Looking at either a Seekins Havak Bravo or buying a Big Horn Origin, prefit barrel, trigger tech trigger and a bravo chassis. I’d like a manners stock but don’t want the extra cost at the moment, and my built up .22 has a bravo and it’s comfortable. Will I notice a difference spending the extra for the Big Horn build? Accuracy, smoothness etc. Any preference on prefits? It’ll be used for playing around at my range mainly.
Seekins vs origin
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I'd go Origin here if you can swing it. The Seekins I have used have a heavier bolt lift and aren't nearly as smooth as an Origin. An Origin in a Bravo with a good barrel is a winning combination that won't leave you wanting. Prefits are going to favor the Origin also.
Before I got a Gen 2 Seekins bolt I would have agreed, but the new one is much better. That said, my last two rifle builds were Origin/Proof prefits... it's just too easy to get what you want with the satisfaction of doing it yourself. I feel like you wouldn't be sad with either.
I have both a gen1 seekins and an origin/proof. The origin is much more refined. I do enjoy the seekins but it's just not as smooth. They'll send you prefit as well but the oddball action wrenches are very hard to find.
The Christensen Arms Ridgeline is also a CF barrel, and comes factory with a CF stock, and 2.5 lbs. TriggerTech trigger. Just throwing that out there as another option. It's super light weight. 
Well I ordered a origin action, osprey barrel, trigger tech trigger and bravo chassis
I have parts on hand to make a lot of things, including both stainless and carbon wrapped blanks. Our prefits win national matches, there's nothing left wanting for accuracy and I've been doing Origin prefits since before the action was announced to the market. I made the test barrels for the proof loading. It's one of my core products in the prefit market.
We have Timney triggers, self timing brakes in stainless, black and the ultralight forms, stainless barrels in any contour you want from 22/6/25/6.5/6.8/7mm/30 etc.
The selection of stocks on hand is sparse but I have everything else. We can get you taken care of quickly.
I see that you have already made your purchase (and agree that it looks like a good setup) but as nice as the origin setup is- I see nothing in it that would justify the increased price over the Havak....
Not sure what makes the origin a "superior action" as posted above... both have the option to change bolt faces- both are produced to standards that you can purchase shouldered prefits. One is controlled feed and the other is push feed but that is neither here or there. I also think that a integrated lug is a plus..... By the time you purchase everything separate you spend more - especially once you add in little things like threading and cerakote of the barrel.
With the Origin you can build it exactly how you want- but if you are going to build it exactly like the havak bravo comes then not seeing the upside-- but just my .02.
Not sure what makes the origin a "superior action" as posted above... both have the option to change bolt faces- both are produced to standards that you can purchase shouldered prefits. One is controlled feed and the other is push feed but that is neither here or there. I also think that a integrated lug is a plus..... By the time you purchase everything separate you spend more - especially once you add in little things like threading and cerakote of the barrel.
With the Origin you can build it exactly how you want- but if you are going to build it exactly like the havak bravo comes then not seeing the upside-- but just my .02.
^ Hence the reason I said "both" have the option--
Never said a bad thing about the origin- said not seeing what makes it "superior" as was mentioned above.
Never said a bad thing about the origin- said not seeing what makes it "superior" as was mentioned above.
If it's as easily swapped then the only pro for the Origin would be the large amount of shouldered prefits available from many companies. Seekins makes nice products as I have used them since 2005 but being able to make what you want from the start is a big pro in my book. There is not a huge price difference when put together. I broke it down for him on his post at AR15.com
Origin- $900
Prefit- $450-650
Trigger- $150-200
Stock- KRG Bravo at $360
Total- High end $2110, Low end $1860
Origin- $900
Prefit- $450-650
Trigger- $150-200
Stock- KRG Bravo at $360
Total- High end $2110, Low end $1860
Dont forget action wrench and barrel vice, it adds around 150 to the total.
And then it sits on the table and makes you order another action and prefit.
You would need that for either if you are talking about the Seekins being able to take prefits also. And you wouldn't need another action, just barrels.
I already have all the tools to assemble everything. Including lathe and mill if I decided to shorten and rethread the barrel. And the stuff to cerakote. Have to cerakote my .223 barrel I just threaded so I’ll wait for it till this stuff shows up. Main reason I spent the extra, when I built up my Cz.22 I really wanted a vudoo but decided not to spend the extra. Still wish I would of just spent the extra
