.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hugo121175</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Expect to pay top dollar for everything from Scope Base, Muzzle Brake, Bi-Pod, and anything else you may want for it.....
Hugo</div></div>
Yeah, if you stick to Sako factory parts and pay full retail. But you have to remember that you get a whole lot of rifle for the money. A sweet sub MOA 338 LM for less than 3k. Compare that to the price of a barebones AI.
