Re: SCAR 17S vs M1A
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: madppcs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">TacticaltshirtsREP my running from the rain comment was to point out that these 2 rifles are worlds apart. The M14 is a GREAT rifle that does a lot of things good. It was designed to keep you alive in every worse condition. It doesn't have (ergonomics) or modern materials because they built this rifle before any of that was around. And its STILL very much actively serving on front lines worldwide alongside its long time partner M16.
I'm in no way saying a Scar is a good or bad weapon. I don't own one, and don't have an interest in one. In my opinion, is a Scar THAT much different than a M4/Ar15? What's the first thing that's done to these 2 I just listed? Hang every fork,knife,light,canteen on it just to shoot the same caliber round. 556.
Simply put, these rifles are total opposites. If comparing the same caliber (308) I don't think the recipient of the bullet or steel plate will say (damn I wishi would have been shot by that other rifle) </div></div>
We are in agreement then. I am not a SCAR fan-boy by any means. I do own one and am testing it. A 16. It has potential. We'll see how it holds up.
The point I make about the SCAR is the same as yours, it is light-years different than the M1A. It is my informed opinion that people who spend any amount of time in CQB or clearing structures would not choose a M1A over anything. That's a huge difference. Since most people on here wouldn't run a rifle beyond 300-400 yards anyway.
If you want a 7.62 but want the ability to also run it in a CQB roll, the SCAR has serious potential.
The super accurate SCAR doesn't exist yet. Just because a 7.62 platform is made doesn't mean it can run across the course at Perry. It simply can't keep up. But in a LE Sniper role or DM, it works very well. But we'll see if the platform survives and matures. I am old enough to remember when the M-16/AR never was seriously looked at across the course. The M9 either for that matter. Now look how times have changed!
If I speak the truth about the SCAR, I also speak the truth about AR and M1A. The AR in M4 format and the AR in OBR format, might as well be two different rifles. They are very different and aren't interchangeable tools for the job at hand.
The M1A in sniper or DM format is quite mature and successful. Nobody argues that. The M1A in the the assault-rifle role has all kinds of problems. But if you say that, the M1A fans take it as an affront to their egos.
As someone who carries rifles over long distances and extended periods, I do have a weight bias. The only thing I ever hang on my rifles are Red-Dots (T1) and a light (current scout light but looking hard at the Surefire x300/400). I'll even remove or cut unused 1913 rails off my rifles to save weight. With that bias in mind, the SCAR rifles in 5.56 and 7.62 have serious potential. Also I find the piston system of the SCAR and maintenance schedule much nicer than my ARs. So far. Something MIGHT go wrong or change and I dump the whole system. And I won't hold back about it.
I have a reputation for kicking firearms makers in the ball-sack if they deserve it.
Happy New Year,
TTR