Savage Action Question??

[jpmuscle]

Thinking about putting together another .308 and short of picking up a used action assembly It would be a waste of money to purchase a new 10fp just for the action If I dont have to.

For that reason are the lower model savages (Axis etc) utilizing the same actions as the higher end 10FP models? (target series and the like not included). DBM isnt a huge concern im planning on a McRee or XLR chassis and something other than the factory trigger anyway.


In either case I have no use for the factory barrel and stock but spending under 300 is better than spending 600+ just to get the action if one doesnt come along used.


john

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Savage Action Question??

the Axis/Edge rifles are NOT the same action.... but there's good news, the Stevens 200 is

 

[jpmuscle]

Re: Savage Action Question??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the Axis/Edge rifles are NOT the same action.... but there's good news, the Stevens 200 is </div></div>


Good news, that works for me. The stevens were included by the "etc".



Last time around I just bought one of the 10FPs with the HS stock. This time I want to do things differently, I always had a desire to do a .308 on a 110 action for some reason.

 

[Swift]

Re: Savage Action Question??

The Axis has some goofy integrated recoil lug setup which causes compatibility issues but the Stevens are GTG. Comb the used racks at some local shops. Found my first Savage 308 on the used rack for $349.

 

[jpmuscle]

Re: Savage Action Question??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Axis has some goofy integrated recoil lug setup which causes compatibility issues but the Stevens are GTG. Comb the used racks at some local shops. Found my first Savage 308 on the used rack for $349. </div></div>

Figures the always have to screw up a good thing. Buds has a few long actions in stock none of which are. 308s or 300wm so a bolt head swap would be in order, but price wise their in the 320s shipped. Pitty the don't put the stevens guns on buds police supply.


I find the option of doing a switch barrel intriguing hence the desire for the 110. But the first time around I want to a shorter barrel .308. Target contour fluted 18.5" or so and surefire brake .

 

[Jointshooters]

Re: Savage Action Question??

My 260 build was originally on a long staggerfeed 110 action...it worked VERY well, I just eventually decided to go a different route. You can probably find long action Stevens 200 or Savage 110 rifles on a pawn or gun shop used rack in the $200 ballpark.

CDI also has two DBM bottom metal choices for the Savage long action; one for LA cartridges based on the 300WM AICS mag or a DBM that will feed SA 308 magazines.

You can also buy a Stevens 200 short action from Jim Briggs/Northland Shooters Supply for $235 + shipping, or a 10/11 Accutrigger action for $325 + shipping.

Best part about Savages, IMO, is you can do 95% of gunsmithing duties in your basement or garage with minimal tooling, which can save you a fair bit of $$$ over a R700 while producing equal or better accuracy.

 

[jpmuscle]

Re: Savage Action Question??

I like the DIY aspect but to be honest if I had the fundings id pick up the phone to gap and just order a complete barreled action and be done with it. THe XLR and Mcree stocks are as about DIY as you can get since id rather for go the bedding requirments of most stocks BUT since budgets are a reality the savage lets me progress as I see fit.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Savage Action Question??

If my info is still current, the Stevens 200 action uses the pre-Accue-Trigger fire control mechanism, and is configured to use the newer (front and rear both curved receiver contact surface) scope bases.

If your requirements do not include magazine feeding, consider one of their target grade 'action only' options. A bit more pricey than the Stevens, but very well made for an accuracy build's special needs, and nothing extra provided beyond what's needed for a donor action.

Lothar-Walther offers excellent Savage drop-in match grade barrels at reasonable cost. Their barrel taper exactly dupicates the Savage Varmint taper, making the barreled action compatible with any Savage-ready stock, except for the target actions accuracy-improved bolt spacing.

Greg

 

[jpmuscle]

Re: Savage Action Question??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If my info is still current, the Stevens 200 action uses the pre-Accue-Trigger fire control mechanism, and is configured to use the newer (front and rear both curved receiver contact surface) scope bases.

If your requirements do not include magazine feeding, consider one of their target grade 'action only' options. A bit more pricey than the Stevens, but very well made for an accuracy build's special needs, and nothing extra provided beyond what's needed for a donor action.

Lothar-Walther offers excellent Savage drop-in match grade barrels at reasonable cost. Their barrel taper exactly dupicates the Savage Varmint taper, making the barreled action compatible with any Savage-ready stock, except for the target actions accuracy-improved bolt spacing.

Greg </div></div>

Greg,

I looked at those actions as a possible option but ultimately i decided a single shot rifle is of really no practical use to me, at least in this application. I want a more practial all around gun hence the preference towards the shorter barrel.

Ill look at LW barrels as you suggest, Ive had good luck with Sharps shooters supply in the past and looking at their site quick they seem to have good prices on their Douglas and Brux barrels but I dont recall if their stainless or not.


Thanks,

john

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Savage Action Question??

John, if you're wanting a LA, drunkhumpinmonkey on here has a stevens 200 in 270 for sale, the 270 will have the .473 bolthead you're looking for.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Savage Action Question??

Savage used to offer repeater actions alongside their target actions, but stopped listing them some time back. I strongly suspect a properly angled phone call to their custom shop might pry one loose from them. In any case, it never hurts to ask.

The Savage product line is constantly changing, and their site and catalogue both make frequent references to calling if you don't see what you want. They may be able to put yout dream together in their custom shop. This is especilly likely if the required parts are already in the system. Catalogued models represent marketing experience; but in essence, less popular ideas can still be made to fly if the parts can be found.


For example, the 112BVSS .308 is no longer listed, but the parts for it, or a .30-'06, are in the system.

For example, the 110 Predator Hunter Max I is only listed with the 6.5-284 chambering, but a rechambering to .30-'06 is a one-for-one parts swap using off-the shelf components.

For example, the 10FCM Scout has a listing for 7.62x39 chambering, and I'd like one just that way. But a standard scope base can be used for an upgrade, and that bolt face would work quite well with PPC chambered swap barrels.

Now I can't tell you that Savage will agree to stuff like this; but I repeat, it never hurts to ask.

Greg

 

[jsthntn247]

Re: Savage Action Question??

If I was going to do this all over again. I would definitely go the short action rout with a stevens action. Right now there are allot of stocks out there for short actions that don't require a 5 month wait like the long actions to. If you are going to do a rebarrel, check out stockade or northland shooters they will atleast answer the phone when you call unlike sharp shooters.

 

[jpmuscle]

Re: Savage Action Question??

Greg,


Good info, ill give them a call about the actions and see what they can do out of the custom shop. That would work out well if they could piece together a short stick.

Jst,

Ill check out northland, as far as stocks go given the progress made in aluminum chassis I haunt had the opportunity to run one yet and I really want to 10wksa for an xlr is doable. If this guns ready for deer season here in december great if not my 30/30 lever gun will see more action.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Savage Action Question??

I would be interested in knowing how your inquiries are received at Savage. I suspect I will be making similar ones before the year is out, and it might be helpful to know what temperature these waters be.

Greg

 

[jpmuscle]

Re: Savage Action Question??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would be interested in knowing how your inquiries are received at Savage. I suspect I will be making similar ones before the year is out, and it might be helpful to know what temperature these waters be.

Greg </div></div>



Greg,

Call to savage yet but ill give them a shout before the week is out. Do you have a link to their custom shop online? Im not seeing anything on their website.

I did speak to gap however regarding Savage rifles, and they do work on them from time to time and offer all of which I was interested in. Price wise they are about the same as their Remmy services. Timeline was about what I figured 4-6 months for the rebarrel with them supplying the barrel (Bartlein preferred), plus action trueing, brake install etc. Which is fine by me since that would put me in the tail end of winter here.


I Initially was set on the XLR Mcree style chassis but im leaning more towards the manners T5A or T2A as its just more appealing. I still have to call manners and inquire if their going to offer their DBM chassis insert for savages anytime in the future. I feel that would be the ticket since I can avoid all the bedding issues. If not a CDI DBM is leading the list.

Also given the choice of stocks ill have to stick with the regular 10 SA as to maintain the DBM option. oh well, gives me an excuse to build another rifle. Per CDIs website he offers bottom metal for the 110s but im not sure if its for the savage 110 rifles already utilizing a factory DBM and mags. Ill have to call.

 

[Short-bus]

Re: Savage Action Question??

I didn't read through the whole thread so hopefully this hasn't already been said. You can buy the actions only from Northland shooters supply. You can find them over on SavageShooters.com in the forums. I just checked, they right now have listed stevens 200 long actions fro $235.

Branden